Originally posted by ScoutingBall:
Realistic holes are as followed (who I'd go after)
Nickel CB (Marcus Jones)
S (Brisker, Cross)
G (Goedeke)
You could add center if Mack retires and RB/WR/TE are in play.
Would love Pitre because he checks the boxes at safety and slot
I'm concerned about what the rule changes with going low on blockers will do with Pitre as a Safety.
Hasn't even thought of that. How would you feel about him at 61? I know some concern also about his ability to play FS, but more so due to his duties at Baylor
I think he will be a beast Nickle corner in the pros which we need so I'd be completely cool with Pitre at nickle and Huf and Ward at Safety
You are big on Brisker ability to play slot right?
Yeah both can play the slot I think Pitre is the better player right now. Briskers feet have me like Rex Ryan. His footwork ability to change directions in backpedal tracking the ball after a speed turn is why I'm big on Brisker
Originally posted by ScoutingBall:
Realistic holes are as followed (who I'd go after)
Nickel CB (Marcus Jones)
S (Brisker, Cross)
G (Goedeke)
You could add center if Mack retires and RB/WR/TE are in play.
Would love Pitre because he checks the boxes at safety and slot
I'm concerned about what the rule changes with going low on blockers will do with Pitre as a Safety.
Hasn't even thought of that. How would you feel about him at 61? I know some concern also about his ability to play FS, but more so due to his duties at Baylor
I think he will be a beast Nickle corner in the pros which we need so I'd be completely cool with Pitre at nickle and Huf and Ward at Safety
You are big on Brisker ability to play slot right?
Yeah both can play the slot I think Pitre is the better player right now. Briskers feet have me like Rex Ryan. His footwork ability to change directions in backpedal tracking the ball after a speed turn is why I'm big on Brisker
Man I just want a db with solid ball skills. If our secondary can prevent qbs from just throwing it up and getting a flag then our defense will be back to dominance. I like our development from our young dbs at the end of the season and if we can get a db that is more polished than guys we drafted then I think our defense is complete. The rams and Cardinals have stacked weapons that work great with the quick game. Sometimes the pass rush won't get there so we need strong DB play. Ward is forever underrated and I'm glad that we aren't prioritizing tartt cause he is not a playmaker in the slightest.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Bleacher Report has us taking Ed Ingram (gross) at 61 over Pitre, McCreary, and Mafe. Then Mykeal Wright and Pierre Strong.
Ingram at 61 and Wright at 93?
Agreed. Based on what B/R had available I would've gone: R2: Pitre (no brainer), R3a: Cam Taylor-Britt, R3b: Abraham Lucas.
BACKGROUND: Cameron "Cam" Jurgens, who is the youngest of three children, grew up on his family's farm (beans, cattle, corn) in Pickrell, just north of Beatrice (35 miles south of Lincoln). He was a three-sport standout at Beatrice High and four-year letterman in football, playing linebacker, tight end and punter. After earning Second Team All-State honors as a sophomore, Jurgens was a First-Team All-State honoree as a junior with 98 tackles on defense and 23 receptions for 286 yards on offense. Before missing the second half of his senior year with an injury, he posted 57 tackles and one interception in 2017, adding 318 rushing yards, 277 receiving yards and eight touchdowns to again earn All-State honors. He lettered in basketball and averaged 12.5 points and 3.5 rebounds per game as a junior to earn Honorable Mention All-State (didn't play as a senior because of his football injury). Jurgens was also one of the most accomplished track athletes in the state and led Beatrice to the state title in 2018. He was a four-time state champion in the discus and three-time champion in the shot put, setting personal bests in the shot put (63'3) and discus (196'8). A four-star recruit out of high school, Jurgens was the No. 7 tight end in the 2018 recruiting class and the No. 1 recruit in the state (highest-ranked recruit in Nebraska since 2010). Growing up a Cornhuskers fan, he originally committed to Nebraska in August 2015 prior to his sophomore year. He considered flipping to LSU after Mike Riley was fired as head coach, but he bought into the vision of Scott Frost and his staff, signing with Nebraska to play football. He joined the Nebraska track team after the 2019 football season and had a personal best 56'3 in the shot put during the 2020 indoor season. Despite no experience, Jurgens made the position switch from tight end to center during 2019 spring practices. His mother (Beth) set the Nebraska high school record in the shot put (47'7) and was a 12-time NAIA All-American at Nebraska-Kearney (1983-87). She earned seven national titles and set the indoor shot put record (50'8) and the NAIA national championship discus record (161'2), earning a spot in the school's Hall of Fame. Cam's older brother (Colby) threw for the track team at Nebraska-Kearney (2011-15). Cam elected to skip his senior
season and enter the 2022 NFL Draft.
STRENGTHS: Former tight end who moves like it … outstanding space athlete with the range to pull, climb and pick off defenders 30 yards downfield in the screen game … efficient and timely with his combinations … his lateral quickness and lower body fluidity help him mirror and stay connected vs. interior rushers … has long arms and works hard to stay balanced through contact … able to anchor when he uses proper fundamentals and knee bend … his hand strength jolts and surprises defenders at contact … blocks with some edge to him, and his energy level doesn't fall off late in games … has worked hard to pack weight onto his frame … consistently played through pain during his career … started 31 of 32 games the past three seasons.
