Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Originally posted by jcs:
Fields vs Jones

Justin Fields every Snap vs Alabama

Mac Jones every Snap vs Ohio St.

Mac Jones Throws
1 - high pass poor location
2 - 4 yards behind LoS Smith makes play
3 - 4 yards behind LoS Harris makes play
4 - Good 5 yard pass out route
5 - Shovel pass 2 yards Waddle makes play
6 - misses wide open Smith
7 - 3 yards behind LoS
8 - 4 yard completion lead receiver out of end zone
9 - good pass (WIDE OPEN SMITH)
10 - good pass (WIDE OPEN SMITH)
11 - good pass out route
12 - 2 yards behind LoS
13 - 1 yard behind LoS
14 - 6 yards behind LoS
15 - 1 yard behind LoS
16 - Sack Fumble
17 - good pass back shoulder great catch by Smith
18 - slant good pass
19 - scramble
20 - RB wheel easy pass
21 - Pass behind
22 - slant late throw
23 - Great pass
24 - nice pass (WIDE OPEN SMITH) and Wade is trash
25 - slant b******t PI penalty
26 - 1 yard behind LoS
27 - screen 3 yards behind LoS
28 - screen 2 yards behind LoS
29 - nice pass (SMITH WIDE OPEN)
30 - 1 yard behind LoS
31 - Angle route easy pass
32 - good pass
33 - good coverage....Wade
34 - good coverage.........Wait Wade
35 - incomplete drop shoulda been caught
36 - slant good pass
37 - good pass Great protection
38 - good pass out route 4 yards
39 - sack
40 - slant pass behind
41 - 3 yard pass
42 - throw away
43 - slant good D
44 - 1 yard pass
45 - 6 yard pass
46 - GREAT PASS! best pass of the game
47 - scramble
48 - 4 yards behind LoS
49 - nice pass (Horrible D wide open)
50 - hospital ball slant
51 - throw away

THIS IS NOT SPECIAL. and yes i copied yards behind LoS cause of how often he throws behind the LoS.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by jcs:
Fields vs Jones

Justin Fields every Snap vs Alabama

Mac Jones every Snap vs Ohio St.

Mac Jones Throws
1 - high pass poor location
2 - 4 yards behind LoS Smith makes play
3 - 4 yards behind LoS Harris makes play
4 - Good 5 yard pass out route
5 - Shovel pass 2 yards Waddle makes play
6 - misses wide open Smith
7 - 3 yards behind LoS
8 - 4 yard completion lead receiver out of end zone
9 - good pass (WIDE OPEN SMITH)
10 - good pass (WIDE OPEN SMITH)
11 - good pass out route
12 - 2 yards behind LoS
13 - 1 yard behind LoS
14 - 6 yards behind LoS
15 - 1 yard behind LoS
16 - Sack Fumble
17 - good pass back shoulder great catch by Smith
18 - slant good pass
19 - scramble
20 - RB wheel easy pass
21 - Pass behind
22 - slant late throw
23 - Great pass
24 - nice pass (WIDE OPEN SMITH) and Wade is trash
25 - slant b******t PI penalty
26 - 1 yard behind LoS
27 - screen 3 yards behind LoS
28 - screen 2 yards behind LoS
29 - nice pass (SMITH WIDE OPEN)
30 - 1 yard behind LoS
31 - Angle route easy pass
32 - good pass
33 - good coverage....Wade
34 - good coverage.........Wait Wade
35 - incomplete drop shoulda been caught
36 - slant good pass
37 - good pass Great protection
38 - good pass out route 4 yards
39 - sack
40 - slant pass behind
41 - 3 yard pass
42 - throw away
43 - slant good D
44 - 1 yard pass
45 - 6 yard pass
46 - GREAT PASS! best pass of the game
47 - scramble
48 - 4 yards behind LoS
49 - nice pass (Horrible D wide open)
50 - hospital ball slant
51 - throw away

THIS IS NOT SPECIAL. and yes i copied yards behind LoS cause of how often he throws behind the LoS.

