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🏈 2023 NFL ENTRY DRAFT 🏈
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:33 PM
- Rathof44
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Higgins gone
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:33 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by scooterhd:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Rams are picking directly from our board. Every pick.
Seattle is having a great draft. Cardinals doing solid work as well.
That's what happens when you have high end picks. Overall this draft is meh imo. Part of the reason I'm not screaming made at who we're picking.
I actually like the guys we got overall. The value might not be there, but whatever.
I tried telling NC that SF likes Colton more than the fans do
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:34 PM
- Rathof44
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Originally posted by scooterhd:
Weird spot for Higgins in my opinion.
Agree. Good luck finding snaps.
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:35 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by scooterhd:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Rams are picking directly from our board. Every pick.
Seattle is having a great draft. Cardinals doing solid work as well.
That's what happens when you have high end picks. Overall this draft is meh imo. Part of the reason I'm not screaming made at who we're picking.
I actually like the guys we got overall. The value might not be there, but whatever.
I tried telling NC that SF likes Colton more than the fans do
Haha. Sadly, I didn't disagree with you.
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:41 PM
- btthepunk
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Dammit there goes Patterson!
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:42 PM
- Oilcan
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Originally posted by NYniner85:I didn't like the kicker pick but it is what it is. Looking back I really do not like the tight end pick I don't see him being a huge upgrade from the back ups we already have I think we would've been better off picking saldiveri or Freeland.
That's what happens when you have high end picks. Overall this draft is meh imo. Part of the reason I'm not screaming made at who we're picking.
I actually like the guys we got overall. The value might not be there, but whatever.
I tried telling NC that SF likes Colton more than the fans do
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:43 PM
- scooterhd
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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Dammit there goes Patterson!
Dont worry, we weren't going to draft OL anyway.
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:46 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by Oilcan:
I didn't like the kicker pick but it is what it is. Looking back I really do not like the tight end pick I don't see him being a huge upgrade from the back ups we already have I think we would've been better off picking saldiveri or Freeland.
If Latu can block his shadow he's an upgrade on Dwelley.
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:47 PM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
This deep into the draft without an IOL or OT means they have faith in the current starters, depth and the new guys they brought in.
They have faith in them every year. And it always costs us in the end.
That had nothing to do with Oline and the unit was the best we've had under Kyle last year. With that said, I still would have taken 2 guys minimum, 3rd and 5th rounds with my original mocks. Looking at the depth really. Poe, Zakelj, Moore, and Feliciano. Looks like vet depth or guys we know nothing about. Same applies to any rookies drafted but at least there would be more competition.
Brock had like a 65% pressure rate, we scored a Jimmy-like 19 points against Dallas (defense actually held this time though) and only 8 passes went more than 10 yards. Then Philly. The OL far exceeded expectations but if you want a Championship level OL against the DL's we'll be facing to get to the Superbowl, Colton McKivitz and even Spencer Burford might need to be upgraded. And Banks needs far better conditioning as he fell off as the season progressed. Plus TW is guaranteed to miss games as well and is already talking retirement. Brendel is fine right now; might have some legit young challengers already on the roster. IMHO, of course.
I honestly think Dallas was a bad matchup for us, even though we were the better team. Just a fast team that was motivated to take it to us. Also, it was year 1 for our entire IOL. I'd like to see a 2nd year before I say they need to be upgraded. With all of that, I still said I would've taken two guys minimum and even specified where. I'm not saying we can't get any better there. They did well for being first year starters. Now let's see what they have in year 2 before saying these guys need to be upgraded.
Furthermore, although O-line has clearly cost us, you are asking for O-line to compensate for deficiencies at QB. All this talk of the DLs we will be facing- which teams are you referring to, and of those teams, who would you say has the better QB, us or those other teams the last 4 years for every single playoff loss? All of this O-line talk, while every one of these Super Bowls have been won by possibly the GOAT of QBs, a guy that people want to crown a GOAT, and a guy that has been one of the top-5 or 10 best in the last 15 years. There's a reason these QBs get ungodly sums of money, even if they aren't truly tier 1 elite guys. Lynch and Shanahan figured it out and made a big move to hopefully get a guy that could potentially be that. It hasn't worked so far, but elite O-line play isn't going to carry us all the way. Dallas had an A1 O-line for how long? And there's nothing but dust in their trophy case in that time period.
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:47 PM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
I didn't like the kicker pick but it is what it is. Looking back I really do not like the tight end pick I don't see him being a huge upgrade from the back ups we already have I think we would've been better off picking saldiveri or Freeland.
If Latu can block his shadow he's an upgrade on Dwelley.
yep
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:48 PM
- ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by scooterhd:
Chiefs take Coburn. Nesta Jade still available though...
Ojomo might be available
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:48 PM
- steiber
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Originally posted by Rathof44:
Higgins gone
I really wanted to see him in this offense. I envisioned him as an offensive weapon. Move him in the slot, backfield and TE. He plays a lot faster than his timed speed.
[ Edited by steiber on Apr 29, 2023 at 1:49 PM ]
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:49 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I honestly think Dallas was a bad matchup for us, even though we were the better team. Just a fast team that was motivated to take it to us. Also, it was year 1 for our entire IOL. I'd like to see a 2nd year before I say they need to be upgraded. With all of that, I still said I would've taken two guys minimum and even specified where. I'm not saying we can't get any better there. They did well for being first year starters. Now let's see what they have in year 2 before saying these guys need to be upgraded.
Furthermore, although O-line has clearly cost us, you are asking for O-line to compensate for deficiencies at QB. All this talk of the DLs we will be facing- which teams are you referring to, and of those teams, who would you say has the better QB, us or those other teams the last 4 years for every single playoff loss? All of this O-line talk, while every one of these Super Bowls have been won by possibly the GOAT of QBs, a guy that people want to crown a GOAT, and a guy that has been one of the top-5 or 10 best in the last 15 years. There's a reason these QBs get ungodly sums of money, even if they aren't truly tier 1 elite guys. Lynch and Shanahan figured it out and made a big move to hopefully get a guy that could potentially be that. It hasn't worked so far, but elite O-line play isn't going to carry us all the way. Dallas had an A1 O-line for how long? And there's nothing but dust in their trophy case in that time period.
Oh lifelong. We have all tried. Gonna be tilting at the windmills here.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Apr 29, 2023 at 1:49 PM ]
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:49 PM
- Luckycharms
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by scooterhd:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Rams are picking directly from our board. Every pick.
Seattle is having a great draft. Cardinals doing solid work as well.
Agreed. Seattle attacking the trenches is just not something I can get used too. LOL
Arizona Cardinals' current 2024 draft picks:
1st-round pick
1st-round pick (Texans)
2nd-round pick
3rd-round pick
3rd-round pick (Texans)
3rd-round pick (Titans)
4th-round pick
4th-round pick (projected compensatory pick)
5th-round pick
5th-round pick (Eagles)
7th-round pick
AZ loading up picks next year, in what's supposed to be a good class
Apr 29, 2023 at 1:50 PM
- JaggedJ
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LB, DT, OL, WR/RB for our last 4 picks. Probably guys we think we can stash on the PS for a year.