Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Originally posted by krizay:
I wonder why Indiana has his number. I guarantee he'll see blitzes and rolled coverages in the NFL.

He struggled against defenses that threw blitzes and coverage rotations — specifically, Indiana in 2020 and Clemson in the 2019 College Football Playoff semifinal. Those were the only two instances where Fields saw a blitz combined with a post-snap rotation on more than 10 dropbacks in a game in his college career, and he posted a 48.5 passing grade on such plays in those outings.

On those same plays across the entirety of the 2019 and 2020 seasons, Fields ranks second-to-last among quarterbacks on this list in PFF passing grade. And against blitzes overall, Fields has the longest time to throw among FBS quarterbacks in that span (3.08 seconds).

That is definitely one area where he gets exposed a little bit. There are a lot of factors but we don't really know the reasons. Could be coaching, could be on him, could be a combination of things.

Hopefully if we do draft him, he works on it and Shanny can mask his deficiencies there a little.

That won't be impossibly hard to do given our lethal outside zone game and our misdirection runs. That is, it should help minimize the times we're in a situation where a blitz makes a lot of sense.

If Fields can just improve his recognition though, he could just outrun a lot of them. No need to even risk a throw.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
We're going to miss out on him because of Kyle's arrogance. I can't believe this

You'd think if he was so arrogant he'd want the biggest talent showing he can coach up whenever.

I simply refused to beleive the most innovative play caller in the NFL with only draft "a system quarterback" instead of an elite talent.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by hubbyt:
I have a feeling the Jets will take Fields, leaving us with Wilson. Id rather have Fields tho. The Jets really control our fate here.

I know the Jets have a history of peeing off their fans with their draft picks, but surely not this time!?

They are bringing in our system, no way in hell they skip on Wilson.

Wilson isnt better than Fields. What good team has Wilson played against? Curious. The smoke says the Jets take Wilson but Im not buying it until it happens because Fields has always been the better prospect until recently ...if nothing else the draft is entertaining idk what will happen lol. I just hope we walk away with Mr Fields

If Kyle chooses Mac Jones, he needs to be fired.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
That won't be impossibly hard to do given our lethal outside zone game and our misdirection runs. That is, it should help minimize the times we're in a situation where a blitz makes a lot of sense.

If Fields can just improve his recognition though, he could just outrun a lot of them. No need to even risk a throw.

This is the part I keep trying to trick my mind into wanting Fields over Jones. Also the fact that we now have Mack to also help in that area.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
We're going to miss out on him because of Kyle's arrogance. I can't believe this

I know we are all a bit concerned about this. However, when you logically think about it there is no way that anyone has a clue what direction Shanny will go. He isnt going to tell his buddies such as Chris Simms or certainly anyone in the media thats for sure. At this point its just people trying to connect the dots.

I think anything could happen but I still come down to this.... would the Niners really have gone all the way up to 3 for Jones? Or, did they believe that Atlanta would grab Fields or Lance and they had to move ahead of them. Lets hope that is the case. ALL ON BOARD FOR FIELDS

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
We're going to miss out on him because of Kyle's arrogance. I can't believe this

You'd think if he was so arrogant he'd want the biggest talent showing he can coach up whenever.

I simply refused to beleive the most innovative play caller in the NFL with only draft "a system quarterback" instead of an elite talent.

This is where I'm at as well. Yes, Jones fits what Kyle has had in the past, but nobody on earth can convince me today that Jones is the better prospect than Fields or Lance. Kyle is supposed to be this unicorn of an offensive coach who can elevate QB's is his system. With that logic it's a no brainer to go with Fields or Lance over Jones. He should be tearing the league a new one with Fields under his wing.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
That won't be impossibly hard to do given our lethal outside zone game and our misdirection runs. That is, it should help minimize the times we're in a situation where a blitz makes a lot of sense.

If Fields can just improve his recognition though, he could just outrun a lot of them. No need to even risk a throw.

This is the part I keep trying to trick my mind into wanting Fields over Jones. Also the fact that we now have Mack to also help in that area.

Originally posted by krizay:
This is the part I keep trying to trick my mind into wanting Fields over Jones. Also the fact that we now have Mack to also help in that area.

What trick? It is Fields over Jones all day every day IMO. Fields is a phucking stud.

If Fields last game had been against Clemson where he totally outplayed Lawrence would there even be a doubt that he would be the pick? Actually, would it be a no brainer that he would go 2nd ahead of Wilson? He was so dynamic in that game that I believe he would have likely gone 2nd. Now the Niners have a shot to take a kid that could very well end up being the best QB in the class. Does he need work? Of course! Let him sit for a year and learn and he can be special.

Originally posted by Bluesbro:
What trick? It is Fields over Jones all day every day IMO. Fields is a phucking stud.

To you and others sure. To me, and what I look for in a QB Jones has and I would have to hope Fields learns. Or at the very least hope his better traits neutralizes it.

My fear is if he doesn't learn these traits and the offense has to change to his strength it takes away from (or could take away) from what makes Kyle k**e.

Kyle had to change his system for RGIII and then when they tried to run his system year two. It got ugly. With Jones we wouldn't have to go down that path.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
If Fields last game had been against Clemson where he totally outplayed Lawrence would there even be a doubt that he would be the pick? Actually, would it be a no brainer that he would go 2nd ahead of Wilson? He was so dynamic in that game that I believe he would have likely gone 2nd. Now the Niners have a shot to take a kid that could very well end up being the best QB in the class. Does he need work? Of course! Let him sit for a year and learn and he can be special.

A lot of experts think the Alabama game was the best of his career. He dropped due to an ignorant narrative, it had nothing to do with performance.

Originally posted by Eli_23:
If Kyle chooses Mac Jones, he needs to be fired.

Please... I'm definitely not on the Jones' train, but at a minimum you have to see if it'll work. I thought the Chargers blew it last year when they picked Herbert. I thought the Jets and Bills won the draft when they picked Darnold and Allen (got that half right).

But, if after 2 seasons it's obvious Jones is limited, and Lance and/or Fields are crushing it, then yes.

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by hubbyt:
I have a feeling the Jets will take Fields, leaving us with Wilson. Id rather have Fields tho. The Jets really control our fate here.

I know the Jets have a history of peeing off their fans with their draft picks, but surely not this time!?

They are bringing in our system, no way in hell they skip on Wilson.

Wilson isnt better than Fields. What good team has Wilson played against? Curious. The smoke says the Jets take Wilson but Im not buying it until it happens because Fields has always been the better prospect until recently ...if nothing else the draft is entertaining idk what will happen lol. I just hope we walk away with Mr Fields

Because Wilson is the prototype for what you need in a QB for this offense. Fields is fantastic, I love Fields, I hope we draft him, but if you are installing this thing fresh as opposed to moving it to the next level you want the guy the checks all the boxes for it. He looks off the safety, he changes his arm slot when called on, he is accurate and can buy time in the pocket, he throws with timing rather than waiting for the break. I like Fields for us....but for them, to be starting year one, Wilson makes too much sense. The reason I like Fields for us is we are farther along, we have the system, we have the coaches, we have the players around him, what we are after is someone who has elite traits above and beyond. We want to add an elite deep ball and some dimension of running ability. Fields can be coached up by a quality staff to get more instinctual the kid is a gamer with all the tools, but I think an inferior or raw coaching staff could ruin him.