QB need teams ahead of us in draft

IMO there are 5 first round QBs and I'm just about convinced the 49ers will need to trade up from #12 if they want to get a QB in the first round. I'm thinking all 5 QBs may go before the 49ers pick at #12. Yes 5!!!! Those 5 Qbs are Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Zack Wilson, Trey Lance, and Mac Jones. You may not agree they will all go in the top 12 but take a look at the 11 teams ahead of us and my reasoning of why they need a new QB.

I know most of you probably don't think Mac Jones is worthy of a top 12 pick but I think you can agree he is probably going in the first round at this point. I think he is more pro ready then Wilson and Lance and I think he fits the QB profile Shanny seems to like. I'm not saying he's our guy, all I'm saying is he has some tools NFL head coaches covet.

Lets take a look at the teams ahead of us:

1. Jaguars – Need a QB (Should be Trevor Lawrence)
2. Jets - New coach coming in. They could roll with Darnold but picking at #2 and being in a position to have your choice of QB would be too hard to pass up IMO (I predict Fields or Wilson here). If Darnold does improve they can always trade the QB they drafted later on for a decent pick. But do they want to put all their eggs in the Darnold basket? They can also trade this pick which means someone is moving up for a QB
3. Dolphins – Way too early to give up on Tua. I think they pick the LT out of Oregon if he is there or they trade down.
4. Falcons – They will be in a rebuild with a new coach. If they admit they are in a rebuild they would be smart to trade Matt Ryan while he still has trade value now. If they trade Ryan they will be looking for their next QB. They could also take a guy like Trey Lance who isn't NFL ready and let him sit behind Ryan for a year or so.
5. Bengals – They are one of the few teams in the top 12 that don't need a QB. They are in a good position to draft one of the top 1-3 players (non QB) in the draft or they can trade down and get more draft capita.
6. Eagles – Pederson is gone but they still have a mess at QB. Wentz salary will be too much to trade or release so I think they are stuck with Wentz and Hurts. New coach will probably let the 2 QBs compete in camp. Either way they probably can't afford to draft another QB so no QB here unless they trade out
7. Lions – Similar situation as the Falcons. They should trade Stafford while they can and commit to the rebuild or draft Trey Lance and sit behind Stafford
8. Panthers – Teddy Bridgewater isn't their franchise QB. If they fall in love with a QB they will not hesitate to take one
9. Broncos – Lock isn't the answer. They need a QB
10. Cowboys – They only need a QB if they don't resign Dak
11. Giants – They are a wildcard. Daniel Jones has shown some flashes of what he could be but has also has shown some bad things. They could continue to build a good team around him and hope he improves much like Josh Allen did. Hard to say what they will do. A lot of fans are ready to move on I do know that.

So we have 2 teams (Jags & Broncos) that absolutely can't go into the 2021 season with their current QB. However you have 5 teams (Jets, Falcons, Lions, Panthers, Giants) who can make a very strong argument why they need to draft a QB which brings the total to 7 teams ahead of us who I think should get a QB.

Thoughts?

The Falcons will find it very hard to shift Ryan's contract, and they will eat a ton of dead money, may as well keep him.

Giants won't go QB unless they fire Gettleman, far too stubborn, plus with no 4 year starters on the board none fit his (Parcells') model.

Eagles it depends who they hire, they could suggest they can fix Wentz and blame the regression on losing Reich, or go with Hurts.

Lions is interesting as it depends on Stafford, does he want to win in Detroit and ride it out? They as well eat a ton of dead money.

Panthers I have no idea, I'd take one, but they seem to want to build a nest, need to fix that O-Line.

Broncos absolutely should, but they could look for a veteran and keep building a Fangio D.

Jags picking Lawrence is the easiest #1 pick in a long time.

I'm saying there's a chance

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
The Falcons will find it very hard to shift Ryan's contract, and they will eat a ton of dead money, may as well keep him.

