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Where would you be willing to draft Najee Harris?
Where would you be willing to draft Najee Harris?
Apr 6, 2021 at 7:57 AM
- TTown9ers
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1st round RBs aren't worth the cost
Apr 6, 2021 at 7:58 AM
- ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Harris could be the big durable back they don't have. He's a good receiver and could carry the ball 15020 times with Mostert giving therm the breakaway option. Harris could be a lot like Beastmode in the NFL.
Twake over the Coleman role pounding it between the tackles. Just another look for the right match ups
Apr 6, 2021 at 8:05 AM
- gold49digger
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Originally posted by TTown9ers:
1st round RBs aren't worth the cost
Usually. But we have a really great roster with too much draft picks for our roster. I would not be surprised if we liked Harris that much. Kyle said awhile back that if he thought a rb was dynamic, like saquon was, it would be worth that pick. Unless they fall in love with a corner, if we traded up im willing to bet that it's for Harris. I'm going with my theory that kyle going to bamas pro day is for Harris while under the guise that we are looking at Mac.
Apr 6, 2021 at 8:38 AM
- SammyFrancisco
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The fact that "3rd or later" is in last place in this poll is a disconcerting reflection on the WZ
It doesn't matter who the RB is, a RB is NEVER a 1st round pick--they're too replaceable and too low-impact relative to other positions. And their prime years come and go very quickly. Plus, our coach is a Shanahan for crying out loud!
Not to mention, yes, Najee is a nice prospect, but Etienne and the N. Carolina kid are all 1a/1b/1c in this draft. It's not like Najee is some generational player.
It doesn't matter who the RB is, a RB is NEVER a 1st round pick--they're too replaceable and too low-impact relative to other positions. And their prime years come and go very quickly. Plus, our coach is a Shanahan for crying out loud!
Not to mention, yes, Najee is a nice prospect, but Etienne and the N. Carolina kid are all 1a/1b/1c in this draft. It's not like Najee is some generational player.
Apr 6, 2021 at 8:44 AM
- SammyFrancisco
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Originally posted by gold49digger:
Usually. But we have a really great roster with too much draft picks for our roster. I would not be surprised if we liked Harris that much. Kyle said awhile back that if he thought a rb was dynamic, like saquon was, it would be worth that pick. Unless they fall in love with a corner, if we traded up im willing to bet that it's for Harris. I'm going with my theory that kyle going to bamas pro day is for Harris while under the guise that we are looking at Mac.
This is a bad approach imo. Same justification as KC made last year when they drafted CEH, then their O-Line proceeded to fall apart in he playoffs, costing them any shot in the Super Bowl.
Even a "perfect" NFL roster needs more depth, needs a continual influx of young talent on inexpensive rookie contracts to maintain itself.
Take valuable players. Don't justify sub-optimal picks by saying our roster is already great.
Apr 6, 2021 at 8:53 AM
- LumpiaJeff
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All for it. I dont think he falls out of the 1st round with Miami and Pitt potentially looking for a running back.
Apr 6, 2021 at 10:02 AM
- ChaunceyGardner
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This is what I want to hear an announcer say: " Stu, looks like Najee Harris has taken over the 4th quarter of this Super Bowl and the Cleveland defense is really getting punched in the mouth. They hit em with Kittle, they ran wild with Deebo and Aiyuk and they just don't have all the answers for this juggernaut "
Apr 6, 2021 at 10:58 AM
- richterkbelmont
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3rd round or later. And if becomes an Alvin Kamara or Dalvin Cook stud, trade him in year 3.
He is a RB. The position you should never overdraft or pay.
He is a RB. The position you should never overdraft or pay.
Apr 6, 2021 at 10:59 AM
- richterkbelmont
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Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
The fact that "3rd or later" is in last place in this poll is a disconcerting reflection on the WZ
It doesn't matter who the RB is, a RB is NEVER a 1st round pick--they're too replaceable and too low-impact relative to other positions. And their prime years come and go very quickly. Plus, our coach is a Shanahan for crying out loud!
Not to mention, yes, Najee is a nice prospect, but Etienne and the N. Carolina kid are all 1a/1b/1c in this draft. It's not like Najee is some generational player.
There's plenty of sleepers who will perform well in the right system and will be picked in day 3. That's where you have to look at.
[ Edited by richterkbelmont on Apr 6, 2021 at 10:59 AM ]
Apr 6, 2021 at 11:09 AM
- TheRickestRick
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Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
The fact that "3rd or later" is in last place in this poll is a disconcerting reflection on the WZ
It doesn't matter who the RB is, a RB is NEVER a 1st round pick--they're too replaceable and too low-impact relative to other positions. And their prime years come and go very quickly. Plus, our coach is a Shanahan for crying out loud!
Not to mention, yes, Najee is a nice prospect, but Etienne and the N. Carolina kid are all 1a/1b/1c in this draft. It's not like Najee is some generational player.
Based on his talent he is definitely worth a 2nd. Yes in this system they can churn out 1000 backs like nothing but lets also remember the one time Mike Shanahan drafted a RB high, Clinton Portis who then turned into Champ Bailey.
It isnt an area of need but Harris in the 2nd wouldn't be the worst.
Apr 6, 2021 at 11:23 AM
- richterkbelmont
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Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
The fact that "3rd or later" is in last place in this poll is a disconcerting reflection on the WZ
It doesn't matter who the RB is, a RB is NEVER a 1st round pick--they're too replaceable and too low-impact relative to other positions. And their prime years come and go very quickly. Plus, our coach is a Shanahan for crying out loud!