Sounds like Jimmy G

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Sounds like Jimmy G

Jimmy woulda missed Smith when he was being covered by Borland the slow LBer

It's not Rocket science to me. When you give up that much draft capital you draft the most talented guy. Regardless of who is a better fit for the system you run. A player can learn the system. Especially someone as gifted as Fields. You can't learn athletic ability.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
It's not Rocket science to me. When you give up that much draft capital you draft the most talented guy. Regardless of who is a better fit for the system you run. A player can learn the system. Especially someone as gifted as Fields. You can't learn athletic ability.

AGREE... though I still think that Fields would have been better had he stay in school, but if we are going to pick between Fields - Lance and Mac... I gots to go with Fields..

Sorry I just wont roll the dice on a very young QB with great body and arm but only played less than 25 games ..

as for MAC, you almost have to have the perfect system for him to look as good as he did under Sarks..

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by okdkid:
"He mostly throws to his first read!"

"ok but was that guy open?"

"...yes"

"ok did he compete the pass?"

"...yes"

????

wtf are we even talking about

And when McGlinchey gets bulldozed then what? When Aaron Donald blasts through the OL then what? When Ramsey locks up his first read...then what?

cosell was just talking about Jones and for all the heady play...he can't makes plays off script. He said he's just incapable of doing it..The moment a play breaks down we're f**ked all the same...haven't we seen this movie already lol?

Yup, the movie ends with draw plays on 3rd and 10+ because defenses won't respect the play action and it is harder to scheme someone open.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
It's not Rocket science to me. When you give up that much draft capital you draft the most talented guy. Regardless of who is a better fit for the system you run. A player can learn the system. Especially someone as gifted as Fields.

...or Lance, or Wilson. I will admit it's up for grabs,...but only between those 3.

And if WIilson's gone by then,...we're down to 2.

Imagine if Russell Wilson was NOT mobile. Imagine how perfect every play would have to be. That is what you're betting on with Mac. He has to execute perfectly every play because that is his only option

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Sounds like Jimmy G

Jimmy woulda missed Smith when he was being covered by Borland the slow LBer

Last thing we need Is another mediocre QB .

No to Fields. Go with Sir Lance-alot.

This is one of my favorite plays from Fields. How many QBs see the blitzer on their periphery, drop their eyes, and frantically look to escape the pocket? Fields, however, is just chilling. Dude side steps the free rusher, climbs up into the pocket to the passing lane, and throws a seed. Fantastic job of keeping his eyes up and cleats in the ground while maintaining a balanced throwing posture.

Originally posted by Heroism:
This is one of my favorite plays from Fields. How many QBs see the blitzer on their periphery, drop their eyes, and frantically look to escape the pocket? Fields, however, is just chilling. Dude side steps the free rusher, climbs up into the pocket to the passing lane, and throws a seed. Fantastic job of keeping his eyes up and cleats in the ground while maintaining a balanced throwing posture.

I love Fields game - it's either him or Mac at #3.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by strickac:
I've been critical of Fields, but his Bama tape made me think differently. I heard DJ talking about that too at his Pro Day. In that game you get to see a little of everything from Fields. He was under pressure early and was getting bullied in the pocket. He started using his legs a little and found some room to make throws. Then, they went to the RPO and play-action and it opened things up a little more. His WRs dropped everything that game and they still moved the ball on offense.

Bama's offense was just too much for them. No one is going to put up 50 points on Bama to keep pace.

Mac on the other hand, was like a video game. Count to 5, then throw deep to a wide open WR. He's so hard to evaluate because he had Smith, Waddle or Metchie wide open half the time. His highlight videos are basically an indictment of how dominant Smith was. Couple that with the best RB in the nation standing in the backfield and it was just open season.

Mac at #3 makes my stomach hurt. A mobile QB in Kyle's offense makes me very optimistic.

I vote Fields but that doesn't mean we need to crap on Jones.

When you are good at something you make it look easy and people who are watching dont appreciate how you got from point A to point B.

Jones finds the mis matches and knows where to go pre snap. That is his QB super power.

His targets look wide open bc he is manipulating the defense to make it happen.

The most common clip is the deep bomb to Waddle v Texas A&M. If you watch film break down the reason Waddle is open is bc Jones absolutely abuses the safety with his pump fake.

Impressive. Someone watched the proper videos on the nuances of the QB position. I totally agree with your overall premise too.

Originally posted by jimrat:
The draft can't come soon enough

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by jimrat:
The draft can't come soon enough