WEAKNESSES: His frame appears near maxed out … doesn't have the upper body power to latch and overwhelm the man across from him … has the bad habit of head-ducking and over-setting his target … struggles to recover once stacked and his chest is exposed … penalized six times in 2021, including multiple holding calls … often overaggressive and needs to stay under control at the second level to break down and avoid being shaken by linebackers … doesn't have guard experience … his medical history needs to be fully vetted: missed the second half of his senior year of high school after breaking his fibula and dislocating his left ankle (October 2017); suffered a broken metatarsal in his right foot (October 2018) and redshirted; reaggravated his foot injury and missed one game (November 2020).
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Nebraska, Jurgens was the starting center in head coach Scott Frost's multiple-based offense. A 245-pound high school tight end, Jurgens transitioned to center when he arrived in Lincoln (never had taken a snap at the position) and grew into a 31-game starter who showed key improvements each season. Jurgens has above-average movements skills with explosiveness in his upper half and rare range to reach and cut off pursuit angles. Though he shows core strength when engaged, his overaggressive and undisciplined tendencies lead to negative reps. Overall, Jurgens lacks the brute power to easily control defenders, but he is a twitched-up athlete with play quickness and competitive toughness that will translate to the NFL. He is the round two version of Iowa's Tyler Linderbaum and will grow into a starter for a zone-based offense.
BACKGROUND: Cameron "Cam" Jurgens, who is the youngest of three children, grew up on his family's farm (beats, beans, cattle, corn) in Pickrell, just north of Beatrice (35 miles south of Lincoln). He was a three-sport standout at Beatrice High and four-year letterman in football, playing linebacker, tight end and punter. After earning Second Team All-State honors as a sophomore, Jurgens was a First-Team All-State honoree as a junior with 98 tackles on defense and 23 receptions for 286 yards on offense. Before missing the second half of his senior year with an injury, he posted 57 tackles and one interception in 2017, adding 318 rushing yards, 277 receiving yards and eight touchdowns to again earn All-State honors. He lettered in basketball and averaged 12.5 points and 3.5 rebounds per game as a junior to earn Honorable Mention All-State (didn't play as a senior because of his football injury). Jurgens was also one of the most accomplished track athletes in the state and led Beatrice to the state title in 2018. He was a four-time state champion in the discus and three-time champion in the shot put, setting personal bests in the shot put (63'3) and discus (196'8). A four-star recruit out of high school, Jurgens was the No. 7 tight end in the 2018 recruiting class and the No. 1 recruit in the state (highest-ranked recruit in Nebraska since 2010). Growing up a Cornhuskers fan, he originally committed to Nebraska in August 2015 prior to his sophomore year. He considered flipping to LSU after Mike Riley was fired as head coach, but he bought into the vision of Scott Frost and his staff, signing with Nebraska to play football. He joined the Nebraska track team after the 2019 football season and had a personal best 56'3 in the shot put during the 2020 indoor season. Despite no experience, Jurgens made the position switch from tight end to center during 2019 spring practices. His mother (Beth) set the Nebraska high school record in the shot put (47'7) and was a 12-time NAIA All-American at Nebraska-Kearney (1983-87). She earned seven national titles and set the indoor shot put record (50'8) and the NAIA national championship discus record (161'2), earning a spot in the school's Hall of Fame. Cam's older brother (Colby) threw for the track team at Nebraska-Kearney (2011-15). Cam elected to skip his senior
season and enter the 2022 NFL Draft.
STRENGTHS: Former tight end who moves like it … outstanding space athlete with the range to pull, climb and pick off defenders 30 yards downfield in the screen game … efficient and timely with his combinations … his lateral quickness and lower body fluidity help him mirror and stay connected vs. interior rushers … has long arms and works hard to stay balanced through contact … able to anchor when he uses proper fundamentals and knee bend … his hand strength jolts and surprises defenders at contact … blocks with some edge to him, and his energy level doesn't fall off late in games … has worked hard to pack weight onto his frame … consistently played through pain during his career … started 31 of 32 games the past three seasons.
WEAKNESSES: His frame appears near maxed out … doesn't have the upper body power to latch and overwhelm the man across from him … has the bad habit of head-ducking and over-setting his target … struggles to recover once stacked and his chest is exposed … penalized six times in 2021, including multiple holding calls … often overaggressive and needs to stay under control at the second level to break down and avoid being shaken by linebackers … doesn't have guard experience … his medical history needs to be fully vetted: missed the second half of his senior year of high school after breaking his fibula and dislocating his left ankle (October 2017); suffered a broken metatarsal in his right foot (October 2018) and redshirted; reaggravated his foot injury and missed one game (November 2020).
