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Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I think the Niners are cool with the media speculating on them loving Jones so that Fields is insured to be available at 3. Lowering the hype on Fields is advantageous so that the Jets don't take him.

my theory is that Kyle values Fields higher than Wilson. But I'm just an average idiot on the internet

This. Kyle knew who he was drafting the moment they started talks with MIA. Fields is the #2 QB in this draft in terms of ability and accomplishments. If Ried can work with Mahomes, then there's no reason why Kyle can't work with Fields.

Alex Smith ended up being golden for Reid/Mahomes. Let's hope Fields has someone on the team to help him develop properly.

I honestly think that guy is Nick Mullens. We will see what Jimmy does.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I honestly think that guy is Nick Mullens. We will see what Jimmy does.

Nick Mullens is a free agent and he's not coming back. The Sudfeld signing confirmed that.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
Why no second pro day for Wilson?

It's between fields and Lance and I would guess it's fields at this time.

He's New York bound baby.
Well technically, New Jersey bound baby.
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I think the Niners are cool with the media speculating on them loving Jones so that Fields is insured to be available at 3. Lowering the hype on Fields is advantageous so that the Jets don't take him.

my theory is that Kyle values Fields higher than Wilson. But I'm just an average idiot on the internet

Agreed, when they found out Wilson was going to Jets they immediately jumped to 3 so they could get Fields, who I bet is their #1 guy in this draft.
Originally posted by stanman106:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I think the Niners are cool with the media speculating on them loving Jones so that Fields is insured to be available at 3. Lowering the hype on Fields is advantageous so that the Jets don't take him.

my theory is that Kyle values Fields higher than Wilson. But I'm just an average idiot on the internet

Agreed, when they found out Wilson was going to Jets they immediately jumped to 3 so they could get Fields, who I bet is their #1 guy in this draft.

#2 I think as Lawrence is a once a decade guy but yeah I agree they have him above Wilson. It's the only reason I can think of for the Jones smoke. They're scared the jets might threaten to take Fields and force them to trade up another spot.
Originally posted by roasthawg:
#2 I think as Lawrence is a once a decade guy but yeah I agree they have him above Wilson. It's the only reason I can think of for the Jones smoke. They're scared the jets might threaten to take Fields and force them to trade up another spot.

On the other hand, Fields is the kind of QB that goes Top 3 in just about every draft class. I don't see any reason why he can't be at least as good as Kyler Murray in the NFL while not having the deficiency of being 5'10" and not being able to see passing lanes clearly from the pocket.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by roasthawg:
#2 I think as Lawrence is a once a decade guy but yeah I agree they have him above Wilson. It's the only reason I can think of for the Jones smoke. They're scared the jets might threaten to take Fields and force them to trade up another spot.

On the other hand, Fields is the kind of QB that goes Top 3 in just about every draft class. I don't see any reason why he can't be at least as good as Kyler Murray in the NFL while not having the deficiency of being 5'10" and not being able to see passing lanes clearly from the pocket.

Sure thing. I don't see a Kyler Murray comparison but more a cam newton. But yeah Fields looks to be the pick at three to me and I think he'll be great.
PFF Pros and Cons

3. JUSTIN FIELDS, OHIO STATE Biggest pro: Accuracy There has long been a puzzling divide about Fields' accuracy. While we believe it's his greatest strength, some say it's a flaw. The tape and data, however, back up that he is one of the most accurate quarterback prospects the country has seen over the past few years.

Nearly 56% of his passes over 10-plus yards over the past two years were deemed accurate, trailing only Joe Burrow and Mac Jones for the best in the Power Five. Some of it has to do with the offense he was in and the top-notch route runners around him, but that alone doesn't explain his top-three ranking. Fields pairs this sharp accuracy with legit wheels for a quarterback (the guy can run a 4.4-second 40-yard dash) and a strong arm.

Biggest con: Processing speed This con is not a permanent one, nor should it be a reason to not draft Fields No. 3 overall. He struggled against defenses that threw blitzes and coverage rotations — specifically, Indiana in 2020 and Clemson in the 2019 College Football Playoff semifinal. Those were the only two instances where Fields saw a blitz combined with a post-snap rotation on more than 10 dropbacks in a game in his college career, and he posted a 48.5 passing grade on such plays in those outings.

On those same plays across the entirety of the 2019 and 2020 seasons, Fields ranks second-to-last among quarterbacks on this list in PFF passing grade. And against blitzes overall, Fields has the longest time to throw among FBS quarterbacks in that span (3.08 seconds).

Still, we've seen far more good than bad from Fields. He's a clear-cut top-three quarterback in the 2021 NFL Draft class and one of the five best prospects PFF has ever evaluated.


https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-biggest-pro-con-top-qb-prospects
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
PFF Pros and Cons

3. JUSTIN FIELDS, OHIO STATE Biggest pro: Accuracy There has long been a puzzling divide about Fields' accuracy. While we believe it's his greatest strength, some say it's a flaw. The tape and data, however, back up that he is one of the most accurate quarterback prospects the country has seen over the past few years.

Nearly 56% of his passes over 10-plus yards over the past two years were deemed accurate, trailing only Joe Burrow and Mac Jones for the best in the Power Five. Some of it has to do with the offense he was in and the top-notch route runners around him, but that alone doesn't explain his top-three ranking. Fields pairs this sharp accuracy with legit wheels for a quarterback (the guy can run a 4.4-second 40-yard dash) and a strong arm.

