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Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

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Fields seems to be really the 2017 Watson of this Draft.
There was a lost of questions about Watson ´s ability to play under center and go through progressions. He was also criticized for being a little bit slow to process and having to play in a offense where most of the time he had the field cut in half.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Nice little mashup of Fields under pressure in the 2020 season:


Thanks for this. It's hard to see if he's holding onto the ball too long without seeing the all-22. I will say I don't know who the hell thinks that OL was good this yr

I thought there was some great play moving around and extending, more than likely holding onto the ball too long, and some great accuracy off structure.

you get Kyle scheming up plays with Fields and the rest of the league is in trouble. Like Danny Kelly from the ringer says (Seattle fan too) for the love of god the NFL can't let Kyle get a top QB talent

Watching this made me want Fields even more.

Same.
Originally posted by cortana49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Nice little mashup of Fields under pressure in the 2020 season:


Thanks for this. It's hard to see if he's holding onto the ball too long without seeing the all-22. I will say I don't know who the hell thinks that OL was good this yr

I thought there was some great play moving around and extending, more than likely holding onto the ball too long, and some great accuracy off structure.

you get Kyle scheming up plays with Fields and the rest of the league is in trouble. Like Danny Kelly from the ringer says (Seattle fan too) for the love of god the NFL can't let Kyle get a top QB talent

Watching this made me want Fields even more.

Same.

Right?! If that's the knock on him doing terrible under pressure then sign me up for it lol
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Here's what I don't understand. A lot of posters are telling us how great Kyle could be with Jones and I'm not discounting that, but wouldn't that same logic apply to Fields as well or is he some dumbass that can't be coached?
Now add in what Kyle said, they basically want to sit the rookie and develop him as properly as possible. Imo that makes even more sense for Fields/Lance's potential since nobody is arguing they have the higher ceiling vs Jones.

I will say that one thing none of these QBS are dumb or lazy (out of the top 5)
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by cortana49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Nice little mashup of Fields under pressure in the 2020 season:


Thanks for this. It's hard to see if he's holding onto the ball too long without seeing the all-22. I will say I don't know who the hell thinks that OL was good this yr

I thought there was some great play moving around and extending, more than likely holding onto the ball too long, and some great accuracy off structure.

you get Kyle scheming up plays with Fields and the rest of the league is in trouble. Like Danny Kelly from the ringer says (Seattle fan too) for the love of god the NFL can't let Kyle get a top QB talent

Watching this made me want Fields even more.

Same.

Right?! If that's the knock on him doing terrible under pressure then sign me up for it lol

i do think thats an issue but i think the biggest knock on him for me (coming into SF) is he ahsnt been asked to do pre snap reads and his post snap recognition is the worst out of the top 5 qbs
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by cortana49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Nice little mashup of Fields under pressure in the 2020 season:


Thanks for this. It's hard to see if he's holding onto the ball too long without seeing the all-22. I will say I don't know who the hell thinks that OL was good this yr

I thought there was some great play moving around and extending, more than likely holding onto the ball too long, and some great accuracy off structure.

you get Kyle scheming up plays with Fields and the rest of the league is in trouble. Like Danny Kelly from the ringer says (Seattle fan too) for the love of god the NFL can't let Kyle get a top QB talent

Watching this made me want Fields even more.

Same.

Right?! If that's the knock on him doing terrible under pressure then sign me up for it lol

i do think thats an issue but i think the biggest knock on him for me (coming into SF) is he ahsnt been asked to do pre snap reads and his post snap recognition is the worst out of the top 5 qbs

Mac Jones gets too much credit for this. How hard is it to read the defense if 80% of your plays are screens and both of your two 2 receivers are always open?
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Here's what I don't understand. A lot of posters are telling us how great Kyle could be with Jones and I'm not discounting that, but wouldn't that same logic apply to Fields as well or is he some dumbass that can't be coached?
Now add in what Kyle said, they basically want to sit the rookie and develop him as properly as possible. Imo that makes even more sense for Fields/Lance's potential since nobody is arguing they have the higher ceiling vs Jones.

