Jaelan Phillips-EDGE-Miami

Originally posted by Tony16Gambino:
Jaelan Phillips has a very interesting story plus he is the top pass rusher in this entire draft, and he was probably the top high school player in the country and then he committed to ucla because his family went there and his first game he played well then bad luck with injuries with high ankle sprain and a concussion. Then the next year he had a new coach and he got into a vehicle accident where his wrist got messed up and he eventually had a set back and had another surgery on the wrist and it effected him when he came back to play and then he suffered another concussion that year and ucla basically told him to medically retire from football.
"I had a lot of expectations, both from myself and from people, and getting those injuries .... as an athlete, our body is our asset, so when your body starts to fail you, it's a weird feeling. It derails what you got going on,"Phillips said.
He then focused his school and life on music and then his former coach Jim Mora called him and said are you really done with football because we both know the love you have for football and how talented you are give it another chance and he reformed his body again eating 260 grams of protein a day while working out. He then played really good football last year for Miami displaying all his talent and this kid is just scratching the surface.

It only gets tougher in the NFL. There's going to be more concussions, more broken bones, more torn ligaments, etc. This game is for the alphas, and if you're tapping out at the college level, you've already proven you can be broken.

There's no denying the kid is ultra-talented. But retiring makes him undraftable in my eyes. I can't depend on him not to quit the next time his ears ring, sees stars and doesn't remember what day it is, which is inevitable in this sport. It's the Joe Williams situation. I know why Shanny loved him. He looked like another Jamaal Charles. But he clearly didn't want it, and when he got to the big show, it didn't take much to weed him out. This game breaks you. It gives you a plethora of new excuses to quit every day. You have to want it more than anything. Football is harder than anything out there. The guys who go on to play for a decade-plus are the guys who eat, sleep and breathe football. They'd rather get carted off the field than retire. They live for this s**t.

If he is there in round 2 I take a chance no way he could be a worse pick than pettis was a yrs ago

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Tony16Gambino:

Jaelan Phillips has a very interesting story plus he is the top pass rusher in this entire draft, and he was probably the top high school player in the country and then he committed to ucla because his family went there and his first game he played well then bad luck with injuries with high ankle sprain and a concussion. Then the next year he had a new coach and he got into a vehicle accident where his wrist got messed up and he eventually had a set back and had another surgery on the wrist and it effected him when he came back to play and then he suffered another concussion that year and ucla basically told him to medically retire from football.
"I had a lot of expectations, both from myself and from people, and getting those injuries .... as an athlete, our body is our asset, so when your body starts to fail you, it's a weird feeling. It derails what you got going on,"Phillips said.
He then focused his school and life on music and then his former coach Jim Mora called him and said are you really done with football because we both know the love you have for football and how talented you are give it another chance and he reformed his body again eating 260 grams of protein a day while working out. He then played really good football last year for Miami displaying all his talent and this kid is just scratching the surface.

It only gets tougher in the NFL. There's going to be more concussions, more broken bones, more torn ligaments, etc. This game is for the alphas, and if you're tapping out at the college level, you've already proven you can be broken.

There's no denying the kid is ultra-talented. But retiring makes him undraftable in my eyes. I can't depend on him not to quit the next time his ears ring, sees stars and doesn't remember what day it is, which is inevitable in this sport. It's the Joe Williams situation. I know why Shanny loved him. He looked like another Jamaal Charles. But he clearly didn't want it, and when he got to the big show, it didn't take much to weed him out. This game breaks you. It gives you a plethora of new excuses to quit every day. You have to want it more than anything. Football is harder than anything out there. The guys who go on to play for a decade-plus are the guys who eat, sleep and breathe football. They'd rather get carted off the field than retire. They live for this s**t.

I get your point of view and understand it will be tougher in the national football league but the film doesn't lie and this kid was ranked that high coming out of high school and he proved it last year for a reason. He will be the steal of the draft. He will probably get picked somewhere from 15 to 32. Him and bosa would dominate and wreck shop.

Phillips is the most gifted pass rusher in this year's draft. He has an excellent get-off, he can bend at the top of his rush and he is a finisher.

Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL network even thinks phillips is gonna go pretty high because the film doesn't lie he is that damn good. He has him getting picked at 16 to the cardinals.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Tony16Gambino:

Jaelan Phillips has a very interesting story plus he is the top pass rusher in this entire draft, and he was probably the top high school player in the country and then he committed to ucla because his family went there and his first game he played well then bad luck with injuries with high ankle sprain and a concussion. Then the next year he had a new coach and he got into a vehicle accident where his wrist got messed up and he eventually had a set back and had another surgery on the wrist and it effected him when he came back to play and then he suffered another concussion that year and ucla basically told him to medically retire from football.
"I had a lot of expectations, both from myself and from people, and getting those injuries .... as an athlete, our body is our asset, so when your body starts to fail you, it's a weird feeling. It derails what you got going on,"Phillips said.
He then focused his school and life on music and then his former coach Jim Mora called him and said are you really done with football because we both know the love you have for football and how talented you are give it another chance and he reformed his body again eating 260 grams of protein a day while working out. He then played really good football last year for Miami displaying all his talent and this kid is just scratching the surface.

It only gets tougher in the NFL. There's going to be more concussions, more broken bones, more torn ligaments, etc. This game is for the alphas, and if you're tapping out at the college level, you've already proven you can be broken.

