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Rashawn Slater - OL

Originally posted by NCommand:
I would imagine COVID rules might still apply and you'll need to keep 10 OL active anyhow so you'd still have 3 C's including a young protege and Garland. I don't think it's one or the other. Ideally, it's Lindsey + Garland and you use that pick somewhere else.

With what money? I'd love to have him BUT he's gonna cost twice as much as Mack who's probably willing to sign in SF (and be close to home) for a market discount.

Mack/Garland and a kid like Green in the 5th make a ton of sense. Slater is my #1 draft guy, if they can't get a QB I just don't no how realistic it is.

I won't be shocked if Richburg takes a vet min deal (with incentives) and SF throws him on the PUP list as part of the deal with Mack/Garland.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I would imagine COVID rules might still apply and you'll need to keep 10 OL active anyhow so you'd still have 3 C's including a young protege and Garland. I don't think it's one or the other. Ideally, it's Lindsey + Garland and you use that pick somewhere else.

With what money? I'd love to have him BUT he's gonna cost twice as much as Mack who's probably willing to sign in SF (and be close to home) for a market discount.

Mack/Garland and a kid like Green in the 5th make a ton of sense. Slater is my #1 draft guy, if they can't get a QB I just don't no how realistic it is.

I won't be shocked if Richburg takes a vet min deal (with incentives) and SF throws him on the PUP list as part of the deal with Mack/Garland.

I agree here, due to salary cap the best way I see to getting a playoff caliber oline is T. Williams - Tomlinson - Mack - Slater - McGlinchy
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
I agree here, due to salary cap the best way I see to getting a playoff caliber oline is T. Williams - Tomlinson - Mack - Slater - McGlinchy

I'd be onboard with that starting o-line. Slater's presence on the right side would help McG tremendously.
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
I'd be onboard with that starting o-line. Slater's presence on the right side would help McG tremendously.

McG issues were all his own. Getting ragdolled by db's and blown past by rushers has little to do with the RG next to him.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
I'd be onboard with that starting o-line. Slater's presence on the right side would help McG tremendously.

McG issues were all his own. Getting ragdolled by db's and blown past by rushers has little to do with the RG next to him.

Having a right guard there to support him is a bigger deal than you think. Anthony Davis used to struggle mightily on passing downs but it helped him to have Boone there to protect.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
A later round rookie center is not going to be out Mack, brunskill or garland. Save the pick for BPA and get a Udfa C on the PS

What if a center is BPA?

The rest is just silly. Teams find starters on the OL in the 3rd and 4th rounds all the time. The Packers have made a killing off of it over the years.

Imagine applying the same logic to other positions?

"A third round LB is never going to beat out a veteran. Instead of wasting a pick on Fred Warner, just bring in a UDFA!"
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
A later round rookie center is not going to be out Mack, brunskill or garland. Save the pick for BPA and get a Udfa C on the PS

What if a center is BPA?

The rest is just silly. Teams find starters on the OL in the 3rd and 4th rounds all the time. The Packers have made a killing off of it over the years.

Imagine applying the same logic to other positions?

"A third round LB is never going to beat out a veteran. Instead of wasting a pick on Fred Warner, just bring in a UDFA!"
that would have to be a darn good center to beat other BPAs

What is silly, We are not going to start a rookie C, we are not going to start a rookie center over our back ups who have Kyle's cadence implemented already if our starter gets hurt

This is where you are failing the logic side when comparing this to LBs, There can be 3 LBs on the field at a time. LBs get rotated during games. There's more opportunity for a mid round 3rd or 4th LB on the depth chart to play than a 3rd to 4th Center on the depth chart
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Feb 17, 2021 at 12:42 PM ]
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Having a right guard there to support him is a bigger deal than you think. Anthony Davis used to struggle mightily on passing downs but it helped him to have Boone there to protect.

