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49ers acquire No. 3 pick in 2021 NFL draft from Miami

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
They didn't give up much at all. Two first round picks for moving from #12 to #3 for presumably a franchise QB, that's nothing. I don't even count the 3rd as part of the trade. The 3rd was a compensatory pick for losing a coach we would lost either way.

Also, those picks will most likely be late first anyways. This might have been as close as the 9ers were going to get to franchise QB in a while, so you shoot your shot.

Imagine giving up two 1st rounders, a 3rd, and a starting safety for a blitzing safety.

Solid post! Damn Seagulls got plucked huh!? Lol
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
They didn't give up much at all. Two first round picks for moving from #12 to #3 for presumably a franchise QB, that's nothing. I don't even count the 3rd as part of the trade. The 3rd was a compensatory pick for losing a coach we would lost either way.

Also, those picks will most likely be late first anyways. This might have been as close as the 9ers were going to get to franchise QB in a while, so you shoot your shot.

Imagine giving up two 1st rounders, a 3rd, and a starting safety for a blitzing safety.

Solid post! Damn Seagulls got plucked huh!? Lol

They were bent over. Now they have to pay him top money. And he can't cover to save his life lmao
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by strickac:
Saleh was at Wilson's Pro Day, so I don't think you can rule the Jets out drafting a QB. I think Lynch is close comfortable with 2 guys... Wilson or Lance.

Not sure why Fields is getting ruled out in this scenario.

I'm just not that high on Fields. From a throwing perspective I don't think he has gives us a bump above Jimmy. Lance and Wilson look like they have the talent to be better passers.

All three can run circles around Jimmy, which will help express drives. Looking forward to that aspect for sure.

Fields will probably running for his life in Denver.
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by titan:
I don't know much about Lance...but Fields is a 2nd or 3rd Rounder for me.

Wow! What makes you think that? Fields would have been a Day 2 pick stepping out of High School if the rules allowed it.

He is an outstanding athlete! A man amongst kids in college. I think his superior athleticism advantage will even out in NFL, but will still be a solid starter. I'm just a spoiled 80's kid looking for my next Joe and Steve!!!
Amazing that Lynch was able to move from #12 to #3! We're gonna get a star for sure. The last time he picked #3 he selected...oh wait nevermind...
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
That's a lot to give up to draft Mac Jones.

It would be worth it.
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Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Amazing that Lynch was able to move from #12 to #3! We're gonna get a star for sure. The last time he picked #3 he selected...oh wait nevermind...

Hahahahaha
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Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
They didn't give up much at all. Two first round picks for moving from #12 to #3 for presumably a franchise QB, that's nothing. I don't even count the 3rd as part of the trade. The 3rd was a compensatory pick for losing a coach we would lost either way.

Also, those picks will most likely be late first anyways. This might have been as close as the 9ers were going to get to franchise QB in a while, so you shoot your shot.

Imagine giving up two 1st rounders, a 3rd, and a starting safety for a blitzing safety.

Solid post! Damn Seagulls got plucked huh!? Lol

The problem with this logic is that you assume that whoever we get is a guaranteed star. What is the success rate on top 5 QB? Maybe 50% and that doesn't even guarantee someone better than JG. So, if everything works, you are right. A star is worth the extra picks. If he fails, we will be in draft purgatory for the next few years.
Originally posted by strickac:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by strickac:
Saleh was at Wilson's Pro Day, so I don't think you can rule the Jets out drafting a QB. I think Lynch is close comfortable with 2 guys... Wilson or Lance.

Not sure why Fields is getting ruled out in this scenario.

I'm just not that high on Fields. From a throwing perspective I don't think he has gives us a bump above Jimmy. Lance and Wilson look like they have the talent to be better passers.

All three can run circles around Jimmy, which will help express drives. Looking forward to that aspect for sure.

Fields will probably running for his life in Denver.

What are you watching?

Fields is the best thrower in the class for me when you combine the accuracy with the velocity.

Zach Wilson has the arm angles and playmaking, with a better release, so is probably the best natural thrower.
Originally posted by JMC52:
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Amazing that Lynch was able to move from #12 to #3! We're gonna get a star for sure. The last time he picked #3 he selected...oh wait nevermind...

Hahahahaha

He can right his wrong by trading to number 2 and choosing zach wilson. This will break the curse of Solomon Thomas.
wilson might fall to us at 3, Jets GM is a dumbass that believes in Darnold
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Who else is happy they don't have to pay attention to the Watson saga anymore?

Amen, man. What a mess.I want a franchise QB with his talent that loves the game enough to conduct themselves appropriately.
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Originally posted by fryet:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
They didn't give up much at all. Two first round picks for moving from #12 to #3 for presumably a franchise QB, that's nothing. I don't even count the 3rd as part of the trade. The 3rd was a compensatory pick for losing a coach we would lost either way.

Also, those picks will most likely be late first anyways. This might have been as close as the 9ers were going to get to franchise QB in a while, so you shoot your shot.

Imagine giving up two 1st rounders, a 3rd, and a starting safety for a blitzing safety.

Solid post! Damn Seagulls got plucked huh!? Lol

The problem with this logic is that you assume that whoever we get is a guaranteed star. What is the success rate on top 5 QB? Maybe 50% and that doesn't even guarantee someone better than JG. So, if everything works, you are right. A star is worth the extra picks. If he fails, we will be in draft purgatory for the next few years.

Well if #3 QB pick busts, thank god you still have a decent QB in Jimmy and another top ten pick in Rosen to pick up the slack.

I think when Solomon was picked, there was no Bosa, Ford, or Kinlaw and he was the sole guy to carry the load, and he couldn't. ShanaLynch has been doing good work on the drafts since 2017. Yeah #3 pick could be a QB bust, but hopefully he'll be a better backup QB than Mullens or BeatHard, I think if that's the case, it might still be a serviceable win, versus a total loss.
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by strickac:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by strickac:
Saleh was at Wilson's Pro Day, so I don't think you can rule the Jets out drafting a QB. I think Lynch is close comfortable with 2 guys... Wilson or Lance.

Not sure why Fields is getting ruled out in this scenario.

I'm just not that high on Fields. From a throwing perspective I don't think he has gives us a bump above Jimmy. Lance and Wilson look like they have the talent to be better passers.

All three can run circles around Jimmy, which will help express drives. Looking forward to that aspect for sure.

Fields will probably running for his life in Denver.

What are you watching?

Fields is the best thrower in the class for me when you combine the accuracy with the velocity.

Zach Wilson has the arm angles and playmaking, with a better release, so is probably the best natural thrower.

Imo Fields has the nicest deep ball since Russel Wilson. Kid has an ARM.
Originally posted by fryet:
The problem with this logic is that you assume that whoever we get is a guaranteed star. What is the success rate on top 5 QB? Maybe 50% and that doesn't even guarantee someone better than JG. So, if everything works, you are right. A star is worth the extra picks. If he fails, we will be in draft purgatory for the next few years.

Dont forget most top 5 qbs are being picked by bad teams. Jax and NYJ aren't established with leaders and playmakers. They have so many questions that your success rate makes them more vulnerable to destroy a top pick. The Jets already ruined Darnold. We could make the argument that Chicago did the same to Trubisky. We have no idea what would have happened to Mahomes if he was picked by Cleveland that year.

Not saying we can't bust at #3 but your analysis of success rate ignores the team and system that's drafting the qb.
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