Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
We're taking Fields. No one can convince me otherwise

I think it's Lance but totally down with Fields

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
It's one thing to just draft a guy cause of the combine like the Raiders selecting DHB. When a special athlete has film that is better than most everyone in the draft I don't understand the confusion. Like the arguement Mac stays on script.... cause he f**king has too. Do people think Fields can't stay on script. If his first read is open I guarantee he throws it.

Seriously lol. It's such a dumb debate and really not that difficult to get.

The last time you argued like this you were defending drafting Thomas.

I literally said I don't have any issues with Fields. Using his speed as a metric that can't be coached is what's dumb. I care more about his ability to read a defense and throw accurately.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
It's not Rocket science to me. When you give up that much draft capital you draft the most talented guy. Regardless of who is a better fit for the system you run. A player can learn the system. Especially someone as gifted as Fields. You can't learn athletic ability.

The Al Davis school of drafting never works. The last time we did that we drafted Taylor Mays.

I'm not against Fields but the "you can't teach 4.4 speed" argument is tired.

You're 100% right but Fields has been up there with Lawrence since being a true freshman. The kid is all about football. He's also not a runner playing QB. Dude is one of the more accurate QBs. His legs are not a concern in terms of him ignoring open passing looks. They're simply a way to extend plays that aren't blocked well or allow us to still make positive plays on plays that don't work as designed for whatever reason.

With Kyle and our talent it may not happen often but even a play or two in a game can swing the game in your favor.

Originally posted by jreff22:
The last time you argued like this you were defending drafting Thomas.

I literally said I don't have any issues with Fields. Using his speed as a metric that can't be coached is what's dumb. I care more about his ability to read a defense and throw accurately.

This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Originally posted by Jcool:
This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Nor really. Being a superior athlete translates well to defensive end. It's a very mixed bag at QB and it's why OSU is 0 for 100 so far.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
It's one thing to just draft a guy cause of the combine like the Raiders selecting DHB. When a special athlete has film that is better than most everyone in the draft I don't understand the confusion. Like the arguement Mac stays on script.... cause he f**king has too. Do people think Fields can't stay on script. If his first read is open I guarantee he throws it.

Seriously lol. It's such a dumb debate and really not that difficult to get.

The last time you argued like this you were defending drafting Thomas.

I literally said I don't have any issues with Fields. Using his speed as a metric that can't be coached is what's dumb. I care more about his ability to read a defense and throw accurately.

Really making the Thomas comparison? That's the approach you wanna take?

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Jcool:
This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Nor really. Being a superior athlete translates well to defensive end. It's a very mixed bag at QB and it's why OSU is 0 for 100 so far.

Clemson was 0 for how many before Watson?
Texas Tech was 0 for how many before Mahomes?
and on and on...

can't believe people still try to play the school game.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Jcool:
This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Nor really. Being a superior athlete translates well to defensive end. It's a very mixed bag at QB and it's why OSU is 0 for 100 so far.

Not true at all. Ohio State has had two first round quarterbacks in their history prior to Fields. One being Schlister in 1982, the other being Haskins. Neither was an athlete.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Jcool:
This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Nor really. Being a superior athlete translates well to defensive end. It's a very mixed bag at QB and it's why OSU is 0 for 100 so far.

Clemson was 0 for how many before Watson?
Texas Tech was 0 for how many before Mahomes?
and on and on...

can't believe people still try to play the school

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by jreff22:
The last time you argued like this you were defending drafting Thomas.

I literally said I don't have any issues with Fields. Using his speed as a metric that can't be coached is what's dumb. I care more about his ability to read a defense and throw accurately.

This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Wall that makes sense. Thomas went through his progressions and was an excellent "processor"...

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by jreff22:
The last time you argued like this you were defending drafting Thomas.

I literally said I don't have any issues with Fields. Using his speed as a metric that can't be coached is what's dumb. I care more about his ability to read a defense and throw accurately.

This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Does anybody think Kyle will take a 40 time and use that sway his opinion? It's nice to have but I don't think it really matters to him. People keep talking about Mahomes and his athletic prowess, what I'm sure Kyle prefers is his arm strength and mental processing to make every throw from anywhere on the field.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Jcool:
This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Nor really. Being a superior athlete translates well to defensive end. It's a very mixed bag at QB and it's why OSU is 0 for 100 so far.

If we are going to by that. 49ers should not be drafting a QB at #3

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by jreff22:
The last time you argued like this you were defending drafting Thomas.

I literally said I don't have any issues with Fields. Using his speed as a metric that can't be coached is what's dumb. I care more about his ability to read a defense and throw accurately.

This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Does anybody think Kyle will take a 40 time and use that sway his opinion? It's nice to have but I don't think it really matters to him. People keep talking about Mahomes and his athletic prowess, what I'm sure Kyle prefers is his arm strength and mental processing to make every throw from anywhere on the field.

What's funny is that the people who love Fields rarely talk about how fast he is. The biggest appeal is that despite his athleticism, he's a pocket passer who just happens to have the ability to improvise and escape.

His 40 time is a little exaggerated and I dont think hes a "true" 4.4 guy, but that's irrelevant to me. What he has shown is the footwork, willingness to stay in the pocket, keep his eyes up, work through traffic and adjust.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Not true at all. Ohio State has had two first round quarterbacks in their history prior to Fields. One being Schlister in 1982, the other being Haskins. Neither was an athlete.

They've had plenty of Heisman candidates. Plenty of NFL QB prospects. None of been developed enough as a passer and that may continue with Fields as OSU qbs have it easy as f. See Haskins putting up 4700 yards then flopping in a year. Running a faster 40 doesn't fix that.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Not true at all. Ohio State has had two first round quarterbacks in their history prior to Fields. One being Schlister in 1982, the other being Haskins. Neither was an athlete.

The things people say without any actual knowledge.

OSU has never really had an elite QB prospect like Fields. Most of their guys have been very under the radar. Fields was the #2 overall player in his class.

Comparing Fields to prior OSU quarterbacks is like comparing a Ferrari to a pinto.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Jcool:
This would be like if the 49ere had the #1 pick and he was advocating Thomas over Garrett.

Nor really. Being a superior athlete translates well to defensive end. It's a very mixed bag at QB and it's why OSU is 0 for 100 so far.

If we are going to by that. 49ers should not be drafting a QB at #3

Maybe we shouldn't be. Do we try to get to 2, I still think it's in play. If this pick goes south (regardless of which we we draft) this could kill Shanny in SF. There is a lot riding on a move like this.