Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
We hear this about a quarterback every year. Not saying you're wrong, but it seems like every draft I'm hearing about a generational qb who ends up being mediocre as hell.
I don't agree with you here at all. The "generational" is definitely a trope, and we hear it all the time. For example, it's thrown around like candy with running backs. But quarterbacks? No way, it's used a lot less frequently.
Here are QBs drafted in the top 10 since 2012:
2019
Kyler Murray
Daniel Jones
2018
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Allen
2017
Mitch Tribusky
2016
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
2015
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
2014
Blakes Bortles
2013
(None - EJ Manual at #15 was the highest)
2012
Andrew Luck
RG3
With the exception of Luck, I don't remember
any of these guys being labeled a "generational" talent, so I can't get on board with you saying "we hear this about a quarterback every year".
I mean, yeah, I'm sure if you dig deep enough you can find a couple analysts or scouts that love a player and call him generational, but to find a guy who is considered a
consensus generational talent is pretty uncommon - at least for a quarterback.
Like, look at Kyler Murray: some people loved him (Cards GM/coach - they did indeed use the word "generational" to describe him), but others thought he was more of a late first-round talent. The evaluation of him was volatile and all over the place. Compare that to Andrew Luck - tracking down a dissenting opinion on him was hard to find. Luck is, imo, the last guy the majority agreed was a can't-miss prospect, and that was about 9 years ago now. Or, put it this way: nobody would bat an eyelash if the Cardinals had drafted Andrew Luck a year after taking Rosen, but going with Murray was highly controversial and opinions were all over the place on it.
I do think that Lawrence is definitely the best QB prospect since Luck. I'm basing that on both the hype surrounding him, but he also passes the eye test for me; the guy was the first true freshman to win a title in over 30 years, and he was absolutely slinging it out there against Alabama.