2022 OL prospects

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Koldo:
Nice thread.

It's too bad that ShanaLynch can't draft Olinemen to save their lives.

Yeah, so far, this isn't their strong suit. Pretty good at finding get-by guys for a couple games. They're better at buying old FA's and trading for them.

Kyle (I think) drafted Trent Williams back in 2010 and McKivitz did well in spot duties for Trent. So all isn't lost. Great thread!

Haha. The Shanahan's had as much personnel control as you and I do now...RGIII

I got to credit Kyle for getting Trent on the 49ers, as well as Mack, and McKivits did decent in spot duty last year, I'm projecting he'll put one more year of development and hopefully will challenge for the starting position somewhere on the OLine. Hoping he gets a gem of an OLineman in this years draft.

Our money rounds with this regime has been rounds 3-7. I love having multiple picks there and grabbing guys like this in the late third or fourth.

Thoughts on Zach Tom vs. Cam Jurgens?

Their RAS scores are almost identical

https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p1=21566&p2=21131&pos=OC

Also, Tom has quite a bit of experience at center:

Versatility: Tom logged nearly 3,000 snaps in college with more than 1,700 coming at left tackle and more than 1,200 at center. He hasn't played guard and only a handful of reps at right tackle. His ability to play both center and tackle makes him an even more attractive option. He is likely a zone run scheme prospect only.

Originally posted by Butter:
Thoughts on Zach Tom vs. Cam Jurgens?

Their RAS scores are almost identical

https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p1=21566&p2=21131&pos=OC

Also, Tom has quite a bit of experience at center:

Versatility: Tom logged nearly 3,000 snaps in college with more than 1,700 coming at left tackle and more than 1,200 at center. He hasn't played guard and only a handful of reps at right tackle. His ability to play both center and tackle makes him an even more attractive option. He is likely a zone run scheme prospect only.

They're comparable athletically, and Tom's tape definitely matches his testing. I like that Tom has played left tackle becausethat should help with his pass blocking. That said, he doesn't have that nastiness that jurgens does - jurgens has the demeanor that all the great olinemen have. It's hard to compare because Tom's recent tape is all at left tackle, but jergens definitely does stuff on tape that looks truly special, and so I would say he has greater upside, but it's not like Zach doesn't also have an immensely high ceiling with his elite athleticism and physical gifts. The pro for Tom is that I think he can be had at least a round later and he probablyhas guard versatility that I'm not completely sold on jurgens having. I wouldn't be upset at the team finding a way to draft both. Save right tackle for next year, or ideally, trade McGlinchey to the Jets for Becton.

That said, if I could only draft one, I'm probably drafting Zach Tom. I do think that the nastiness, the finishing ability in the run game, and what he brings to the o-line room overall does make jurgens the better prospect, but I am a firm believer that if you are drafting a center-only prospect in the first three rounds, it has to be with the intention to start him right away. There is no way, barring injury, that jurgens starts his rookie year with Alex Mack on the roster. I'd much rather use our limited high-end capital on somebody that will help our team this year. There are plenty of good centers in next year's class as well.

Sedrick Van Pran, OC/IOL, Georgia
Ricky Stromberg, OC, Arkansas
John MichaelSchmitz, OC, Minnesota
Jarrett Patterson, OC, Notre Dame

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Butter:
Thoughts on Zach Tom vs. Cam Jurgens?

Their RAS scores are almost identical

https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p1=21566&p2=21131&pos=OC

Also, Tom has quite a bit of experience at center:

Versatility: Tom logged nearly 3,000 snaps in college with more than 1,700 coming at left tackle and more than 1,200 at center. He hasn't played guard and only a handful of reps at right tackle. His ability to play both center and tackle makes him an even more attractive option. He is likely a zone run scheme prospect only.

They're comparable athletically, and Tom's tape definitely matches his testing. I like that Tom has played left tackle becausethat should help with his pass blocking. That said, he doesn't have that nastiness that jurgens does - jurgens has the demeanor that all the great olinemen have. It's hard to compare because Tom's recent tape is all at left tackle, but jergens definitely does stuff on tape that looks truly special, and so I would say he has greater upside, but it's not like Zach doesn't also have an immensely high ceiling with his elite athleticism and physical gifts. The pro for Tom is that I think he can be had at least a round later and he probablyhas guard versatility that I'm not completely sold on jurgens having. I wouldn't be upset at the team finding a way to draft both. Save right tackle for next year, or ideally, trade McGlinchey to the Jets for Becton.

That said, if I could only draft one, I'm probably drafting Zach Tom. I do think that the nastiness, the finishing ability in the run game, and what he brings to the o-line room overall does make jurgens the better prospect, but I am a firm believer that if you are drafting a center-only prospect in the first three rounds, it has to be with the intention to start him right away. There is no way, barring injury, that jurgens starts his rookie year with Alex Mack on the roster. I'd much rather use our limited high-end capital on somebody that will help our team this year. There are plenty of good centers in next year's class as well.