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Nebraska, Jurgens was the starting center in head coach Scott Frost's multiple-based offense. A 245-pound high school tight end, Jurgens transitioned to center when he arrived in Lincoln (never had taken a snap at the position) and grew into a 31-game starter who showed key improvements each season. Jurgens has above-average movements skills with explosiveness in his upper half and rare range to reach and cut off pursuit angles. Though he shows core strength when engaged, his overaggressive and undisciplined tendencies lead to negative reps. Overall, Jurgens lacks the brute power to easily control defenders, but he is a twitched-up athlete with play quickness and competitive toughness that will translate to the NFL. He is the round two version of Iowa's Tyler Linderbaum and will grow into a starter for a zone-based offense.
BACKGROUND: Cameron "Cam" Jurgens, who is the youngest of three children, grew up on his family's farm (beats, beans, cattle, corn) in Pickrell, just north of Beatrice (35 miles south of Lincoln). He was a three-sport standout at Beatrice High and four-year letterman in football, playing linebacker, tight end and punter. After earning Second Team All-State honors as a sophomore, Jurgens was a First-Team All-State honoree as a junior with 98 tackles on defense and 23 receptions for 286 yards on offense. Before missing the second half of his senior year with an injury, he posted 57 tackles and one interception in 2017, adding 318 rushing yards, 277 receiving yards and eight touchdowns to again earn All-State honors. He lettered in basketball and averaged 12.5 points and 3.5 rebounds per game as a junior to earn Honorable Mention All-State (didn't play as a senior because of his football injury). Jurgens was also one of the most accomplished track athletes in the state and led Beatrice to the state title in 2018. He was a four-time state champion in the discus and three-time champion in the shot put, setting personal bests in the shot put (63'3) and discus (196'8). A four-star recruit out of high school, Jurgens was the No. 7 tight end in the 2018 recruiting class and the No. 1 recruit in the state (highest-ranked recruit in Nebraska since 2010). Growing up a Cornhuskers fan, he originally committed to Nebraska in August 2015 prior to his sophomore year. He considered flipping to LSU after Mike Riley was fired as head coach, but he bought into the vision of Scott Frost and his staff, signing with Nebraska to play football. He joined the Nebraska track team after the 2019 football season and had a personal best 56'3 in the shot put during the 2020 indoor season. Despite no experience, Jurgens made the position switch from tight end to center during 2019 spring practices. His mother (Beth) set the Nebraska high school record in the shot put (47'7) and was a 12-time NAIA All-American at Nebraska-Kearney (1983-87). She earned seven national titles and set the indoor shot put record (50'8) and the NAIA national championship discus record (161'2), earning a spot in the school's Hall of Fame. Cam's older brother (Colby) threw for the track team at Nebraska-Kearney (2011-15). Cam elected to skip his senior
season and enter the 2022 NFL Draft.
STRENGTHS: Former tight end who moves like it … outstanding space athlete with the range to pull, climb and pick off defenders 30 yards downfield in the screen game … efficient and timely with his combinations … his lateral quickness and lower body fluidity help him mirror and stay connected vs. interior rushers … has long arms and works hard to stay balanced through contact … able to anchor when he uses proper fundamentals and knee bend … his hand strength jolts and surprises defenders at contact … blocks with some edge to him, and his energy level doesn't fall off late in games … has worked hard to pack weight onto his frame … consistently played through pain during his career … started 31 of 32 games the past three seasons.
WEAKNESSES: His frame appears near maxed out … doesn't have the upper body power to latch and overwhelm the man across from him … has the bad habit of head-ducking and over-setting his target … struggles to recover once stacked and his chest is exposed … penalized six times in 2021, including multiple holding calls … often overaggressive and needs to stay under control at the second level to break down and avoid being shaken by linebackers … doesn't have guard experience … his medical history needs to be fully vetted: missed the second half of his senior year of high school after breaking his fibula and dislocating his left ankle (October 2017); suffered a broken metatarsal in his right foot (October 2018) and redshirted; reaggravated his foot injury and missed one game (November 2020).
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Nebraska, Jurgens was the starting center in head coach Scott Frost's multiple-based offense. A 245-pound high school tight end, Jurgens transitioned to center when he arrived in Lincoln (never had taken a snap at the position) and grew into a 31-game starter who showed key improvements each season. Jurgens has above-average movements skills with explosiveness in his upper half and rare range to reach and cut off pursuit angles. Though he shows core strength when engaged, his overaggressive and undisciplined tendencies lead to negative reps. Overall, Jurgens lacks the brute power to easily control defenders, but he is a twitched-up athlete with play quickness and competitive toughness that will translate to the NFL. He is the round two version of Iowa's Tyler Linderbaum and will grow into a starter for a zone-based offense.
Originally posted by fatalherban:
Maybe an unpopular opinion but Kenneth Walker
Bills, Texans, Falcons, Saints, prolly gonna gobble up Breece Hall and Kenneth Walker before too long.
Don't hate me on this I'm about to commit serious sacrilege but.. no hate plz.. I see shades of Gore.. not saying as good of course but similar body build / run style.. don't ban me plz..
I heard this morning that the 49ers feel Jake Brendel may be able to take over the center job. He's been in the league 4 years and apparently has always been a center. I don't know much about him. He started 3 games for Miami in 2018 and then was picked up by SF in 2021.