I believe Jones would do better if he starts day 1. But considering Jimmy G is still aound as the bridge, Fields is a better option to develop since his ceiling is much higuer.
After numerous connected dots, I finally found the confirmation Fields is the pick.

Fields of Jeans at Levi's
Originally posted by Scratch:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Why I like Lance best:



When Lance fails to see a guy, it's usually (to what I've seen) because his eyes are glued downfield. I'm not seeing lots of touchdowns left on the field with Lance.

I do see some concerns; like Lance will see the target, and then dance around because he wants a better passing lane. But I think that's easier to coach out of him than this issue for Fields.

Unless this is just scheme, and Fields was supposed to completely ignore the wide open touchdown on the corner here.

That is a terrible play to evaluate him "ignoring a wide open touchdown." The center gets pushed back 5 yards into his face just before he becomes wide open. Fields actually gets through his progressions here. He looks towards his left first and the corner closest to the sideline has yet to break towards the LOS.That is the corner who blew the coverage. In Fields' defense, that may have been designed to be his first read. He wasn't open when he first looked at him. There isn't enough time to go back to that read by the time he becomes wide open because of the pressure in his face.

That isn't me. That's J. T. O'Sullivan, Ph. D, who for some reason, despite being among the best there is at this, having a doctorate, and playing in professional football for almost 10 years, is "garbage."

Source:


Side note: the ball should have been thrown the second the corner starting running down. This is a basic concept everyone from high school to the NFL runs, and most of the time, that corner and the will are who you're keying on. There was plenty of time to throw that.

Oh yeah: he ranks Fields over Jones, but of course he's wrong here because it's a criticism of Fields.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Apr 2, 2021 at 12:11 PM ]
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by Scratch:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Why I like Lance best:



When Lance fails to see a guy, it's usually (to what I've seen) because his eyes are glued downfield. I'm not seeing lots of touchdowns left on the field with Lance.

I do see some concerns; like Lance will see the target, and then dance around because he wants a better passing lane. But I think that's easier to coach out of him than this issue for Fields.

Unless this is just scheme, and Fields was supposed to completely ignore the wide open touchdown on the corner here.

That is a terrible play to evaluate him "ignoring a wide open touchdown." The center gets pushed back 5 yards into his face just before he becomes wide open. Fields actually gets through his progressions here. He looks towards his left first and the corner closest to the sideline has yet to break towards the LOS.That is the corner who blew the coverage. In Fields' defense, that may have been designed to be his first read. He wasn't open when he first looked at him. There isn't enough time to go back to that read by the time he becomes wide open because of the pressure in his face.

Let's also point out that you can find film of every QB on the planet missing a wide open receiver.

Some more than others. But they're all wrong because you don't like their analysis.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Here's what I don't understand. A lot of posters are telling us how great Kyle could be with Jones and I'm not discounting that, but wouldn't that same logic apply to Fields as well or is he some dumbass that can't be coached?
Now add in what Kyle said, they basically want to sit the rookie and develop him as properly as possible. Imo that makes even more sense for Fields/Lance's potential since nobody is arguing they have the higher ceiling vs Jones.

You forgot Lance.
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Here's what I don't understand. A lot of posters are telling us how great Kyle could be with Jones and I'm not discounting that, but wouldn't that same logic apply to Fields as well or is he some dumbass that can't be coached?
Now add in what Kyle said, they basically want to sit the rookie and develop him as properly as possible. Imo that makes even more sense for Fields/Lance's potential since nobody is arguing they have the higher ceiling vs Jones.

I will say that one thing none of these QBS are dumb or lazy (out of the top 5)

Correct. The only people thinking this argument is about intelligence are... well I don't want to get banned.
Originally posted by NCommand:
After numerous connected dots, I finally found the confirmation Fields is the pick.

Fields of Jeans at Levi's

get on that train NC!

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
After numerous connected dots, I finally found the confirmation Fields is the pick.

Fields of Jeans at Levi's

get on that train NC!

Get on
Originally posted by NCommand:
After numerous connected dots, I finally found the confirmation Fields is the pick.

Fields of Jeans at Levi's

Bro I just said that... NC you always copying me.
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