There's no denying the kid is ultra-talented. But retiring makes him undraftable in my eyes. I can't depend on him not to quit the next time his ears ring, sees stars and doesn't remember what day it is, which is inevitable in this sport. It's the Joe Williams situation. I know why Shanny loved him. He looked like another Jamaal Charles. But he clearly didn't want it, and when he got to the big show, it didn't take much to weed him out. [/b]This game breaks you. It gives you a plethora of new excuses to quit every day. You have to want it more than anything. Football is harder than anything out there. The guys who go on to play for a decade-plus are the guys who eat, sleep and breathe football. They'd rather get carted off the field than retire. They live for this s**t.[b]

This makes me think of Colton McKivitz take on his rookie year. It's another level. What you described is what Frank Gore has, what Jerry Rice has, etc. With that said if for some crazy reason this guy drops, at what point would you take him?

After Joe Williams and the fact that Lynch had him off the board, yet Shanahan pushed him to draft the guy, I don't think Phillips is on our radar. Its ashame because our pass rush could've been unreal again.

So wait- this kid is in play at 12?

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So wait- this kid is in play at 12?

No chance. I don't think he'll even be on the 49ers' board after their experience with Joe Williams. Retiring is a dealbreaker. It's a shame because Phillips is super talented, but he can't be depended on. It feels like every year there's some wacko edge rusher with a lot of talent but off-field issues.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This makes me think of Colton McKivitz take on his rookie year. It's another level. What you described is what Frank Gore has, what Jerry Rice has, etc. With that said if for some crazy reason this guy drops, at what point would you take him?

After Joe Williams and the fact that Lynch had him off the board, yet Shanahan pushed him to draft the guy, I don't think Phillips is on our radar. Its ashame because our pass rush could've been unreal again.

Day 3.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

So wait- this kid is in play at 12?

No chance. I don't think he'll even be on the 49ers' board after their experience with Joe Williams. Retiring is a dealbreaker. It's a shame because Phillips is super talented, but he can't be depended on. It feels like every year there's some wacko edge rusher with a lot of talent but off-field issues.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

This makes me think of Colton McKivitz take on his rookie year. It's another level. What you described is what Frank Gore has, what Jerry Rice has, etc. With that said if for some crazy reason this guy drops, at what point would you take him?

After Joe Williams and the fact that Lynch had him off the board, yet Shanahan pushed him to draft the guy, I don't think Phillips is on our radar. Its ashame because our pass rush could've been unreal again.

Day 3.

Yeah no way I touch that.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So wait- this kid is in play at 12?

Jaelan phillips is edge 1 in this draft and he is just scratching the surface on his potential.
I think even with his injury history on his talent alone he will go in the 1st rd and then after his pro day he will probably get pushed up into the top 15 picks.

ESPN NFL Draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. released his first 2021 mock draft for the first round last week and two Miami Hurricanes edge rushers, Jaelan Phillips and Gregory Rousseau, made the projection.
Kiper projects Phillips to be selected by the Las Vegas Raiders with the No. 17 overall pick.

Here is what Kiper writes about that pick:

"This is a strange draft in that there are no dominant pass-rushers. Phillips could be the top edge prospect, and I have only a mid-first-round grade on him. But he had a dominant season for the Hurricanes after transferring from UCLA, where he had ended his career due to concussion issues. The former five-star prospect missed the 2019 season and then ended up at Miami, where he had 5.5 sacks in his final three games. Depending on his medical checks, Phillips could rise even higher.

Originally posted by Capone:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So wait- this kid is in play at 12?

Jaelan phillips is edge 1 in this draft and he is just scratching the surface on his potential.
I think even with his injury history on his talent alone he will go in the 1st rd and then after his pro day he will probably get pushed up into the top 15 picks.

I don't want that much risk with our top pick. It reminds me of Arik from ability questions alone. Never mind the off the field flags.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So wait- this kid is in play at 12?

No chance. I don't think he'll even be on the 49ers' board after their experience with Joe Williams. Retiring is a dealbreaker. It's a shame because Phillips is super talented, but he can't be depended on. It feels like every year there's some wacko edge rusher with a lot of talent but off-field issues.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This makes me think of Colton McKivitz take on his rookie year. It's another level. What you described is what Frank Gore has, what Jerry Rice has, etc. With that said if for some crazy reason this guy drops, at what point would you take him?

After Joe Williams and the fact that Lynch had him off the board, yet Shanahan pushed him to draft the guy, I don't think Phillips is on our radar. Its ashame because our pass rush could've been unreal again.

Day 3.

I disagree with you I think phillips will deffiently be drafted in the 1st rd and probably go in the top 15 picks once the NFL watches his film and then after his pro day he will move up on a lot of draft boards. Good and talented pass rushers get moved up draft boards. Don't we forget when we took aldon Smith with a top 10 pick and everybody though he would go in the middle or late 1st rd so it will probably happen again. Plus the niners short history under shanahan tells us they will go defense line and they won't draft a cb early because in this scheme it's not needed.

Originally posted by Capone:
I disagree with you I think phillips will deffiently be drafted in the 1st rd and probably go in the top 15 picks once the NFL watches his film and then after his pro day he will move up on a lot of draft boards. Good and talented pass rushers get moved up draft boards. Don't we forget when we took aldon Smith with a top 10 pick and everybody though he would go in the middle or late 1st rd so it will probably happen again. Plus the niners short history under shanahan tells us they will go defense line and they won't draft a cb early because in this scheme it's not needed.

You're the dude that plagiarized in the Kwity Paye thread, aren't you lol.

I never said he wouldn't do in the 1st round, so I'm not sure what you're disagreeing about. I said the 49ers shouldn't touch him, which is what they'll likely do. We don't need any more quitters.

There's a big difference between his 2 month retirement and Joe Williams'. Williams retired because of depression and his heart wasn't in it. Phillips was worried about permanent brain damage leading to a short life. His love for the game brought him back. My only concern with him is if he's over the concussion issues. If he's there at 43 and we didn't get a pass rusher in the 1st then they better run up to the podium to pick him.