The Fatal Fourway: Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Jones; Enter and declare your allegiance!

I want Wilson - if not give me Fields.

Shane Falco

Wilson - most likely a jet
Fields

Lance

Jones

It's wild to me how some "experts" speculated Jones could slip to the early 2nd round... now he might go #3 overall.

Originally posted by Joecool:
We are thinking about this all wrong.

What is our record with JG?
What is our record without him?

What if we had two of them? One gets hurt and we replace him with his twin? What happens to our record? No dip.

We drafting Jones.

I was hoping Fields or Lance, but yeah the more I learn about the three and listen to Chris Simms who is kyles buddy - very clear from the Monday press conference too. It looks like Jones. I really was looking forward to seeing Steve Young 2.0 (Lance or Fields ) man o man I'm kind of bummed out.

Fields ALL day ! Jones is a smoke screen !!!!! Wilson is going to the Jets. !!!!! We are GOOD ! f**k yeah !!!!! go 9ers !!!!!

My non scientific, optimistically cynical comps for each QB:

Wilson = Cutler
Fields = Cam
Lance = Kaepernick
Jones = Dalton

I like Lance a lot

Originally posted by FiftyNiner:
I like Lance a lot

Lance is project with high ceiling, how many times have those types of QB's panned out? Not many. People want to knock Fields and Jones because they had outstanding players around them. Well so did Lance, in his case even better. North Dakota State is the Alabama of Division 1 FCS, they are 62-4 in the last 5 years! To me it's Wilson and Fields, that's it!

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by FiftyNiner:
I like Lance a lot

Lance is project with high ceiling, how many times have those types of QB's panned out? Not many. People want to knock Fields and Jones because they had outstanding players around them. Well so did Lance, in his case even better. North Dakota State is the Alabama of Division 1 FCS, they are 62-4 in the last 5 years! To me it's Wilson and Fields, that's it!

Fair enough,I would be ok with either of those picks.

Lance is certainly a high risk pick, but also incredibly high ceiling. I'm hoping Kyle is thinking we're in a position where we could take such a risk in the pursuit of greatness. We have Jimmy signed, which means we can still win while we're developing the qb of the future.

Yes Lance didn't face the same level of competition, that's a concern for sure. On the other hand, Wilson is unlikely to be there for us, and I was concerned by a post I saw that showed Fields had poor stats when pressured, surprising since in theory his athleticism would enable him to turn pressures into explosives, as we've seen so many times with the better mobile NFL qb's, something the Niners have been lacking, Kyle seems to prioritize building offensive lines for run blocking more than for pass protection, and we did nothing to improve the pass protection problems on the right side of our line, so our qb is likely to be facing a lot of pressures. What a qb does when faced with qb pressures is one of the things that separates the great ones from the others.

Fields may not have a problem handling qb pressures, I've only seen that one post about it and only watched a couple of his games, he was amazing in one of them, but the stats in that post (I'd quote it if I could find it) were a red flag.

And I forget what Lance's stats were under pressure, plus he hasn't faced the fury of NFL D lines or anything close to it, so I could be wrong about Lance, but I think we're positioned to take a shot at the highest possible upside, and since Lawrence and Fields are unlikely to be available at #3, I'd pick Lance. Hopefully not Jones, I'm not convinced he'll be better than Jimmy.

Originally posted by FiftyNiner:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by FiftyNiner:
I like Lance a lot

Lance is project with high ceiling, how many times have those types of QB's panned out? Not many. People want to knock Fields and Jones because they had outstanding players around them. Well so did Lance, in his case even better. North Dakota State is the Alabama of Division 1 FCS, they are 62-4 in the last 5 years! To me it's Wilson and Fields, that's it!

Fair enough,I would be ok with either of those picks.

Lance is certainly a high risk pick, but also incredibly high ceiling. I'm hoping Kyle is thinking we're in a position where we could take such a risk in the pursuit of greatness. We have Jimmy signed, which means we can still win while we're developing the qb of the future.

Yes Lance didn't face the same level of competition, that's a concern for sure. On the other hand, Wilson is unlikely to be there for us, and I was concerned by a post I saw that showed Fields had poor stats when pressured, surprising since in theory his athleticism would enable him to turn pressures into explosives, as we've seen so many times with the better mobile NFL qb's, something the Niners have been lacking, Kyle seems to prioritize building offensive lines for run blocking more than for pass protection, and we did nothing to improve the pass protection problems on the right side of our line, so our qb is likely to be facing a lot of pressures. What a qb does when faced with qb pressures is one of the things that separates the great ones from the others.

Fields may not have a problem handling qb pressures, I've only seen that one post about it and only watched a couple of his games, he was amazing in one of them, but the stats in that post (I'd quote it if I could find it) were a red flag.

And I forget what Lance's stats were under pressure, plus he hasn't faced the fury of NFL D lines or anything close to it, so I could be wrong about Lance, but I think we're positioned to take a shot at the highest possible upside, and since Lawrence and Fields are unlikely to be available at #3, I'd pick Lance. Hopefully not Jones, I'm not convinced he'll be better than Jimmy.

While Lance didn't face NFL quality Dlines he also didn't have NFL quality protection on his Oline or NFL quality receivers to throw to either. He was the difference maker on his team.

Compare that to guys like Fields and Jones who played on teams loaded with NFL talent.

Anyone but Jones! Well, has to be named either Wilson, Fields or Lance!

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
My non scientific, optimistically cynical comps for each QB:

Wilson = Cutler
Fields = Cam
Lance = Kaepernick
Jones = Dalton

mine:
Wilson = Mahomes
Fields = Russell Wilson
Lance = Watson
Jones = Trash

It truly is a mystery who we're going to draft. Going off the assumption that Lawrence and Wilson go 1 and 2, I have no idea what Kyle wants at 3. My heart wants Fields, my head is telling me it's going to be Lance... but with how Kyle has talked about quarterbacks I cant help but think itll be Jones.

All i know is that if it Jones, hes going to have a lot of pressure on him to be great immediately.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Shane Falco

We didn't really give up two future firsts. We gave up two future early 2nds because we gonna be picking 32!!

as for Jones vs Fields. You don't race a Bugatti with an inexperienced racer. SF offense is a Bugatti. Wouldn't be optimizing it's track time with an unpolished racer.

mack Jones is ready to drive it now.