Justin Fields QB - Ohio State

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
If the top 2 go like how we think we could end up getting our "FAVORITE ONE."

-Kyle Shanahan

"Our" favorite one....Lynch and Shanahan are on the same page about this pick.

You guys do realize Kyle could have top 3 listed differently then Urban Myer does,right?

Originally posted by Keepcool:
You guys do realize Kyle could have top 3 listed differently then Urban Myer does,right?

I have no doubt that he does. In fact, it's likely that Kyle's top 3 is different than the 31 other HCs.

Originally posted by Keepcool:
You guys do realize Kyle could have top 3 listed differently then Urban Myer does,right?

The Jaguars have known all along they're taking Lawrence. They probably just grabbed 2 of the other "top" guys to interview to show their owner they did their due diligence.

Originally posted by Costanza:
"Our" favorite one....Lynch and Shanahan are on the same page about this pick.

Oddly enough this statement made me think of Wilson.

You all may not wanna believe it but race has always been a factor when it comes to black QBs. Dont kid yourself. I think we are just now recently starting to accept that black qbs can be as good and as intelligent as white qbs. Its no different than the rest of the country. Blacks have alot of obstacles in life in general that most dont have the stomach to admit. Turn a blind eye all you want but thats reality and most likely if your not black you wont ever get it. Am I accusing Shanahan of that NO..not at all but its a real thing. Hence why guys like Lamar Jackson get suggested to play wide receiver even after winning a heisman as a QB. 32 teams and only 10 starting qbs are black. And thats the most EVER at one time. Dont act like the race thing is something being made up. Fields in particular been viewed as an elite qb prospect his whole adult life and some of us have the audacity to think he somehow is not smart enough or have the processing ability to go thru more than one read. Gtfoh.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm not crying racism. But you can't tell me that prejudices and biases aren't playing a part in the evaluation of Fields, Lance, and Jones. We've seen this movie many times before.

But everything at this point is perception. Fields hasn't dropped at all. If he falls then I'm sure there are legit reasons why. Lance punches holes into the prejudices theory imo.

It's not just perception. There are actual statements being made by those in and connected to the league, which then permeate through respective fanbases, including ours. You have people in the Jones thread echoing that he's the smartest QB who ever lived and saying that Fields and Lance are slow to process. Which is just ridiculous and not backed up by the tape or advanced statistics.

The only legit knock on Feilds is he's slow off his first read. Folks try to play it off as his first read was always open, but the film don't lie.

Do you understand that the offense he was in at OSU is predicated on option routes? So he has HAS to stay on the primary read to allow the WR to make his choice on his route.

If their system requires staring down your first read (which it doesn't) then no wonder they always lose the big game. I got no dog in this race, I'm fine with whomever they take, including Fields. Making excuses for the guy doesn't change the fact that he is slow on his reads occasionally.

Originally posted by MeddlingKids:

Originally posted by Costanza:
"Our" favorite one....Lynch and Shanahan are on the same page about this pick.

Oddly enough this statement made me think of Wilson.

Who also wears #1. It's confirmed we are down to Wilson and Fields.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm not crying racism. But you can't tell me that prejudices and biases aren't playing a part in the evaluation of Fields, Lance, and Jones. We've seen this movie many times before.

But everything at this point is perception. Fields hasn't dropped at all. If he falls then I'm sure there are legit reasons why. Lance punches holes into the prejudices theory imo.

It's not just perception. There are actual statements being made by those in and connected to the league, which then permeate through respective fanbases, including ours. You have people in the Jones thread echoing that he's the smartest QB who ever lived and saying that Fields and Lance are slow to process. Which is just ridiculous and not backed up by the tape or advanced statistics.

The only legit knock on Feilds is he's slow off his first read. Folks try to play it off as his first read was always open, but the film don't lie.

Do you understand that the offense he was in at OSU is predicated on option routes? So he has HAS to stay on the primary read to allow the WR to make his choice on his route.

If their system requires staring down your first read (which it doesn't) then no wonder they always lose the big game. I got no dog in this race, I'm fine with whomever they take, including Fields. Making excuses for the guy doesn't change the fact that he is slow on his reads occasionally.

Him and every other qb that ever lived is occassionally slow on their reads. C'mon bro

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
I agree, he seemed to make like the guy he wanted at 12 is worth it at 3. I just gotta believe that he is going after someone he believes he had no shot at at 12.

With what we spent yes for sure

So no footage of Fields drunk at a club talking about 100 mil? With his beer belly out in a tommy bahama shirt

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm not crying racism. But you can't tell me that prejudices and biases aren't playing a part in the evaluation of Fields, Lance, and Jones. We've seen this movie many times before.

But everything at this point is perception. Fields hasn't dropped at all. If he falls then I'm sure there are legit reasons why. Lance punches holes into the prejudices theory imo.

It's not just perception. There are actual statements being made by those in and connected to the league, which then permeate through respective fanbases, including ours. You have people in the Jones thread echoing that he's the smartest QB who ever lived and saying that Fields and Lance are slow to process. Which is just ridiculous and not backed up by the tape or advanced statistics.

The only legit knock on Feilds is he's slow off his first read. Folks try to play it off as his first read was always open, but the film don't lie.

Do you understand that the offense he was in at OSU is predicated on option routes? So he has HAS to stay on the primary read to allow the WR to make his choice on his route.

If their system requires staring down your first read (which it doesn't) then no wonder they always lose the big game. I got no dog in this race, I'm fine with whomever they take, including Fields. Making excuses for the guy doesn't change the fact that he is slow on his reads occasionally.

Doesn't mean he has to stare it down (he doesn't), but he does have to wait for the WR to make his decision. There is so much film available on YouTube debunking this BS. Anyone regurgitating it is either lazy or biased themselves.

Originally posted by hubbyt:
You all may not wanna believe it but race has always been a factor when it comes to black QBs. Dont kid yourself. I think we are just now recently starting to accept that black qbs can be as good and as intelligent as white qbs. Its no different than the rest of the country. Blacks have alot of obstacles in life in general that most dont have the stomach to admit. Turn a blind eye all you want but thats reality and most likely if your not black you wont ever get it. Am I accusing Shanahan of that NO..not at all but its a real thing. Hence why guys like Lamar Jackson get suggested to play wide receiver even after winning a heisman as a QB. 32 teams and only 10 starting qbs are black. And thats the most EVER at one time. Dont act like the race thing is something being made up. Fields in particular been viewed as an elite qb prospect his whole adult life and some of us have the audacity to think he somehow is not smart enough or have the processing ability to go thru more than one read. Gtfoh.

Bring this to the race discussion thread

Originally posted by Keepcool:
You guys do realize Kyle could have top 3 listed differently then Urban Myer does,right?

Everyone's board is ranked differently BUT with what was spent to get to three I'm sure there's a general consensus about the top three QBs amongst most GMs

i thought I heard Lawrence Wilson and Fields and that's just what I've thought and sounds like dang near everyone else that's talking or revealing anything

When the climate is like that and there's a consensus then you're gonna have to spend big to get in and we did

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
So no footage of Fields drunk at a club talking about 100 mil? With his beer belly out in a tommy bahama shirt

That's not real, is it? If so... what!?