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2022 NFL Scouting Combine

Mar 4, 2022 at 10:13 AM
That's huge

Mar 4, 2022 at 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I keep seeing WZ writers picking him to be the guy at 61 and I'm like what are you smoking lol


I don't think he will be a top 100 pick

61? More like 4th round.

Yeah… I wouldn't consider him before day 3. Him or any Center in this class for that matter unless you consider Zion a center.
Mar 4, 2022 at 10:16 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's huge


if true then he might be on our radar

i saw him as a 3-4OLB or a 4-3 pass rush specialist only
Mar 4, 2022 at 10:17 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
wtf
Mar 4, 2022 at 10:59 AM
I'm sure most of you watch at least some of the combine workouts. How often have you heard the announcers say. "his speed doesn't translate to the field" after a guy runs a quick 40. We also hear them say " he plays much faster than that" after they run a rather slow time. This tells you that the 40 times are pretty irrelevant.

John Brown had the fastest 40 ever officially recorded. He was never a real threat tha tneeded to be worried about. Vernon Davis had the fastest 40 ever for a TE and while he had a good career, I never really saw that kind of break away speed on the field. He should have been running a way from LBs and safeties.

Then we had guys like Jerry Rice and Steve Largent. Both great receivers who weren't that fast. Cooper Kupp only ran 4.62 but he's having a nice career.

My point here is every year we see players rise of fall based on a 40 yard time that isn't really that relative to the actual game. I heard Michael Irvin saying that receivers need to be able to run with controlled speed so they can run tight patterns and keep another gear for when they break free. He said too many really fast players rely on the speed too much and never develop into good receivers. D K Metcalf is one of the fastest guys in the league. He has great size to go along with it. He has a QB that throws a great deep ball. Despite all this he isn't near as dominant as he size/speed combo would say he should be. He doesn't run great routes and still has trouble getting open at times.

Tyreek Hill is an exception. John Brown is more the norm. It continues to baffle me the way so many football people continue to get enthralled at the combine and ignore the college game film. Even film from a Division 2 game can show more than a 40 yards sprint or a standing long jump.
Mar 4, 2022 at 10:59 AM
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I have this kid ranked ahead of Alec Lindstrom. Better measurables too.
Mar 4, 2022 at 11:07 AM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm sure most of you watch at least some of the combine workouts. How often have you heard the announcers say. "his speed doesn't translate to the field" after a guy runs a quick 40. We also hear them say " he plays much faster than that" after they run a rather slow time. This tells you that the 40 times are pretty irrelevant.

John Brown had the fastest 40 ever officially recorded. He was never a real threat tha tneeded to be worried about. Vernon Davis had the fastest 40 ever for a TE and while he had a good career, I never really saw that kind of break away speed on the field. He should have been running a way from LBs and safeties.

Then we had guys like Jerry Rice and Steve Largent. Both great receivers who weren't that fast. Cooper Kupp only ran 4.62 but he's having a nice career.

My point here is every year we see players rise of fall based on a 40 yard time that isn't really that relative to the actual game. I heard Michael Irvin saying that receivers need to be able to run with controlled speed so they can run tight patterns and keep another gear for when they break free. He said too many really fast players rely on the speed too much and never develop into good receivers. D K Metcalf is one of the fastest guys in the league. He has great size to go along with it. He has a QB that throws a great deep ball. Despite all this he isn't near as dominant as he size/speed combo would say he should be. He doesn't run great routes and still has trouble getting open at times.

Tyreek Hill is an exception. John Brown is more the norm. It continues to baffle me the way so many football people continue to get enthralled at the combine and ignore the college game film. Even film from a Division 2 game can show more than a 40 yards sprint or a standing long jump.

Yes, we all know this. It's still fun to see the numbers of some of these athletes.
Mar 4, 2022 at 11:40 AM
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm sure most of you watch at least some of the combine workouts. How often have you heard the announcers say. "his speed doesn't translate to the field" after a guy runs a quick 40. We also hear them say " he plays much faster than that" after they run a rather slow time. This tells you that the 40 times are pretty irrelevant.

John Brown had the fastest 40 ever officially recorded. He was never a real threat tha tneeded to be worried about. Vernon Davis had the fastest 40 ever for a TE and while he had a good career, I never really saw that kind of break away speed on the field. He should have been running a way from LBs and safeties.

Then we had guys like Jerry Rice and Steve Largent. Both great receivers who weren't that fast. Cooper Kupp only ran 4.62 but he's having a nice career.

My point here is every year we see players rise of fall based on a 40 yard time that isn't really that relative to the actual game. I heard Michael Irvin saying that receivers need to be able to run with controlled speed so they can run tight patterns and keep another gear for when they break free. He said too many really fast players rely on the speed too much and never develop into good receivers. D K Metcalf is one of the fastest guys in the league. He has great size to go along with it. He has a QB that throws a great deep ball. Despite all this he isn't near as dominant as he size/speed combo would say he should be. He doesn't run great routes and still has trouble getting open at times.

