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2021 LBs

Dec 15, 2020 at 9:15 AM
Huge fan of Surratt, he'd be absolutely perfect for this defense. He's got the prerequisite athleticism and football IQ to make him a stud here.
Dec 15, 2020 at 10:05 AM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
LB may not be the top need but if there isn't an O linemen or QB that looks like a good fit when the Niners pick I would consider Surratt. Another good LB can really pump up the defense. He could be used to rush the passer or drop into coverage. That was one of the few areas that stayed relatively healthy this season but there's no question they are thin at that position. If Warner went down they would have a huge hole in the defense.

I second that!
Dec 15, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Would love Surratt, but he will be gone by day 2 and the Niners have more pressing needs elsewhere. Like two bigger dudes to play SLB in Charles Snowden (6'7" 235 lbs) from Virginia and Kuony Deng (6'6'' 250 lbs) from Cal early on day 3 if they are available.
Dec 15, 2020 at 10:24 AM
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Would love Surratt, but he will be gone by day 2 and the Niners have more pressing needs elsewhere. Like two bigger dudes to play SLB in Charles Snowden (6'7" 235 lbs) from Virginia and Kuony Deng (6'6'' 250 lbs) from Cal early on day 3 if they are available.

You're probably right, but if the player they targeted is gone when they pick in round 2 and Surratt has slipped back for some reason, I would take him rather than reach for a QB. That's assuming they got a guard or center in the first round.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Dec 15, 2020 at 11:47 AM ]
Dec 15, 2020 at 1:06 PM
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Like two bigger dudes to play SLB in Charles Snowden (6'7" 235 lbs) from Virginia and Kuony Deng (6'6'' 250 lbs) from Cal early on day 3 if they are available.

Dude, what the hell? Those guys are way too tall to play stack LB in the league. Even Fred Warner at slightly under 6'4" struggles to maintain leverage in run fits.

If the Niners draft a stack LB, it'll be on day 3. They don't need to waste resources for SLB, a position that plays 5 snaps max a game.
[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 15, 2020 at 1:06 PM ]
Dec 16, 2020 at 9:20 AM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Like two bigger dudes to play SLB in Charles Snowden (6'7" 235 lbs) from Virginia and Kuony Deng (6'6'' 250 lbs) from Cal early on day 3 if they are available.

Dude, what the hell? Those guys are way too tall to play stack LB in the league. Even Fred Warner at slightly under 6'4" struggles to maintain leverage in run fits.

If the Niners draft a stack LB, it'll be on day 3. They don't need to waste resources for SLB, a position that plays 5 snaps max a game.

Point taken. Who else would fit the bill for you? Would it be someone like Malcolm Koonce or Patrick Johnson who are also capable of generating pressure as a pass rusher? Or would you add another Dre Greenlaw/Fred Warner clone as a LB/S type hybrid? Just know that the Niners need some depth at this position and likely won't want to invest in it till day 3.
Dec 16, 2020 at 9:23 AM
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Or would you add another Dre Greenlaw/Fred Warner clone as a LB/S type hybrid? Just know that the Niners need some depth at this position and likely won't want to invest in it till day 3.

If Saleh is still here next season, this is exactly what they'll do since all three stack LB positions are interchangeable.


However, if Saleh leaves, we have no idea what will happen. We could get a DC that changes things up.
Dec 16, 2020 at 1:02 PM
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Like two bigger dudes to play SLB in Charles Snowden (6'7" 235 lbs) from Virginia and Kuony Deng (6'6'' 250 lbs) from Cal early on day 3 if they are available.

Dude, what the hell? Those guys are way too tall to play stack LB in the league. Even Fred Warner at slightly under 6'4" struggles to maintain leverage in run fits.

If the Niners draft a stack LB, it'll be on day 3. They don't need to waste resources for SLB, a position that plays 5 snaps max a game.

Point taken. Who else would fit the bill for you? Would it be someone like Malcolm Koonce or Patrick Johnson who are also capable of generating pressure as a pass rusher? Or would you add another Dre Greenlaw/Fred Warner clone as a LB/S type hybrid? Just know that the Niners need some depth at this position and likely won't want to invest in it till day 3.

I think we need another pure interior backer.

Green law plays better on the outside IMO.
[ Edited by Waterbear on Dec 16, 2020 at 1:02 PM ]
Dec 16, 2020 at 1:19 PM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I think we need another pure interior backer.

Green law plays better on the outside IMO.

Surratt would be so perfect due to his versatility, but someone like Paddy Fisher could fill that role behind Warner.
Dec 17, 2020 at 8:03 AM
I really like Surratt..only knock is how narrow he is in his lower half. Won't be available where we look to draft LB anyway.

Some other names:
Baron Browning, tOSU
Jabrill Cox, LSU
Pete Werner, tOSU

Jahad Woods, WSU
Ventrell Miller, Florida
Nick Niemann, Iowa
Feb 2, 2021 at 8:14 AM
Crazy how quickly Micah Parsons has gone from a top 5 prospect, to potentially dropping to the end of the 1st round. Maybe the "Reuben Foster" effect. News coming out about character concerns, a brutal fight with a teammate back in 2018 that the coaches tried to cover up, and some concerns about his passion for football.
Feb 2, 2021 at 8:25 AM
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Crazy how quickly Micah Parsons has gone from a top 5 prospect, to potentially dropping to the end of the 1st round. Maybe the "Reuben Foster" effect. News coming out about character concerns, a brutal fight with a teammate back in 2018 that the coaches tried to cover up, and some concerns about his passion for football.

And also that he's not a top 2 linebacker in this class. That kid from Notre Dame is real nice.
Feb 2, 2021 at 8:28 AM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Crazy how quickly Micah Parsons has gone from a top 5 prospect, to potentially dropping to the end of the 1st round. Maybe the "Reuben Foster" effect. News coming out about character concerns, a brutal fight with a teammate back in 2018 that the coaches tried to cover up, and some concerns about his passion for football.

And also that he's not a top 2 linebacker in this class. That kid from Notre Dame is real nice.

Jeramiah Owusu-Koramoah is that "do it all" linebacker that is proving to be real valuable in today's NFL. Nick Bolton is shooting up draft boards, as well.
Feb 2, 2021 at 10:41 AM
Merlin Robertson is a favorite of mine. He had a very special freshman year and kinda plateaued after that, but looked like a very solid piece on a pretty good defense.
Feb 2, 2021 at 11:56 AM
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by AsianJeff:
Crazy how quickly Micah Parsons has gone from a top 5 prospect, to potentially dropping to the end of the 1st round. Maybe the "Reuben Foster" effect. News coming out about character concerns, a brutal fight with a teammate back in 2018 that the coaches tried to cover up, and some concerns about his passion for football.

And also that he's not a top 2 linebacker in this class. That kid from Notre Dame is real nice.

Jeramiah Owusu-Koramoah is that "do it all" linebacker that is proving to be real valuable in today's NFL. Nick Bolton is shooting up draft boards, as well.

agree
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