WITH THE 12TH PICK OF THE 2021 DRAFT...

Originally posted by 9ers4u:

Picking at 15 you have a chance to get the 2nd best guy at his position.

If the 2nd best corner is there and the 5th best QB, you go for value.

I would bet my house that 49ers brass doesn't sell the farm for a QB this draft.

But I don't want to ruin anyone's party. Have fun with it. Mock drafts are fun and entertaining.

It's not about getting the 2nd best player at their position...it's about the teams big board. If you have the 2nd ranked DB as the 30th prospect on your board, that's not great value at 15.

IMO this draft is kinda meh at the top outside of QB and WR. The DBs aren't anything special. Outside of Sewell the other OTs aren't amazing. No true stud EDGE prospects. The top defensive player is a LBer

There's some good depth at positions of need (OL/DB/edge) which is great because they have a ton day 3 picks.

This is the perfect draft to move up and get your QB if you think he's the guy....but I agree with you it's highly unlikely after that last win.

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:
I want Patrick Surtain ... dude is a legit corner prospect.

He could be gone in the top 10 if someone needs a DB bad enough.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

I want Patrick Surtain ... dude is a legit corner prospect.

He could be gone in the top 10 if someone needs a DB bad enough.

I thought he was a bit underwhelming vs Florida.

Well the five teams ahead of the 49ers have winnable games this weekend, so there is a decent chance of moving up a few spots, assuming a loss to the Seahawks. It would be a good idea to pick a QB to give him a year to learn the Shanahan offense.

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:
I want Patrick Surtain ... dude is a legit corner prospect.

same here, but i think he is rated seventh best player on most of the boards i read

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:

I want Patrick Surtain ... dude is a legit corner prospect.

He could be gone in the top 10 if someone needs a DB bad enough.

I thought he was a bit underwhelming vs Florida.

He's going top 10 I'd be willing to bet

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:
I want Patrick Surtain ... dude is a legit corner prospect.

He could be gone in the top 10 if someone needs a DB bad enough.

I thought he was a bit underwhelming vs Florida.

He's going top 10 I'd be willing to bet

Yeah, Surtain is going top ten, regardless of what people are saying about the year he had.

Originally posted by lp1986:
I think the worst thing the 49ers can do is "rationalize" their way into selecting Mac Jones or Kyle Trask in the first round. As 2nd or 3rd rounders these guys make sense...but taking them in the 1st would be redundant, if not crazy, because the 49ers already have a player like them in Jimmy G.

To me, QB pecking order in this draft class is
1) Trevor Lawrence - far and away the best prospect; as close to a lock as it gets.
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2) Zach Wilson - maybe the most pure thrower of the football we've seen in a long time, but questions about competition and size.
3) Justin Fields - has all the tools and the numbers against good competition but...he's from Ohio St...
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4) Trey Lance - incredibly small sample size but arguably the most talented passer in the class not named Lawrence.
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5) Mac Jones - elite timing and anticipation, great accuracy, including on deep balls, but very middle of the road arm and is purely a pocket passer.
6) Kyle Trask - slightly better arm but slightly less accurate than Jones. Otherwise, they are similar prospects.

There are four tiers of top QBs in this class. Everyone ranked #1 through #4 CAN become a franchise QB because the tools are there; arm talent, mobility; leadership, etc. The difference is purely in the perceived risk profile based on their experience and projection. You can justify taking someone like Lance in the top 10 because if you think you can develop him, the raw materials are there to have someone elite.

But dropping a first round pick on Mac Jones or Kyle Trask for the 49ers is simply foolish. The upside for these two players is Kirk Cousins or...Jimmy G. Average to slightly above average starters who will keep you competitive, and maybe can even help win a Super Bowl, but they're not players who single-handedly elevate their teams.

There are several teams who would love to have that given how much bad QB play there is in this league. Think the Redskins would take Mac Jones yesterday? They'd be in the playoffs. But the 49ers don't need to burn a first round pick on someone like Jimmy G because they already have him. He can be maddeningly inconsistent he doesn't have a good deep ball, but he's someone you can win with; someone teammates adore and someone who knows the offense.

To me, the calculus for the 49ers is clear. You do your homework on Wilson, Fields and Lance, and if you're convinced one of them is your guy for the next 15 years, you bet the farm and go get them. If not, you stick with Jimmy G and bet on a raw but toolsy QB you can develop in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round...someone like..Kellen Mond, Jamie Newman, or Desmond Ridder.

this post is full of win! Just cuz I agree with it like 100%

If not a QB, I really want another edge rusher. Someone opposite Bosa to bring the heat on QB's. If you have a dominant pass rush, you can get away with far less in the secondary.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

If not a QB, I really want another edge rusher. Someone opposite Bosa to bring the heat on QB's. If you have a dominant pass rush, you can get away with far less in the secondary.

Yes sir.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If not a QB, I really want another edge rusher. Someone opposite Bosa to bring the heat on QB's. If you have a dominant pass rush, you can get away with far less in the secondary.

Yes sir.

Yep, totally agree - get an edge rusher to bookend with Bosa.

We're in great shape for this draft with all the Qb's. If we don't take a qb we're looking at a top 6-7 talent in this draft. OLine or edge rusher. Remember we are just one good edge rusher opposite Bosa to dominate

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

If not a QB, I really want another edge rusher. Someone opposite Bosa to bring the heat on QB's. If you have a dominant pass rush, you can get away with far less in the secondary.

Yes sir.

Yep, totally agree - get an edge rusher to bookend with Bosa.

Yep. Another stud edge opposite Bosa and it's Super Bowl if we stay healthy. Kinlaw,Thomas and AA would feast.

Take the best player available with maybe the exception of LB. Otherwise, there's not a position group that doesn't need a great player.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

If not a QB, I really want another edge rusher. Someone opposite Bosa to bring the heat on QB's. If you have a dominant pass rush, you can get away with far less in the secondary.

Yes sir.

Gotta watch a bunch more but at this point I don't really see that elite edge rusher. I think I like Paye more Rousseau at this point.