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Originally posted by HarboutTHAT:
He literally says in the comments section of this article that fields IS NOT good at the quick passing game. Which makes up the majority of the Shannahan passing scheme...
Pic is gonna be Mac like it or not.
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
How can someone throw 67 TDs and only 2 losses in college if he can neither go past the 1st read nor throw quick passes to said 1st read? That would be super impressive. Just imagine what he could do if Shanahan coached him to improve in those areas!
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Great read
I wrote about how the question "How many times has Justin Fields thrown beyond his first read?" is a bad, boring question.
— Benjamin Solak (@BenjaminSolak) April 10, 2021
Then I answered it.
Then I tried to answer a more interesting question: "How does Fields' processing impact his NFL projection?"https://t.co/ZkHLlRPQfy
Bump
Great read. Thanks for posting.
And then the keeper element added to the wide zone runs, and the limitless goalline/redzone packages by maximizing the numbers game...
Originally posted by Heroism:
When I think about Justin Fields letting it rip into clearly defined Shanahan-designed throwing windows & matchups, it makes me tingle inside.
Originally posted by HarboutTHAT:
He literally says in the comments section of this article that fields IS NOT good at the quick passing game. Which makes up the majority of the Shannahan passing scheme...
Pic is gonna be Mac like it or not.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Heroism:
When I think about Justin Fields letting it rip into clearly defined Shanahan-designed throwing windows & matchups, it makes me tingle inside.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Heroism:
When I think about Justin Fields letting it rip into clearly defined Shanahan-designed throwing windows & matchups, it makes me tingle inside.
Originally posted by HarboutTHAT:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Great read
I wrote about how the question "How many times has Justin Fields thrown beyond his first read?" is a bad, boring question.
— Benjamin Solak (@BenjaminSolak) April 10, 2021
Then I answered it.
Then I tried to answer a more interesting question: "How does Fields' processing impact his NFL projection?"https://t.co/ZkHLlRPQfy
Bump
He literally says in the comments section of this article that fields IS NOT good at the quick passing game. Which makes up the majority of the Shannahan passing scheme...
Pic is gonna be Mac like it or not.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BSofSF:
I don't like sandlot football where the explosiveness of an offense relies upon the QB breaking containment of the pass rush long enough so that a burner shakes free downfield and the QB heaves him an 80-yard bomb. People in favor of Fields will argue that he is much more than that, that he's an accurate pocket passer, etc., but I am unconvinced. NFL radio played composite analysis of the top QB picks from multiple commentators and the knock on Fields was pretty consistent, that he holds the ball too long, is too slow to recognize what's happening and pull the trigger on a play. That sounds like a guy in the NFL who'll struggle with the speed and will fall back on his incredible athleticism, which will work for a time, until it doesn't. We've seen this movie before.
If the Niners go mobile, I'd take fields over Lance because of his big time college experience and impressive tools. I don't think he's worthy of the 3 pick. And for the record, I don't think Mac Jones is either. I think the Niners FO got high on their offseason success and overplayed their hand with this trade up without thinking through that the 3-5 QBs have issues. I do think Mac Jones will be a more successful NFL QB than Fields just because it's easier to beat defenses over the long haul with your head rather than your physical tools. If Jones is mentally elite, which is what the consensus commentators say, that can blossom into something effective for a long time. The guys who do it with their athleticism burn brightly early, but end up breaking down quicker and have shorter careers. I fully, fully appreciate those who are not happy about the draft capital we moved to get to the 3 spot, because it doesn't seem like any of the options available justify the move. I think Fields is very attractive Fool's Gold. I will support him if he's the pick. Not looking to piss off his passionate fans, but just being honest.
This is what happens when people don't do your own research and go with what they hear in the media...
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Heroism:
When I think about Justin Fields letting it rip into clearly defined Shanahan-designed throwing windows & matchups, it makes me tingle inside.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boomer49er:
SIlly argument considering if you take what he said at face value, the only thing keeping him from being good at it is coaching.
What coach thinks he would rather have less talented players because he can't coach the better ones to play in his style?
Originally posted by BSofSF:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BSofSF:
I don't like sandlot football where the explosiveness of an offense relies upon the QB breaking containment of the pass rush long enough so that a burner shakes free downfield and the QB heaves him an 80-yard bomb. People in favor of Fields will argue that he is much more than that, that he's an accurate pocket passer, etc., but I am unconvinced. NFL radio played composite analysis of the top QB picks from multiple commentators and the knock on Fields was pretty consistent, that he holds the ball too long, is too slow to recognize what's happening and pull the trigger on a play. That sounds like a guy in the NFL who'll struggle with the speed and will fall back on his incredible athleticism, which will work for a time, until it doesn't. We've seen this movie before.
If the Niners go mobile, I'd take fields over Lance because of his big time college experience and impressive tools. I don't think he's worthy of the 3 pick. And for the record, I don't think Mac Jones is either. I think the Niners FO got high on their offseason success and overplayed their hand with this trade up without thinking through that the 3-5 QBs have issues. I do think Mac Jones will be a more successful NFL QB than Fields just because it's easier to beat defenses over the long haul with your head rather than your physical tools. If Jones is mentally elite, which is what the consensus commentators say, that can blossom into something effective for a long time. The guys who do it with their athleticism burn brightly early, but end up breaking down quicker and have shorter careers. I fully, fully appreciate those who are not happy about the draft capital we moved to get to the 3 spot, because it doesn't seem like any of the options available justify the move. I think Fields is very attractive Fool's Gold. I will support him if he's the pick. Not looking to piss off his passionate fans, but just being honest.
This is what happens when people don't do your own research and go with what they hear in the media...
Yeah, right. 1. Why wouldn't you trust the opinions of people who have coached, played and drafted players at the highest level and follow the game for a living over a fan's opinion? 2. What they say on Fields is evident in his clips. He is a little slow getting the ball out and tends to hold it when he's blitzed. Jimmy has this problem too. Fields would be an improvement over Jimmy because he can make more accurate longer throws and escape pressure with his feet. But Jones seems far better getting the ball to the right target on-time, on-target, with the right amount of touch for maximum YAC. Watch Fields' snaps in the national championship game, too much velocity on crossing routes, missing the receiver on screens, or in the Indiana game when they blitzed and confused him every down and he threw three picks. Fields seems more like the style of QB that Al Davis would have loved, driving the ball deep with accuracy. But that's not really the style of Shanahan's offense. I think Jones is the better fit, but Jones is not worth a 3, and might well have been drafted at 12 without mortgaging the future.