Biggest con: Processing speed This con is not a permanent one, nor should it be a reason to not draft Fields No. 3 overall. He struggled against defenses that threw blitzes and coverage rotations — specifically, Indiana in 2020 and Clemson in the 2019 College Football Playoff semifinal. Those were the only two instances where Fields saw a blitz combined with a post-snap rotation on more than 10 dropbacks in a game in his college career, and he posted a 48.5 passing grade on such plays in those outings.

On those same plays across the entirety of the 2019 and 2020 seasons, Fields ranks second-to-last among quarterbacks on this list in PFF passing grade. And against blitzes overall, Fields has the longest time to throw among FBS quarterbacks in that span (3.08 seconds).

Still, we've seen far more good than bad from Fields. He's a clear-cut top-three quarterback in the 2021 NFL Draft class and one of the five best prospects PFF has ever evaluated.


https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-biggest-pro-con-top-qb-prospects

This sounds about right. With the accuracy issue, from what I've seen it's mostly really long passes that are inconsistent. The short and medium stuff is really accurate. But yeah it's definitely that processing speed that's gonna determine his level of nfl success.
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Originally posted by roasthawg:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
PFF Pros and Cons

3. JUSTIN FIELDS, OHIO STATE Biggest pro: Accuracy There has long been a puzzling divide about Fields' accuracy. While we believe it's his greatest strength, some say it's a flaw. The tape and data, however, back up that he is one of the most accurate quarterback prospects the country has seen over the past few years.

Nearly 56% of his passes over 10-plus yards over the past two years were deemed accurate, trailing only Joe Burrow and Mac Jones for the best in the Power Five. Some of it has to do with the offense he was in and the top-notch route runners around him, but that alone doesn't explain his top-three ranking. Fields pairs this sharp accuracy with legit wheels for a quarterback (the guy can run a 4.4-second 40-yard dash) and a strong arm.

Biggest con: Processing speed This con is not a permanent one, nor should it be a reason to not draft Fields No. 3 overall. He struggled against defenses that threw blitzes and coverage rotations — specifically, Indiana in 2020 and Clemson in the 2019 College Football Playoff semifinal. Those were the only two instances where Fields saw a blitz combined with a post-snap rotation on more than 10 dropbacks in a game in his college career, and he posted a 48.5 passing grade on such plays in those outings.

On those same plays across the entirety of the 2019 and 2020 seasons, Fields ranks second-to-last among quarterbacks on this list in PFF passing grade. And against blitzes overall, Fields has the longest time to throw among FBS quarterbacks in that span (3.08 seconds).

Still, we've seen far more good than bad from Fields. He's a clear-cut top-three quarterback in the 2021 NFL Draft class and one of the five best prospects PFF has ever evaluated.


https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-biggest-pro-con-top-qb-prospects

This sounds about right. With the accuracy issue, from what I've seen it's mostly really long passes that are inconsistent. The short and medium stuff is really accurate. But yeah it's definitely that processing speed that's gonna determine his level of nfl success.

Yeah, Fields has to be better at his longer targets. He's fine in the 10-15 yds. range, but has to do better with his long ball.
Amateur breakdown of the QB's but not a bad one all in all.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FegPH_NkRct2aigWtOoqtWj6843djX3Xk-WcpqpQqHQ/edit
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I honestly think that guy is Nick Mullens. We will see what Jimmy does.

Nick Mullens is a free agent and he's not coming back. The Sudfeld signing confirmed that.

I think Sudfeld is there to compete with Rosen for third spot. So the depth chart would be Jimmy, Rookie, and then Sudfeld or Rosen (likely Sudfeld).

I do think it's possible Mullens comes back but only if Jimmy is traded. But I think that's pretty possible. If they get a good offer for Jimmy, and especially if the rookie seems ready to start, I could see Mullens coming back. I could actually see him sticking around as a back up.
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
I think Sudfeld is there to compete with Rosen for third spot. So the depth chart would be Jimmy, Rookie, and then Sudfeld or Rosen (likely Sudfeld).

I do think it's possible Mullens comes back but only if Jimmy is traded. But I think that's pretty possible. If they get a good offer for Jimmy, and especially if the rookie seems ready to start, I could see Mullens coming back. I could actually see him sticking around as a back up.

I think that ship has sailed. Shanahan has talked about wanting his QB room to be guys that are all fairly similar in terms of their ability. I don't see the fit with Mullens compared to Sudfeld. Shanahan saw what everyone else saw this past season, as much as Mullens might know the offense, he's physically incapable of executing it consistently. I don't see a role for him on this roster in the future.
Originally posted by Hardcoreniner559:
i hope the jets dont take fields i think hes the number 1 qb in the draft and we would be lucky if they took wilson at 2 qnd not fields

My concern is why isn't Urban Meyer thinking of drafting Fields #1. I know he left Ohio St prior to Fields starting at QB, but he still has more info on Fields than any other coach based on his relationship with the current coach.
Originally posted by dwy621:
My concern is why isn't Urban Meyer thinking of drafting Fields #1. I know he left Ohio St prior to Fields starting at QB, but he still has more info on Fields than any other coach based on his relationship with the current coach.

Because Fields isn't as good as Lawrence.
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