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Kwity Paye-EDGE/DL-Michigan

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9moon:
CAN someone show Phoenix the same SOLOMON highlight.. he's getting the wrong idea again of Paye..

He's beginning to see this guy as Aaron instead of Solomon...

How about you do it? Go ahead, break down the plays,show us exactly where you see him looking like Solomon Thomas and how their skillsets are in anyway similar?


Sorry I just woke up... ANYHOWWWWW !!!

Go find Solomon's highlight against UCLA or UNC.. Tha'll help you.. A LOT !!
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9moon:
CAN someone show Phoenix the same SOLOMON highlight.. he's getting the wrong idea again of Paye..

He's beginning to see this guy as Aaron instead of Solomon...

How about you do it? Go ahead, break down the plays,show us exactly where you see him looking like Solomon Thomas and how their skillsets are in anyway similar?


Sorry I just woke up... ANYHOWWWWW !!!

Go find Solomon's highlight against UCLA or UNC.. Tha'll help you.. A LOT !!

he asked you to breakdown plays and show us exactly where you see him looking like Solly? Show the similar skillsets...
Originally posted by NYniner85:



That's 272 lbs of beef--no flab--exploding and bending.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 21, 2021 at 12:49 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9moon:
CAN someone show Phoenix the same SOLOMON highlight.. he's getting the wrong idea again of Paye..

He's beginning to see this guy as Aaron instead of Solomon...

How about you do it? Go ahead, break down the plays,show us exactly where you see him looking like Solomon Thomas and how their skillsets are in anyway similar?

He's too busy coming up with cute nicknames for all the players to watch their film.




Originally posted by Heroism:



Omfg. An athletic freak and showing signs of passrush moves on film??

Dude is gonna shoot up draft boards.
Originally posted by Heroism:



Good lord
Originally posted by Heroism:



Wow.

Want.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I feel responsible as I made the comment that he reminds me of Thomas. What I meant was that he's the best "edge" in a terrible class. If you draft him you would be purely for drafting his position and not for his ability compared to the rest of the potential selections at 12.

Another reason I think he's similar to Thomas is that his traits wouldn't all translate to the next level. I don't think he will have anything close to success like he did in that Minnesota game in the NFL. His hands are okay and he's not as explosive as I assumed he would be with the hype he's getting. Paye plays horizontally most of the time like Thomas, which is not what you want from a true pass rusher.

2 sacks in 2020 and people acting like he would produce like Ford when he was on the field. I just don't see it at all.

Thomas wasn't close to being the best edge, his athleticism at his size was a major + but he had never played on the edge before so it came down to a lot of projection where Paye has already played a ton out on the edge. I don't agree that his traits won't translate to the next level, he's already shown a very nice pass rushing repertoire, he clearly has the power and athleticism to go with the skills. His athleticism absolutely blows Thomas out of the water. He's also clearly put in a ton of work with the improvement he showed this past season.

As far as sacks, it'd be nice if he had more production there but his QB pressures numbers were pretty outstanding. That is one part of the Brandon Graham comparison. Paye didn't have a lot of sacks but he was getting into the backfield consistently against a wide variety of opponents. If he all he does is just rack up a ton of QB pressures at the NFL level, Kinlaw and Bosa would both feast.
Objective analysis by Voch. Kwity is ready to go out of the gate as a run defender. He's just scratching the surface as a pass rusher. Teams draft traits, and Kwity is oozing with traits.

[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 21, 2021 at 2:32 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I feel responsible as I made the comment that he reminds me of Thomas. What I meant was that he's the best "edge" in a terrible class. If you draft him you would be purely for drafting his position and not for his ability compared to the rest of the potential selections at 12.

Another reason I think he's similar to Thomas is that his traits wouldn't all translate to the next level. I don't think he will have anything close to success like he did in that Minnesota game in the NFL. His hands are okay and he's not as explosive as I assumed he would be with the hype he's getting. Paye plays horizontally most of the time like Thomas, which is not what you want from a true pass rusher.

2 sacks in 2020 and people acting like he would produce like Ford when he was on the field. I just don't see it at all.

Thomas wasn't close to being the best edge, his athleticism at his size was a major + but he had never played on the edge before so it came down to a lot of projection where Paye has already played a ton out on the edge. I don't agree that his traits won't translate to the next level, he's already shown a very nice pass rushing repertoire, he clearly has the power and athleticism to go with the skills. His athleticism absolutely blows Thomas out of the water. He's also clearly put in a ton of work with the improvement he showed this past season.

As far as sacks, it'd be nice if he had more production there but his QB pressures numbers were pretty outstanding. That is one part of the Brandon Graham comparison. Paye didn't have a lot of sacks but he was getting into the backfield consistently against a wide variety of opponents. If he all he does is just rack up a ton of QB pressures at the NFL level, Kinlaw and Bosa would both feast.

Not only did Thomas play on the edge, he was being pumped up as a Michael Bennet type by analysts and posters on this forum. It's hindsight to say he wasn't the best edge prospect when everyone considered him to be able to produce there even if that wasn't his main strength. That was evident in the way we used him early on and why he was selected so high.



There's no argument from me saying Paye is a much better player. He is no doubt about it. But he's similar to Thomas in that you're staring some blue chip prospects at corner and tackle while he is just meh to me. Selecting him would be a similar mistake.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

The bottom left of the vid.... dude in the sports top... McGlinchey??
Originally posted by Waterbear:

There's no argument from me saying Paye is a much better player. He is no doubt about it. But he's similar to Thomas in that you're staring some blue chip prospects at corner and tackle while he is just meh to me. Selecting him would be a similar mistake.

I think the strongest argument against Paye for the 49ers is that they just used a first on Kinlaw. Kinlaw is a work in progress, and I don't know if it's the best approach for the 49ers should be using first-round picks on a player who isn't in the exact boat as Kinlaw but is similar in that he still needs more seasoning.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 21, 2021 at 2:33 PM ]
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