Giants won't go QB unless they fire Gettleman, far too stubborn, plus with no 4 year starters on the board none fit his (Parcells') model.

Eagles it depends who they hire, they could suggest they can fix Wentz and blame the regression on losing Reich, or go with Hurts.

Lions is interesting as it depends on Stafford, does he want to win in Detroit and ride it out? They as well eat a ton of dead money.

Panthers I have no idea, I'd take one, but they seem to want to build a nest, need to fix that O-Line.

Broncos absolutely should, but they could look for a veteran and keep building a Fangio D.

Jags picking Lawrence is the easiest #1 pick in a long time.

I'm saying there's a chance

Thoughts on Jets?

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

The Falcons will find it very hard to shift Ryan's contract, and they will eat a ton of dead money, may as well keep him.

Giants won't go QB unless they fire Gettleman, far too stubborn, plus with no 4 year starters on the board none fit his (Parcells') model.

Eagles it depends who they hire, they could suggest they can fix Wentz and blame the regression on losing Reich, or go with Hurts.

Lions is interesting as it depends on Stafford, does he want to win in Detroit and ride it out? They as well eat a ton of dead money.

Panthers I have no idea, I'd take one, but they seem to want to build a nest, need to fix that O-Line.

Broncos absolutely should, but they could look for a veteran and keep building a Fangio D.

Jags picking Lawrence is the easiest #1 pick in a long time.

I'm saying there's a chance

Thoughts on Jets?

I think it would be wise for them to trade down to another QB hungry team.

I was in the minority a month ago about 6 QB's going in the 1st... it will happen. I agree 5 go in the top 15, I am wildly excited at the option of trading for Watson right now, other wise its sitting at 12 if Mac is there take him to sit for a year behind Jimmy and hope Jimmy helps his trade value or even better wins us a superbowl and ride out his contract. Wilson is a pipe dream and will be QB2 by the end of the draft process.

Jaguars
Jets
Falcons
Panthers
Denver

all taking a quarterback

It bodes well if you are a Jimmy G fan. There will be some good prospects falling.

If QBs start going early, they should look at EDGE and CB. Jaycee Horn might be their guy since the Niners love South Carolina

Just because a QB is available doesn't mean a team is going to take it.

They still have to like the QB that's available.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Thoughts on Jets?

It's a tough call, as it's very easy to just blame Gase and the lack of weapons.

I think they cut bait, the 5th year option looms, and they take whoever they prefer out of Fields and Wilson IMO.

I think it'll be interesting to see if the coaching hire has any bearing or if Douglas has already made up his mind.

On a side note, I can see Saleh getting this job and taking Lafluer. I think apart from the Chargers job it would probably be their next best landing spot.

Jags
Jets
Carolina
Denver

They take the top 4 prospects. So we either have to roll with Jimmy G spot or try to trade for Watson or Stafford. That is all

Originally posted by elguapo:
Jags
Jets
Carolina
Denver

They take the top 4 prospects. So we either have to roll with Jimmy G spot or try to trade for Watson or Stafford. That is all

Carolina and Denver are 8 and 9. We might be willing to hop up that far. I would.

Nice post.

Problem with trading this big time QBs is the salary implications and the cap dropping for the first time. I think the Falcons should let Julio and Matty Ice finish their careers there, but they can't afford anyone else. Julio get's traded before Ryan in my opinion. Falcons had trash running backs that looked good in fantasy because Gurley had a bunch of goal line touch downs early. I don't know the true cap implications though of releasing/trading either of them.

Lions absolutely need a pass rusher. If they can't get a good edge in free to pair with Flowers, whom is probably better rushing the passer from the interior in pass rush situations, I absolutely expect them to take the best one available. I like them keeping Stafford and drafting whoever falls either in the 2nd, or via trade up into the end of the first.

Dolphins and Bengals are both in the same situation, where they need to build the offensive lines to protect their franchise quarterbacks.