Sedrick Van Pran, OC/IOL, Georgia
Ricky Stromberg, OC, Arkansas
John MichaelSchmitz, OC, Minnesota
Jarrett Patterson, OC, Notre Dame

Good post. This is the kind of insight I come here for.

OC and FS Is kind of a conundrum during this draft. I always lean towards drafting a replacement sooner than later to ensure they are in the wings if something happens to the incumbent.

I would much rather have a late round diamond in the rough developing this year. If Tom or Jurgens turns out to be the answer, the Niners could choose to focus on another position. If they don't pan out, all they've done is taken a shot with a day 3 pick.

Based on your post, it sounds like the smart move is to taeget Jurgens, and if they miss on him, Tom is thr back up plan.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I want LSU OG Ed Ingram on my team.

— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) March 29, 2022

Me too

What is the assessment of the 9ers RT this year? Is Mcglincy going to be able to play at a high level? Does the Niners FO believe they have an in-house replacement with McKivitz or Moore

I feel like they need to draft.a developmental RT. Lynch a d team have done a good job of drafting the replacement a year before they're needed with several positions. Does the Niners FO believe they have an in-house replacement with McKivitz or Moore?

A sleeper option I really like is Matt Waletko

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/matt-waletzko

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
They're comparable athletically, and Tom's tape definitely matches his testing. I like that Tom has played left tackle becausethat should help with his pass blocking. That said, he doesn't have that nastiness that jurgens does - jurgens has the demeanor that all the great olinemen have. It's hard to compare because Tom's recent tape is all at left tackle, but jergens definitely does stuff on tape that looks truly special, and so I would say he has greater upside, but it's not like Zach doesn't also have an immensely high ceiling with his elite athleticism and physical gifts. The pro for Tom is that I think he can be had at least a round later and he probablyhas guard versatility that I'm not completely sold on jurgens having. I wouldn't be upset at the team finding a way to draft both. Save right tackle for next year, or ideally, trade McGlinchey to the Jets for Becton.

That said, if I could only draft one, I'm probably drafting Zach Tom. I do think that the nastiness, the finishing ability in the run game, and what he brings to the o-line room overall does make jurgens the better prospect, but I am a firm believer that if you are drafting a center-only prospect in the first three rounds, it has to be with the intention to start him right away. There is no way, barring injury, that jurgens starts his rookie year with Alex Mack on the roster. I'd much rather use our limited high-end capital on somebody that will help our team this year. There are plenty of good centers in next year's class as well.

Sedrick Van Pran, OC/IOL, Georgia
Ricky Stromberg, OC, Arkansas
John MichaelSchmitz, OC, Minnesota
Jarrett Patterson, OC, Notre Dame

Great post! I understand your logic in drafting a C only prospect he needs to start right away. But we are in a bit of a bind/need situation with C given this is likely Mack's last year and he is 100 years old this year.

Interested in your guard versatility comment. Who do you like as say a 1 year developmental C of this group and would you also try and start that player at say RG this year over Brunsklill/Moore?

Parham
Ingram
Salyer
Strange
Zach Tom

Anyone I might be missing?

Can Jurgens play at RG?

Man there's some solid day 2 early day 3 guys at IOL that can rock G/C

Luke Fortner
Dylan Parham
Cole Strange
Dohnovan West
Cam Jurgens
Alec Linstrom

hoping we can come away with one of these guys. I'm all for moving around on day 2, we don't need 9 picks.

Originally posted by kansasninerfan:
Great post! I understand your logic in drafting a C only prospect he needs to start right away. But we are in a bit of a bind/need situation with C given this is likely Mack's last year and he is 100 years old this year.

Interested in your guard versatility comment. Who do you like as say a 1 year developmental C of this group and would you also try and start that player at say RG this year over Brunsklill/Moore?

Parham
Ingram
Salyer
Strange
Zach Tom

Anyone I might be missing?

To be clear, I wouldn't advocate to draft a guy intending to play him at guard for a year before transitioning him to center. I think a starting guard is a much bigger need than a developmental center, but if the guy we draft doesn't end up working out at guard or we're in a position to upgrade over that player, the versatility would still allow him to potentially see the field at center in the future, whereas I don't think there is a center prospect in this draft not named linderbaum that will be able to see the field in year one and so would be a waste of early resources in my opinion. Of the guys you listed, I really do like them all. Salyer is probably the first one drafted, and the least scheme fit. I really like Zach Tom, though I do question his strength to move inside full time, and I'm probably boosting him up due to where I'm assuming we can draft him though he may go earlier than expected. I think Strange, Parham, Ingram will all be simarly graded prospects, as well as Lecitus Smith from VT

Ryan Van Demark
6'6, 307lbs - UCONN
- Good late Day 3 development prospect
- Long and extremely athletic
- High character team captain
- Swing Tackle candidate, experienced and comfortable in both LT/RT
- Niners were present at his Pro Day (probably for Travis Jones but...doesn't hurt to look at other players.)

Watching Rachaad White from ASU I couldn't help but notice Dohnovan West opening up alot of those holes he was running through. West has experience at all 3 interior spots. Could be C of future or starting RG for us.

I hope Lynch is looking in this thread...you guys are doing serious work in here.