QB Class 2021

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
In the Newman/Trask tier. I do think he has a chance to be QB5 next year behind Strong, Rattler, Howell, and Corral

I know it's early, but man that list is underwhelming. Slovis in a full yr at USC and Daniels being healthy at Georgia could make some noise.

Couldn't agree more

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Couldn't agree more

The 49ers need to move up and get their guy

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Absolutely X2

49ers always target their guy. That's their style. So, if Kyle loves one of these QBs, they'll get him. They're not going to let the board come to them and take the best remaining QB left. That's not how they draft.

If they love Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance or--as much as people wont like it--Mac Jones, they'll go get them.

Originally posted by AsianJeff:
I know it's early, but man that list is underwhelming. Slovis in a full yr at USC and Daniels being healthy at Georgia could make some noise.

Howell looks absolutely legit. He is Trubisky with better tools and football IQ. Strong is already a very good QB prospect. Rattler with one more strong season could be the top prospect. He's in the same mold as Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. Corral has a ton of room to ascend if he progresses and Slovis just needs to get back to his previous high level of play. Not a huge fan of Desmond Ridder but he could easily move into the discussion with a big season. Daniels of course and then you also have Tyler Slough at Oregon who could come out.

The amount of QB talent that will potentially be available next year is just one reason why I don't think the 49ers have to panic and make a desperation move for one this year. If there's no one that they are in love with and no trade that makes sense, just keep building the roster and swing for the fences next year.

Originally posted by Heroism:
49ers always target their guy. That's their style. So, if Kyle loves one of these QBs, they'll get him. They're not going to let the board come to them and take the best remaining QB left. That's not how they draft.

If they love Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance or--as much as people wont like it--Mac Jones, they'll go get them.

Totally agree. However, they have to have a willing trading partner. If the Jets love Z Wilson, they say no to a trade. If the Dolphins love J Fields, they say no to a trade. Same scenario for Atlanta. Seems unlikely that 4 QBs go in a row, but I also didn't think the Rams could unload Goff and his contract.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:
I know it's early, but man that list is underwhelming. Slovis in a full yr at USC and Daniels being healthy at Georgia could make some noise.

Howell looks absolutely legit. He is Trubisky with better tools and football IQ. Strong is already a very good QB prospect. Rattler with one more strong season could be the top prospect. He's in the same mold as Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. Corral has a ton of room to ascend if he progresses and Slovis just needs to get back to his previous high level of play. Not a huge fan of Desmond Ridder but he could easily move into the discussion with a big season. Daniels of course and then you also have Tyler Slough at Oregon who could come out.

The amount of QB talent that will potentially be available next year is just one reason why I don't think the 49ers have to panic and make a desperation move for one this year. If there's no one that they are in love with and no trade that makes sense, just keep building the roster and swing for the fences next year.

Bypassing the assessment of the underclass QBs, the likely difference on the 49ers side next year is they'll likely have less value in their Draft capital, thus less ability to maneuver without sacrificing even greater value than would be needed this year.

Course, maybe they select at 22 next year, and their preferred QB option falls. That's always a possibility. But, what if their preferred QB option is at 9, they are slotted at 22, and either can't get to that spot, miss out on their preferred player, or acquire him and damage the future greater than they would this year because they have to give up more in the trade-up?

I know you get all this, I just think we are uniquely positioned this Draft with our better-than-likely-will-be again 12 and I don't want to miss out.

The majority of it all comes down to who the brass thinks is "their guy." I hope it turns out accurate it's one this year so the future ends up the brightest it can be.

Originally posted by austrich:
Bypassing the assessment of the underclass QBs, the likely difference on the 49ers side next year is they'll likely have less value in their Draft capital, thus less ability to maneuver without sacrificing even greater value than would be needed this year.

Course, maybe they select at 22 next year, and their preferred QB option falls. That's always a possibility. But, what if their preferred QB option is at 9, they are slotted at 22, and either can't get to that spot, miss out on their preferred player, or acquire him and damage the future greater than they would this year because they have to give up more in the trade-up?

I know you get all this, I just think we are uniquely positioned this Draft with our better-than-likely-will-be again 12 and I don't want to miss out.

The majority of it all comes down to who the brass thinks is "their guy." I hope it turns out accurate it's one this year so the future ends up the brightest it can be.

I think its more that if you continue to build the roster and fill in the holes that exist, you'd be in better overall position to go all out for a QB if you needed one.

Originally posted by Heroism:
49ers always target their guy. That's their style. So, if Kyle loves one of these QBs, they'll get him. They're not going to let the board come to them and take the best remaining QB left. That's not how they draft.

If they love Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance or--as much as people wont like it--Mac Jones, they'll go get them.

