Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
I dont think you quite understand...
Starting at quarterback for a great team doesnt make you an NFL prospect. Nobody was ever banging the drum for Cardale Jones, Braxton Miller, Troy Smith, Terrelle Pryor or JT Barrett.
While they were excellent college quarterbacks, it was unlikely they would every amount to anything in the pros. That's like blaming Miami because Ken Dorsey was trash in the NFL.. everyone knew he didnt translate, which is why despite his college success he was a 7th round pick.
Ohio State wasnt recruiting NFL quarterback prospects until recently, and prior to that they struggled to attract them because of their play style. They went from the 3 yards and a cloud of dust to Urban Meyer's option/read attack.
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Ohio State has had 2 Heisman finalists at quarterback that I can recall, Justin Fields the last two years and Troy Smith who won it in 2006. As for NFL quarterback prospects? There have been 3... Fields, Haskins and Schlister.
Except those prospects weren't Ken Dorsey. They were today's athletic qb's with big arms. But you got to be able to pass at the next level and none of them were developed enough there.
OSU's offense is more pass friendly now with Day and Fields is a better prospect but what hasn't changed is the part about the rest of the team being superior to their competition. He may not be as far along as people think once the competition tightens. There are some red flags with him. He holds on to the ball too long, doesn't utilize checkdowns well, poor against the blitz that's stuff that any scouting report notes.
I think he should be the pick but people should prepare themselves for that he might not be Shanny's QB.
JT Barrett did not have a big arm.
Braxton Miller had a solid arm, but was small and was NEVER a quarterback prospect. He was, however, a great athlete who got drafted as a receiver.
Terrelle Pryor was dumb as a box of rocks and was an inconsistent thrower, despite that he was drafted highly in the supplemental draft as a quarterback, transitioned to receiver and actually had a couple thousand yard seasons.
Troy Smith, also small with a solid arm at best, a long windup and a serious anger issue along with other off the field issues.
Cardale Jones was VERY talented, but couldn't put it all together. I'm convinced if he went to the right team under the right mentorship he could have been a starter. But still, he was a sleeper prospect and a 3rd or 4th round pick.
Again, despite their successes, athletic ability or lack thereof... none of these guys were considered slam dunks or 1st round picks, hence, the bust title doesnt apply.