Tyreek Hill is an exception. John Brown is more the norm. It continues to baffle me the way so many football people continue to get enthralled at the combine and ignore the college game film. Even film from a Division 2 game can show more than a 40 yards sprint or a standing long jump.

Yes, we all know this. It's still fun to see the numbers of some of these athletes.

I would prefer to see more breakdowns of game film on some of the players. They do some but I would like to see more. I also would prefer to see these guys run in football gear. The way they do it now has little relevance to the actual playing field. The little 180 pound guys would probably be affected a lot more than the bigger guys. Many of them a track guys and are used to running in that kind of track gear. The big guys can carry the football gear easier. The times would be more equal.

They need to stop running the 40 for linemen. How often does a linemen run more than 10-20 yards in the game. They have the splits so just have them run 20 yards. Some of those big guys risk puling a hamstring trying to bust a good 40. When the do the passing drills I'd like to see the receivers matched up against the defenders.

I know they probably aren't going to change it but I think some changes could be made that would make it more interesting and more relevant.
Mar 4, 2022 at 12:15 PM
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
wtf

Freakazoid athlete, yes please.
Mar 4, 2022 at 12:23 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's huge


Yes sir...sounds like SF is looking for that speed rusher to pair with Bosa

Mar 4, 2022 at 12:28 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's huge


Yes sir...sounds like SF is looking for that speed rusher to pair with Bosa


It's been our biggest need since Ford broke down.
Mar 4, 2022 at 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's huge


Yes sir...sounds like SF is looking for that speed rusher to pair with Bosa


It's been our biggest need since Ford broke down.

Yeah I think EDGE will be top on the list.
Mar 4, 2022 at 1:21 PM
big boys are moving

Mar 4, 2022 at 1:54 PM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm sure most of you watch at least some of the combine workouts. How often have you heard the announcers say. "his speed doesn't translate to the field" after a guy runs a quick 40. We also hear them say " he plays much faster than that" after they run a rather slow time. This tells you that the 40 times are pretty irrelevant.

John Brown had the fastest 40 ever officially recorded. He was never a real threat tha tneeded to be worried about. Vernon Davis had the fastest 40 ever for a TE and while he had a good career, I never really saw that kind of break away speed on the field. He should have been running a way from LBs and safeties.

Then we had guys like Jerry Rice and Steve Largent. Both great receivers who weren't that fast. Cooper Kupp only ran 4.62 but he's having a nice career.

My point here is every year we see players rise of fall based on a 40 yard time that isn't really that relative to the actual game. I heard Michael Irvin saying that receivers need to be able to run with controlled speed so they can run tight patterns and keep another gear for when they break free. He said too many really fast players rely on the speed too much and never develop into good receivers. D K Metcalf is one of the fastest guys in the league. He has great size to go along with it. He has a QB that throws a great deep ball. Despite all this he isn't near as dominant as he size/speed combo would say he should be. He doesn't run great routes and still has trouble getting open at times.

Tyreek Hill is an exception. John Brown is more the norm. It continues to baffle me the way so many football people continue to get enthralled at the combine and ignore the college game film. Even film from a Division 2 game can show more than a 40 yards sprint or a standing long jump.

Yes, we all know this. It's still fun to see the numbers of some of these athletes.

I would prefer to see more breakdowns of game film on some of the players. They do some but I would like to see more. I also would prefer to see these guys run in football gear. The way they do it now has little relevance to the actual playing field. The little 180 pound guys would probably be affected a lot more than the bigger guys. Many of them a track guys and are used to running in that kind of track gear. The big guys can carry the football gear easier. The times would be more equal.

They need to stop running the 40 for linemen. How often does a linemen run more than 10-20 yards in the game. They have the splits so just have them run 20 yards. Some of those big guys risk puling a hamstring trying to bust a good 40. When the do the passing drills I'd like to see the receivers matched up against the defenders.

I know they probably aren't going to change it but I think some changes could be made that would make it more interesting and more relevant.

The combine is weird. A lot of the drills and measurements are obsolete. There's also this weird, almost sexual tension at the combine where these grown men literally salivate over these guys' bodies. It's strange... they like seeing them in t shirts and booty shorts. I don't watch the combine anymore, but I don't imagine it'll change anytime soon.

Kaepernick compared it to a slave auction, which is ridiculous, but I can see the NFL changing the process based off that.

But I agree, watching these guys compete in a real practice setting with pads would be much more enjoyable and makes more sense than what they do now.
Mar 4, 2022 at 1:58 PM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Yeah… I wouldn't consider him before day 3. Him or any Center in this class for that matter unless you consider Zion a center.

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