I can live with that...

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by AsianJeff:
I know it's early, but man that list is underwhelming. Slovis in a full yr at USC and Daniels being healthy at Georgia could make some noise.

Howell looks absolutely legit. He is Trubisky with better tools and football IQ. Strong is already a very good QB prospect. Rattler with one more strong season could be the top prospect. He's in the same mold as Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. Corral has a ton of room to ascend if he progresses and Slovis just needs to get back to his previous high level of play. Not a huge fan of Desmond Ridder but he could easily move into the discussion with a big season. Daniels of course and then you also have Tyler Slough at Oregon who could come out.

The amount of QB talent that will potentially be available next year is just one reason why I don't think the 49ers have to panic and make a desperation move for one this year. If there's no one that they are in love with and no trade that makes sense, just keep building the roster and swing for the fences next year.

And we will be right where we are now....meh I don't know let's just keep "building the roster" lol. "Jimmy has one more yr under contract and he wasn't THAT bad in the games he played in 2021." my god I can hear it now....

"We can't get risky drafting a QB unless one falls into our lap...and even then"

There's no guarantee SF will be sitting high enough to even grab one of the top guys and SF fans are so tight with their draft picks, it's ridiculous.

Enough with "next yr" and what ifs....this has nothing to do with desperation or panic mode and everything to do with getting a top talent on the team and getting them ready to play for 2022, I mean according to fans this complex offense takes YEARS to figure out.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by austrich:
Bypassing the assessment of the underclass QBs, the likely difference on the 49ers side next year is they'll likely have less value in their Draft capital, thus less ability to maneuver without sacrificing even greater value than would be needed this year.

Course, maybe they select at 22 next year, and their preferred QB option falls. That's always a possibility. But, what if their preferred QB option is at 9, they are slotted at 22, and either can't get to that spot, miss out on their preferred player, or acquire him and damage the future greater than they would this year because they have to give up more in the trade-up?

I know you get all this, I just think we are uniquely positioned this Draft with our better-than-likely-will-be again 12 and I don't want to miss out.

The majority of it all comes down to who the brass thinks is "their guy." I hope it turns out accurate it's one this year so the future ends up the brightest it can be.

I think its more that if you continue to build the roster and fill in the holes that exist, you'd be in better overall position to go all out for a QB if you needed one.

It should for all of us go without saying that we'd like to improve the O-line, solidify the secondary, add a dependable EDGE (or 3), et al. AND get our FQB as quickly as possible. It would improve the likelihood this hopefully baller QB we draft ends up maximizing his ability in that situation. But, I think most of us will agree that's highly unlikely to be possible in one offseason.

So, I simply tier it in a way that if we get who the brass thinks is a bonafide FQB this offseason, add a Mack to address iOL, keep E-Man + Verrett/Fuller/Rhodes/draft pick at CB, scoop up Hooker in FA or draft a S, retain Trent, either re-sign Shark or draft Molden as our Nickel, finally get a return specialist, etc., then we can accomplish both the holistic improvement of the entire roster, while also finally acquiring a QB who has a top tier ceiling to go along with the ad nauseum-mentioned cap savings to enable cap wizardry.

This is dependent on a lot of pieces to fall together, but when isn't it? If there's a QB or few in this Draft that Kyle & co. objectively deem special for the 49ers, then I say the proverbial hot iron is past due to be struck.

Originally posted by Heroism:
49ers always target their guy. That's their style. So, if Kyle loves one of these QBs, they'll get him. They're not going to let the board come to them and take the best remaining QB left. That's not how they draft.

If they love Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance or--as much as people wont like it--Mac Jones, they'll go get them.

Very very true

Originally posted by Heroism:
49ers always target their guy. That's their style. So, if Kyle loves one of these QBs, they'll get him. They're not going to let the board come to them and take the best remaining QB left. That's not how they draft.

If they love Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance or--as much as people wont like it--Mac Jones, they'll go get them.

100% correct

We've seen this happen numerous times with this regime - when they LOVE a prospect Shanalynch get aggresssive and don't leave it up to chance (ala Rueben Foster, Dante Pettis, CJ Beathard, and Aiyuk)

The trend will only continue this year...

Just keep in mind that there's no guarantee they'll love a QB.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Just keep in mind that there's no guarantee they'll love a QB.

And that was my entire point earlier.. If you don't absolutely love a QB or you can't get the guy that you love, then you move on. They don't need to get desperate.

The draft history of teams settling for leftovers at QB or drafting a QB because they happened to be the top remaining QB on the board is not a good one.

Of the top four QBs in this draft, historically speaking its likely that you'll have one or two that are franchise QBs, one that is a so so starter and one that is a complete bust.