What approach should the 49ers take to drafting a QB in the 2021 draft?

Trade Bosa to maneuver into position to draft a FQB for the next 10+ years. Add Warner/Deebo/Kittle/picks if needed. That's four good young proven assets to choose from.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

If Jones is their guy they didn't learn their lesson. You cannot have a team that devalues interior pass protection and has a non mobile QB as their "guy".

Jones might be the best value so they will draft him because of that. But I also think Jones moves well in the pocket better than Jimmy... but still.

Trade the farm to the Cowboys and draft Wilson.

Wilson is a better prospect ut is he a better fit?

You want to trade the farm on the potential that Wilson can master Kyle's offense. That is why alot of QBs bust. Because a guy has more arm strength or foot speed doesn't make him the perfect QB for system in which he is being drafted. I'm not saying he can't im just saying we don't know if Wilson can be that guy. Everything Mac Jones is, is almost perfect for Shanahan's offense. As it relates to QB they don't seem to go for the shiny toy.

RGIII had more potential than Kirk Cousins but it wasn't RGIII that Kyle preferred.

Johnny Manziel had more potential than Brian Hoyer but it was Manziel who forced Shannyn to quit CLE.

Kaepernick had more potential than Beathard and Homer but it wasn't Kaepernick that Shanahan chose.

I'm sorry why can't Wilson run Kyle's offense?

Through 5 games of #BYU QB Zach Wilson from this year. I don't think there's a better fit for him than the 49ers. He's already doing a lot of things that they incorporate in their offense.

Quick launch point changes, mesh, playaction off of OZ, boots, and RPOs off of IZ/OZ too.

— Jordan Reid (@JReidNFL) November 19, 2020

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And despite of what your Twitter post says. I for one didn't see alot of Kyle's offense being ran by BYU.

In contrast, Mac Jones and Bama's offense makes Jones look like a seamless transition.

But that's just my opinion.

Watched BYU last night. Idk...He missed some pretty eady pthrows, and missed them badly. Ya the athleticism is there, but accuracy >>>> athleticism in KS offense.

Overall, i dont like Bama QBs. But every time i watch Mac im getting more and more impressed. Idk if im all in in that bandwagon, but if Lance or Fields is gone, i wont be mad that we draft Mac.

Don't reach for a QB in the first round. I don't see the Niners in position to get one of the top 3 and maybe not the top 5 guys. If that's the case I don't like using draft picks to move up. I don't think they have enough ammo to move up enough to get one of the top 2 so why waste picks on guys that are questionable. Pick a guy in the 3rd or 4th round. He probably won't be great but you never know. If he isn't the guy and they move on from JG then they can try again in 2022. There are prospects every year.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Don't reach for a QB in the first round. I don't see the Niners in position to get one of the top 3 and maybe not the top 5 guys. If that's the case I don't like using draft picks to move up. I don't think they have enough ammo to move up enough to get one of the top 2 so why waste picks on guys that are questionable. Pick a guy in the 3rd or 4th round. He probably won't be great but you never know. If he isn't the guy and they move on from JG then they can try again in 2022. There are prospects every year.

I posted above how Bosa Warner Deebo Kittle and Aiyuk could be used to move up to draft a FQB for the next 10+ years. The 49ers have plenty of assets, including draft picks, to move up. No excuses.

Originally posted by thl408:
I posted above how Bosa Warner Deebo Kittle and Aiyuk could be used to move up to draft a FQB for the next 10+ years. The 49ers have plenty of assets, including draft picks, to move up. No excuses.

If you're talking about moving up and getting the first pick then fine. I don't know if the Jets would be willing to make a deal and pass on a really great QB prospect. I wouldn't trade Bosa since he's our only legitimate pass rusher. Remember how long it took this team to find a guy like him. Same with Warner. He's the only really good LB we have. The receivers I would trade since they are much easier to replace. I don't know how much else they would need to throw in to get the Jets to bite.

Originally posted by thl408:
I posted above how Bosa Warner Deebo Kittle and Aiyuk could be used to move up to draft a FQB for the next 10+ years. The 49ers have plenty of assets, including draft picks, to move up. No excuses.

The only QB in this draft that might possibly be worth that sort of compensation is going #1 to the Jets and you're not getting them off that spot, anyone else comes with their own series of risks. I don't see the point in giving up a Top 5 NFL DE for a QB that is anything but a sure thing, risking that you wind up with neither a dominant pass rusher nor a franchise QB.

The NFL draft bust graveyard is littered with the corpses of QB's that someone fervently believed could be franchise passers but they just never quite turned out for one reason or another. You go all in like that for an Andrew Luck or possibly a guy like Lawrence but when that caliber of prospect is available, the team that has a chance to pick them is not moving off of them for anything.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by thl408:
I posted above how Bosa Warner Deebo Kittle and Aiyuk could be used to move up to draft a FQB for the next 10+ years. The 49ers have plenty of assets, including draft picks, to move up. No excuses.

If you're talking about moving up and getting the first pick then fine. I don't know if the Jets would be willing to make a deal and pass on a really great QB prospect. I wouldn't trade Bosa since he's our only legitimate pass rusher. Remember how long it took this team to find a guy like him. Same with Warner. He's the only really good LB we have. The receivers I would trade since they are much easier to replace. I don't know how much else they would need to throw in to get the Jets to bite.

The 49ers had a legitimate pass rusher with Aldon Smith, that was less than 10 years ago. When was the last time the 49ers had a great LB? Patrick Willis, less than 10 years ago. When was the last the 49ers had a FQB for the next 10+ years? That was 3 decades ago. If there's a FQB for the next 10+ years, you do what it takes to get him.