I saw nothing last year that indicated to me that McG issues were related to the RG. In fact I saw more of the opposite.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Having a right guard there to support him is a bigger deal than you think. Anthony Davis used to struggle mightily on passing downs but it helped him to have Boone there to protect.

I saw nothing last year that indicated to me that McG issues were related to the RG. In fact I saw more of the opposite.

Never said it was related to the RG. Im saying that he can get better support in the pass game when he has someone as talented as Slater next to him.
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
I agree here, due to salary cap the best way I see to getting a playoff caliber oline is T. Williams - Tomlinson - Mack - Slater - McGlinchy

BUT that's only FIVE former 1st round picks I want more lol. How can our OL be this horrible with SF not investing anything on highly regarded prospects.

That's my OL stan WZ voice lol.

and yes I would be completely happy with this (if we can't land a QB)
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
that would have to be a darn good center to beat other BPAs

What is silly, We are not going to start a rookie C, we are not going to start a rookie center over our back ups who have Kyle's cadence implemented already if our starter gets hurt

This is where you are failing the logic side when comparing this to LBs, There can be 3 LBs on the field at a time. LBs get rotated during games. There's more opportunity for a mid round 3rd or 4th LB on the depth chart to play than a 3rd to 4th Center on the depth chart

What difference does position make? Unless you're talking about kicker or punter, BPA is BPA. If you're sitting there in the 3rd round and the highest ranked guy on your board is a center, do you take a lesser player instead?
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Having a right guard there to support him is a bigger deal than you think. Anthony Davis used to struggle mightily on passing downs but it helped him to have Boone there to protect.

I saw nothing last year that indicated to me that McG issues were related to the RG. In fact I saw more of the opposite.

Never said it was related to the RG. Im saying that he can get better support in the pass game when he has someone as talented as Slater next to him.
Continuity, execution and trust goes a long way for OL.

Slater if he's the truth, then that will elevate McGlinch's play
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Feb 17, 2021 at 1:14 PM ]
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I would imagine COVID rules might still apply and you'll need to keep 10 OL active anyhow so you'd still have 3 C's including a young protege and Garland. I don't think it's one or the other. Ideally, it's Lindsey + Garland and you use that pick somewhere else.

With what money? I'd love to have him BUT he's gonna cost twice as much as Mack who's probably willing to sign in SF (and be close to home) for a market discount.

Mack/Garland and a kid like Green in the 5th make a ton of sense. Slater is my #1 draft guy, if they can't get a QB I just don't no how realistic it is.

I won't be shocked if Richburg takes a vet min deal (with incentives) and SF throws him on the PUP list as part of the deal with Mack/Garland.

I agree here, due to salary cap the best way I see to getting a playoff caliber oline is T. Williams - Tomlinson - Mack - Slater - McGlinchy
This is the way. The Slater pick provides so much insurance. It not him, then a player with the talent to start at guard or center would be ideal.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
that would have to be a darn good center to beat other BPAs

What is silly, We are not going to start a rookie C, we are not going to start a rookie center over our back ups who have Kyle's cadence implemented already if our starter gets hurt

This is where you are failing the logic side when comparing this to LBs, There can be 3 LBs on the field at a time. LBs get rotated during games. There's more opportunity for a mid round 3rd or 4th LB on the depth chart to play than a 3rd to 4th Center on the depth chart

What difference does position make? Unless you're talking about kicker or punter, BPA is BPA. If you're sitting there in the 3rd round and the highest ranked guy on your board is a center, do you take a lesser player instead?
why wouldn't it fall into the STs player category when drafting. If the Center has no chance at playing and might be 4th on the depth chart? I'm sure other teams don't draft multiple centers or a center in the draft repeatedly or have 4 or more centers on a team. You can probably land that same guy in UDFA
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Continuity, execution and trust goes a long way for OL.

Slater if he's the truth, then that will elevate McGlinch's play

Not if db's are rag dolling him. McG has to elevate his own play at the moment. He's his own biggest issue.
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