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WITH THE 12TH PICK OF THE 2021 DRAFT...

Originally posted by AceDuce49:
When can teams call other teams to discuss trades in the draft?

This Wednesday on January 6 th at 9am eastern. All rules get thrown out and anything goes.
Originally posted by HarbaughzDeep:
Think with your head and not your heart. The Jets are taking a QB. It's pretty simple.

New GM. New HC. New regime. Darnold (whether his fault or not) has soured. They have Seattle's 1st and 3rd Rounders this year from the Adams trade (also have Seattle's 1st in 2022). They have the picks to give a new QB weapons.

They're going to take their choice of Fields or Wilson.

What? If this is true, lol @ Seattle
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by HarbaughzDeep:
Think with your head and not your heart. The Jets are taking a QB. It's pretty simple.

New GM. New HC. New regime. Darnold (whether his fault or not) has soured. They have Seattle's 1st and 3rd Rounders this year from the Adams trade (also have Seattle's 1st in 2022). They have the picks to give a new QB weapons.

They're going to take their choice of Fields or Wilson.

What? If this is true, lol @ Seattle

Jamal Adams trade 👍🏼
If we can´t trade-up to get Wilson just give our 1st to Detroit for Stafford.

One way or the other we have to get a QB with that 1st round pick.
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Still torn between keeping Jimmy or drafting a QB.
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
If we can´t trade-up to get Wilson just give our 1st to Detroit for Stafford.

One way or the other we have to get a QB with that 1st round pick.

Agreed just take Stafford - and have a 3 year window to make a run
Originally posted by goldlame2013:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Phoenix and NY... would you trade our 1st round pick this year for Stafford? Im not sure I would but curious what you think.

Depends on what the market looks like for Stafford and what the cost would be to move up for a rookie like Wilson.

I'd be happy with a combo trade, like the 49ers 1st and 2nd for Stafford and Detroit's 2nd and 3rd round picks but if it came down to it, I'd be happy with giving up a 1st just for him.

I think Stafford would be scary good in Shanahan's offense, especially with the receivers they have now. Kittle, Aiyuk and Deebo would all be major beneficiaries of adding an experienced veteran passer that has extraordinary arm talent and wouldn't have the pressure of having to carry an entire offense on his shoulders for the first time in his career. If you get four good years out of Stafford and compete for SB's, hopefully winning at least one, to me that would be worth it.
The ideal situation for me would be:
  • trade our 1st for Stafford and a 3rd
  • trade Jimmy to NE for a 3rd


With no offensive line to protect him lol?

Do you think they're picking OL in the 1st?

If you think you're getting a franchise QB you do it regardless of your OL.
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
If we can´t trade-up to get Wilson just give our 1st to Detroit for Stafford.

One way or the other we have to get a QB with that 1st round pick.

Am I the only one who doesn't think it'll take a 1st to get Stafford? I think a 2nd would suffice.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Phoenix and NY... would you trade our 1st round pick this year for Stafford? Im not sure I would but curious what you think.

Yes I would...I also don't think it's gonna cost a 1st rd pick, especially if Stafford wants out.

You gotta pull the trigger on that if it's an option. Stanford underrated in my opinion.
To the Stafford stans, I one question. If Stafford is as great as you say, why would they trade their QB within the same conference? Wouldn't it make sense to trade hi.yo the AFC? You guys are thinking with your hearts, not your minds.
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Am I the only one who doesn't think it'll take a 1st to get Stafford? I think a 2nd would suffice.

Who knows. There is really a limited crowd that would trade for Stafford. The Jaguars, Jets, Panthers, Eagles, Broncos and Giants are likely not inclined to make a move for a veteran QB like Stafford. They are more likely to draft a young guy with the state of their rosters/franchises.The Falcons and Cowboys are likely staying with veterans at QB. Everyone else either has established QB's or just drafted a young guy.

That leaves the following candidates for Stafford in my opinion:

49ers, Patriots, Washington, Bears, Colts and the Saints.

The Lions won't trade him to Chicago. The Patriots don't have a 3rd Rounder this year and their roster is shot. The Saints are up against the cap big time and have Winston/Hill as a contingency plan. Who knows if Rivers comes back for Indianapolis.

That leaves my top spots in order:

1. 49ers
2. Washington
3. Colts

We pick ahead of everyone so whatever the offers are, we could beat them. I think it will end up being a 2nd Rounder that gets the job done with his contract status and everything else accounted for.
Originally posted by HarbaughzDeep:
Who knows. There is really a limited crowd that would trade for Stafford. The Jaguars, Jets, Panthers, Eagles, Broncos and Giants are likely not inclined to make a move for a veteran QB like Stafford. They are more likely to draft a young guy with the state of their rosters/franchises.The Falcons and Cowboys are likely staying with veterans at QB. Everyone else either has established QB's or just drafted a young guy.

That leaves the following candidates for Stafford in my opinion:

49ers, Patriots, Washington, Bears, Colts and the Saints.

The Lions won't trade him to Chicago. The Patriots don't have a 3rd Rounder this year and their roster is shot. The Saints are up against the cap big time and have Winston/Hill as a contingency plan. Who knows if Rivers comes back for Indianapolis.

That leaves my top spots in order:

1. 49ers
2. Washington
3. Colts

We pick ahead of everyone so whatever the offers are, we could beat them. I think it will end up being a 2nd Rounder that gets the job done with his contract status and everything else accounted for.

Nice post. Damn. I was going to break down the teams and their qb needs so thank you. I concur. If we get Stafford and a C/G and a cb in the draft/free agency we are the best team in the nfc (healthy we are anyway)
[ Edited by elguapo on Jan 3, 2021 at 10:29 PM ]
Originally posted by goldlame2013:
To the Stafford stans, I one question. If Stafford is as great as you say, why would they trade their QB within the same conference? Wouldn't it make sense to trade hi.yo the AFC? You guys are thinking with your hearts, not your minds.

LOL... fans here laugh when I post what the other teams would ask from us if we try to go up to that 2nd or even 3rd spot... but they don't find their selves FUNNIER when they come up w/a plan that would ONLY benefit us ... like the other teams are stupid enough to sell us a lambo for 100k.

anyhow.. proceed !!!
LADIES AND GERMS !!!

We actually in a very interesting spot here... if we want a QB, we are going to need to give up a lot and move up... below is my DRAFT prediction w/o any trade while the Jets sticks w/Darnold.

1) JAGS - Trevor Lawrence; QB - Clemson

2) NY Jets - Penei Sewell; OT - Clemson

3) MIA (HOU) - JaMarr Chase; WR - LSU

4) ATLANTA - Justin Fields; QB - Ohio State

5) CINCY - Patrick Surtain; CB - Alabama

6) PHILLY - Zach Wilson; QB - BYU

7) DETROIT - Trey Lance; QB - N. Dakota

8) CAROLINA - Micah Parsons; LB - Penn State

9) DENVER - Caleb Farley; CB - Va Tech

10) DALLAS - Kwity Paye; DE - Michigan

11) NY Giants - Davonta Smith; WR - Alabama

12) SF 49ers - ????
Originally posted by goldlame2013:
To the Stafford stans, I one question. If Stafford is as great as you say, why would they trade their QB within the same conference? Wouldn't it make sense to trade hi.yo the AFC? You guys are thinking with your hearts, not your minds.

The new GM will choose to do whatever is best for the team. He likely won't trade within the division but the conference is possible if the offer is a smarter one to choose.
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