Originally posted by thl408:
The 49ers had a legitimate pass rusher with Aldon Smith, that was less than 10 years ago. When was the last time the 49ers had a great LB? Patrick Willis, less than 10 years ago. When was the last the 49ers had a FQB for the next 10+ years? That was 3 decades ago. If there's a FQB for the next 10+ years, you do what it takes to get him.

I don't see Wilson as a FQB. He looks like a guy that's getting overhyped as so many QBs do. I could be wrong and he could turn out to be a guy that plays 10 solid years. I just don't see greatness.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by thl408:
The 49ers had a legitimate pass rusher with Aldon Smith, that was less than 10 years ago. When was the last time the 49ers had a great LB? Patrick Willis, less than 10 years ago. When was the last the 49ers had a FQB for the next 10+ years? That was 3 decades ago. If there's a FQB for the next 10+ years, you do what it takes to get him.

I don't see Wilson as a FQB. He looks like a guy that's getting overhyped as so many QBs do. I could be wrong and he could turn out to be a guy that plays 10 solid years. I just don't see greatness.

Agree to disagree and that's okay. There are plenty of twitter highlights in this thread that prove he can make NFL throws. When there is a guy like this available, a team that needs a QB has to do whatever it takes. You don't get guys like RG3, Goff, and Wentz hoping they fall to you, you go and get them. I admire what the Football Team, Rams, and Eagles did to get those guys.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

I don't see Wilson as a FQB. He looks like a guy that's getting overhyped as so many QBs do. I could be wrong and he could turn out to be a guy that plays 10 solid years. I just don't see greatness.

There's a lot of uncertainty like there is with every QB not named Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence is the guy that we've seen perform in every possible situation that you may want to see from a QB. We've seen Lawrence perform well at home, on the road, under constant pressure, in huge games like the National Championship. He's the complete package.


Last night was really the first time we saw Wilson get pressured consistently, get knocked around a few times and he was okay, not great. He made a few great throws, some bad decisions and he really needs to cut out that hurdling nonsense. If he tries that in the NFL some LB is going to break him in two. He's too small to be playing hero ball.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't see Wilson as a FQB. He looks like a guy that's getting overhyped as so many QBs do. I could be wrong and he could turn out to be a guy that plays 10 solid years. I just don't see greatness.

There's a lot of uncertainty like there is with every QB not named Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence is the guy that we've seen perform in every possible situation that you may want to see from a QB. We've seen Lawrence perform well at home, on the road, under constant pressure, in huge games like the National Championship. He's the complete package.

Last night was really the first time we saw Wilson get pressured consistently, get knocked around a few times and he was okay, not great. He made a few great throws, some bad decisions and he really needs to cut out that hurdling nonsense. If he tries that in the NFL some LB is going to break him in two. He's too small to be playing hero ball.

One game doesn't erase all the twitter highlights on this guy. The way he can throw when on the run is like Mahomes. For a second I thought I was watching Mahomes BYU highlights again. Then I remembered that Mahomes didn't play for BYU.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Why would they draft a QB that isn't a good fit for the offense to start with? They don't need someone to "push" Jimmy, they need someone who could credibly replace him and Ridder aint it. He is pretty much the exact opposite of everything that Shanahan prioritizes in a quarterback.

Also there's no real good chance that Jones goes Top 12. He's a nice QB prospect but he's not a physically elite QB talent who goes that high. NFL teams will continue giving him the side eye and doubting him no matter what he does due to the talent around him. He's a 2nd rounder right now IMO and if he balls out and wins a NC then I could see him maybe going in the back third of the first round.

Time will tell buddy!

Originally posted by thl408:

One game doesn't erase all the twitter highlights on this guy. The way he can throw when on the run is like Mahomes. For a second I thought I was watching Mahomes BYU highlights again. Then I remembered that Mahomes didn't play for BYU.

Its about more than just highlights. Not saying that Wilson is the same guy but go look up Jake Locker highlights.





He had some AMAZING highlights. Athletic, with a strong arm, his physical potential was through the roof but he never panned out at the NFL level because he couldn't be consistent enough.


I watched that entire game last night and it was a mixed bag. Physical ability is there. Decision-making is kind of...eh. This was the closest we've seen him be under NFL level pressure and there was a lot of hit and miss. Curious to see him in a bowl game to get a second look versus another quality defense.


I don't need that with Lawrence because we've already seen him prevail under all sorts of conditions. Everything about him translates to the NFL pretty easily. He's got the size, arm, athleticism, pocket presence, ball placement and decision making and he's proven it against the highest levels of competition that college football has to offer which is why he's a lock to go #1.

Originally posted by thl408:
One game doesn't erase all the twitter highlights on this guy. The way he can throw when on the run is like Mahomes. For a second I thought I was watching Mahomes BYU highlights again. Then I remembered that Mahomes didn't play for BYU.

Highlights are exactly that. Highlights. They don't show the bad throws or the poor decisions. It's why I don't care about highlight reels. I like to see what happens on the other plays. Wilson seems like he could be another Baker Mayfield. They are both very competitive and try and make plays when none exist. Baker put up huge numbers in college. Much better than Wilson's. Wilson is a couple inches taller but he's not as thick and weighs less.

So how's Mayfield doing? Just okay. He's learning slowly that he can't run away from guys like he did in college. He's not finding receivers as open as in college. He's getting more pressure than in college. Wilson is going to face the same thing. Neither one of these two played against good defenses very often in college. I see a good chance that Wilson could be a lot like Mayfield in the NFL.