Not to mention, yes, Najee is a nice prospect, but Etienne and the N. Carolina kid are all 1a/1b/1c in this draft. It's not like Najee is some generational player.
Based on his talent he is definitely worth a 2nd. Yes in this system they can churn out 1000 backs like nothing but lets also remember the one time Mike Shanahan drafted a RB high, Clinton Portis who then turned into Champ Bailey.
It isnt an area of need but Harris in the 2nd wouldn't be the worst.
I'd still rather attack the strenghts of the draft which are also needs. And those are OL and CB.
Apr 6, 2021 at 2:03 PM
- brodiebluebanaszak
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Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
The fact that "3rd or later" is in last place in this poll is a disconcerting reflection on the WZ
It doesn't matter who the RB is, a RB is NEVER a 1st round pick--they're too replaceable and too low-impact relative to other positions. And their prime years come and go very quickly. Plus, our coach is a Shanahan for crying out loud!
Not to mention, yes, Najee is a nice prospect, but Etienne and the N. Carolina kid are all 1a/1b/1c in this draft. It's not like Najee is some generational player.
Based on his talent he is definitely worth a 2nd. Yes in this system they can churn out 1000 backs like nothing but lets also remember the one time Mike Shanahan drafted a RB high, Clinton Portis who then turned into Champ Bailey.
It isnt an area of need but Harris in the 2nd wouldn't be the worst.
I'd still rather attack the strenghts of the draft which are also needs. And those are OL and CB.
Agree. We are drowning in running backs
Apr 6, 2021 at 2:25 PM
- 9moon
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IF we didn't have Thunder & Lightning, I'd trade down and draft Harris between 17 and 22..
Apr 6, 2021 at 4:25 PM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Usually. But we have a really great roster with too much draft picks for our roster. I would not be surprised if we liked Harris that much. Kyle said awhile back that if he thought a rb was dynamic, like saquon was, it would be worth that pick. Unless they fall in love with a corner, if we traded up im willing to bet that it's for Harris. I'm going with my theory that kyle going to bamas pro day is for Harris while under the guise that we are looking at Mac.
This is a bad approach imo. Same justification as KC made last year when they drafted CEH, then their O-Line proceeded to fall apart in he playoffs, costing them any shot in the Super Bowl.
Even a "perfect" NFL roster needs more depth, needs a continual influx of young talent on inexpensive rookie contracts to maintain itself.
Take valuable players. Don't justify sub-optimal picks by saying our roster is already great.
Agreed. I voted for 3rd or later. It isn't to say I'd never take a back in the 1st or 2nd, because if I see a bigger back that fits this system, can block, catch, pick up short yardage, and could handle 25+ carries in this system, I'd do it. I like Mostert, Wilson, and Hasty but I don't see any of the three as 1600+ scrimmage yards per year type of guys. The Shanahan system CAN work with a late round or UDFA back, but that type of thinking is similar to sticking with the Kirk Cousins style of QB.
Problem is while we have a talented roster, our holes on O-line and at corner could come back to haunt us. I'm also not counting on any non starting receiver on our roster. By my count, we could conceivably use all 9 picks and if the rookies show enough, all could make the roster. We need a guard and a center. If they keep Brunskill at guard then add tackle to the list. Could use another edge rusher. We need two corners. A safety could make the roster. A returner could make the roster. We need a no. 2 TE.
Fortunately we have the capital and can move up (or back) as needed to round out our roster. Hope these picks work out so that a RB can be a legitimate target with our earlier picks next year.
Apr 7, 2021 at 4:50 AM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by SammyFrancisco:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Usually. But we have a really great roster with too much draft picks for our roster. I would not be surprised if we liked Harris that much. Kyle said awhile back that if he thought a rb was dynamic, like saquon was, it would be worth that pick. Unless they fall in love with a corner, if we traded up im willing to bet that it's for Harris. I'm going with my theory that kyle going to bamas pro day is for Harris while under the guise that we are looking at Mac.
This is a bad approach imo. Same justification as KC made last year when they drafted CEH, then their O-Line proceeded to fall apart in he playoffs, costing them any shot in the Super Bowl.
Even a "perfect" NFL roster needs more depth, needs a continual influx of young talent on inexpensive rookie contracts to maintain itself.
Take valuable players. Don't justify sub-optimal picks by saying our roster is already great.
Agreed. I voted for 3rd or later. It isn't to say I'd never take a back in the 1st or 2nd, because if I see a bigger back that fits this system, can block, catch, pick up short yardage, and could handle 25+ carries in this system, I'd do it. I like Mostert, Wilson, and Hasty but I don't see any of the three as 1600+ scrimmage yards per year type of guys. The Shanahan system CAN work with a late round or UDFA back, but that type of thinking is similar to sticking with the Kirk Cousins style of QB.
Problem is while we have a talented roster, our holes on O-line and at corner could come back to haunt us. I'm also not counting on any non starting receiver on our roster. By my count, we could conceivably use all 9 picks and if the rookies show enough, all could make the roster. We need a guard and a center. If they keep Brunskill at guard then add tackle to the list. Could use another edge rusher. We need two corners. A safety could make the roster. A returner could make the roster. We need a no. 2 TE.
Fortunately we have the capital and can move up (or back) as needed to round out our roster. Hope these picks work out so that a RB can be a legitimate target with our earlier picks next year.
I hear you, but bpa can fall into your lap and you gotta take him.