Originally posted by Heroism:
It really sucks that there won't be a combine(right?). The best way to find the gem edge rushers is to find the guys with the good 10-yard split/3-cone/short shuttle and watch their tape. If they've get off+hand use+football IQ, we're cooking.
Originally posted by Heroism:
It really sucks that there won't be a combine(right?). The best way to find the gem edge rushers is to find the guys with the good 10-yard split/3-cone/short shuttle and watch their tape. If they've get off+hand use+football IQ, we're cooking.
Originally posted by Heroism:
It really sucks that there won't be a combine(right?). The best way to find the gem edge rushers is to find the guys with the good 10-yard split/3-cone/short shuttle and watch their tape. If they've get off+hand use+football IQ, we're cooking.
I need some damn combine numbers.
Agree. And the ones most affected are the small schools. Guys comming from James Madison or Mississippi Valley State have a big handicap, I think, going into this years draft. It could be that a lot more potential undrafreds will be invited to local team pro days vs prior to Covid.
Am I the only fan of Wyatt Hubert out of K-State ?
6'4 270 CAREER: A career 29-game starter who bypassed his senior season to enter the NFL Draft... Finished his career tied for eighth in school history with 20.0 career sacks, while his 34.0 tackles for loss were five shy of entering the school's top 10... Finished his career ranked seventh in the nation among active players in sacks per game (0.59) and 10th in tackles for loss per game (1.00).
2020: Started all 10 games, totaling 27 tackles, 13.0 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks, the latter two being career highs... Earned his second-consecutive First Team All-Big 12 honor and was the only unanimous selection on defense... Also earned votes for both the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year and Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year awards for a second-straight year... Named a semifinalist for the Ted Hendricks Award and to the watch lists for the Bronko Nagruski Trophy and Bednarik Award... Finished the season tied for third in the Big 12 in sacks and ranked seventh in tackles for loss... Ranked 16th nationally in sacks... Also tied for sixth in the Big 12 with two forced fumbles... Had a banner day against Oklahoma State when he totaled a career high 2.5 sacks, the most by a Wildcat since 2015 and the most in a Big 12 game since 2013... Blocked a field goal at TCU.
2019: Started 12 games, leading the team with 12.5 tackles for loss and 7.0 sacks en route to First Team All-Big 12 honors from the league's coaches and Associated Press... Also earned votes from the league's coaches for the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year and Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year... Tied for second in the Big 12 in sacks, while he was 10th in TFLs... Tied his career high of 2.0 sacks against both Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, the former in which he caused a fumble... Had a season-high four tackles to go along with 1.5 TFLs and a sack in K-State's win over No. 5 Oklahoma... Also had 2.0 TFLs against Iowa State... Recorded at least 1.0 TFL in nine of his 12 games played... A candidate for the Ted Hendricks Award and Bronko Nagurski Award.
2018: Saw action in all 12 games with seven starts en route to Freshman All-America honors from USA TODAY Sports... Carded 34 tackles, 8.5 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks on the year to go along with a pass breakup and an interception against Mississippi State... Led all Big 12 freshmen in TFLs per game (0.71), while he was second among freshmen in sacks per game (0.38), the latter ranking third in the nation... Set a season high with five tackles against Texas Tech, a game that featured a season-best 2.0 sacks and a season-high tying 2.0 TFLs... Other game with 2.0 TFLs was at TCU... Also had a sack against Kansas and 1.5 sacks at Baylor... Recorded four tackles against Mississippi State, Baylor, TCU and Kansas... His interception and subsequent 11-yard return against Mississippi State led to a K-State touchdown.
This one guy Voch Lombardi is a free lance talent evaluator of NFL draft prospects and he might have also played in the league and he was saying that don't just listen to the media scouts and believe everything that they say and do your own research on these guys. He believes that azeez ojulari and jaelan phillips are pretty much tied for edge1
Originally posted by Scorgasms:
This one guy Voch Lombardi is a free lance talent evaluator of NFL draft prospects and he might have also played in the league and he was saying that don't just listen to the media scouts and believe everything that they say and do your own research on these guys. He believes that azeez ojulari and jaelan phillips are pretty much tied for edge1
Voch never played in the league lol. He coaches high school football in Texas. He's a good evaluator and is right about not listening to the media and doing your own evaluation.
Originally posted by Scorgasms:
This one guy Voch Lombardi is a free lance talent evaluator of NFL draft prospects and he might have also played in the league and he was saying that don't just listen to the media scouts and believe everything that they say and do your own research on these guys. He believes that azeez ojulari and jaelan phillips are pretty much tied for edge1
Voch never played in the league lol. He coaches high school football in Texas. He's a good evaluator and is right about not listening to the media and doing your own evaluation.
Oh I c lol. He seems like he knows his stuff but everybody has there own opinion and it's ok to agree to disagree on these prospects.
Laser timing? If there's no laser timing it's not much better than pro days with people trying to time them with stopwatches.
Agree, although in defense of the Exos's guys, 40 yard dash (and all the other metrics) don't always make an all pro player though. I would think there would be a hidden advantage to scouts -- if scouts who are familiar with zoom can have more zoom meetings with prospects. They don't have to travel a million miles, nowadays, to go see a player, just schedule a zoom appointment - and download some tape from their account (or have them sent by the prospect to the scout?). It can save time and money and can get valuable scouting data and build some sort of relationship with the prospect.
The thing about the NFL scouting combine is that not every prospect was invited to the NFL combine, and there were some guys that fell through the cracks that were able to make the teams later on. I remember reading something about Bullitt Bob Hays being drafted in the very very late rounds (he would be undrafted today) because he had to be on the Olympic team and couldn't be looked at by the scouts. That would be an example of guys falling through the cracks in todays covid environment.
What do you guys think of Jayson Oweh? He didn't have any sacks this season but he was great at everything and is super fast. He could make a really good rush LB and replacement for Ford. He's expected to go mid 1st to early 2nd.
Laser timing? If there's no laser timing it's not much better than pro days with people trying to time them with stopwatches.
Agree, although in defense of the Exos's guys, 40 yard dash (and all the other metrics) don't always make an all pro player though. I would think there would be a hidden advantage to scouts -- if scouts who are familiar with zoom can have more zoom meetings with prospects. They don't have to travel a million miles, nowadays, to go see a player, just schedule a zoom appointment - and download some tape from their account (or have them sent by the prospect to the scout?). It can save time and money and can get valuable scouting data and build some sort of relationship with the prospect.
The thing about the NFL scouting combine is that not every prospect was invited to the NFL combine, and there were some guys that fell through the cracks that were able to make the teams later on. I remember reading something about Bullitt Bob Hays being drafted in the very very late rounds (he would be undrafted today) because he had to be on the Olympic team and couldn't be looked at by the scouts. That would be an example of guys falling through the cracks in todays covid environment.
Scouts in general are really going to earn their money this year.
I would think there would be a hidden advantage to scouts -- if scouts who are familiar with zoom can have more zoom meetings with prospects. They don't have to travel a million miles, nowadays, to go see a player, just schedule a zoom appointment - and download some tape from their account (or have them sent by the prospect to the scout?). It can save time and money and can get valuable scouting data and build some sort of relationship with the prospect.