Jets are a huge wildcard until we figure out who their coaching staff will be. I don't like Darnold very much, so I would expect them to replace him unless BPA is too good to pass up. Trade down is possible.

Steelers and Patriots both need QBs, and are candidates to trade up.

Just a few of my thoughts to compliment yous. :)

IMO, it doesn't matter how many Teams Drafting before us need a QB, it is entirely dependent upon how many QB's are projected by ALL Teams to be worthy of selection before pick #12.

QB needy Teams will move up in the Draft if they think it's worthwhile.

Originally posted by socal9er42:

IMO, it doesn't matter how many Teams Drafting before us need a QB, it is entirely dependent upon how many QB's are projected by ALL Teams to be worthy of selection before pick #12.

QB needy Teams will move up in the Draft if they think it's worthwhile.

Interesting, but don't forget that different teams value different things, I think the big 3 of Lawrence, Fields & Wilson would be on every teams wishlist who didn't have a franchise QB in place.

For me after that it comes down to willingness to take a chance, be that on the lack of tools of a Mac Jones or the raw inexperience of Trey Lance.

Honestly if we like a guy, we're going to trade up for them. When it comes to qbs its rare when a team gets one that just falls to their lap, a lot of the time when a qb is picked, its a trade up. Unless its a top 2 pick and its qb needy teams.

The jags should and will get trevor. Just don't mess up his career please.

The jets will entirely depend on their HC imo. I can see the jets trying to do darnold right and maybe giving him up to a stable environment (like pitt, maybe us) to give him a chance at a good career and start all over and get fields or Wilson.

The dolphins are a wildcard. I think its a mistake if they give up on tua too early. He is a year removed from a serious hip injury. Give him another year and a healthy and a relatively normal offseason with otas, mini camps, and a normal TC and see where he goes from there.

The falcons should go BPA. Matt Ryan is still a good qb thats held back by bad defense, subpar running game, and terrible coaching. They just need stability. It would be a mistake going qb this year for them.

Bengals. They got burrow, he's a stud. Draft ol for his sake Cindy.

Eagles will have a new coach so who knows. But roseman is still their gm so I doubt they will move on from hurts. Wentz? We will see.

Lions should be arrested for murdering Staffords underrated career. They need to finally get a good coach for him, and protection. If they're smart they get bpa, but they're a candidate to get a qb cause new gm and new coach.

Panthers are a legit threat at a qb. Bridewater is a bridge qb. I think we would have to trade over them to snag our qb.

Broncos need a qb. Lock is unimpressive and I dont see a future with him. Elway is possibly the worst qb evaluator in scouting history.

Cowboys have dak. I think he is a fantastic qb. Jerry stop messing around and sign the guy. Or else someone else will and you will look a fool.

I am not a Daniel Jones fan. I think he commits way too many turnovers and I still question his upside. But I also don't think he has an amazing supporting cast around him. Let's see with a healthy saquon and get some protection and receivers.


Its actually a little concerning how almost all of these teams are legit candidates for needing a qb. We have to trade up if we want our guy.

The way I see it is. There's only three guys I'd trade up for; Lawrence, Fields, and Wilson.

If one of those guys fall past pick 5, I'm okay doing a mini trade up with the Eagles or the Lions since it will take compensation, but not that much. Mostly to get in front of Carolina, who I think will be taking a QB

Trading up into the top 5 is really tricky though. I don't think I'm willing to give up that much for one player.

49ers fans overrate this roster. This was a Superbowl team last year, but after many coaching changes and players leaving, they need those draft picks to restock the toolshed.

The worst scenario for this team is Lawrence to Jags, Fields to Jets, and Zach Wilson to the Falcons. Then you're just hoping Lance falls to your pick. As much as I like Lance, I dunno if I'd trade up a boat load of picks for him to hope and pray hes the next Josh Allen, personally speaking. If he falls to our pick, I'd take him at pick 12 under the presumption that Garappolo will be under center in 2021