🏈 2023 NFL ENTRY DRAFT 🏈

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Dammit I wanted Xavier Hutchinson!!! f**k!!

Maybe Purdy said X wasn't all that.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hear you but every year those teams who believe they have their FQB do everything they can to buy and draft the best OL possible. That's magnified even more after they lose b/c of that OL.

Now, do WE think we have our FQB? If so, why aren't we doing the same thing? Eagles had the best or second best OL last year and they continue to stack it with talent like we do with the DL. Of course, they prove you can do both. Just one example...

Chiefs can keep their mediocre LT. Never liked him as a Gator. Don't think he'll be near worth the money.

Is it possible to not draft someone over 250 pounds?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
I didn't like the kicker pick but it is what it is. Looking back I really do not like the tight end pick I don't see him being a huge upgrade from the back ups we already have I think we would've been better off picking saldiveri or Freeland.

If Latu can block his shadow he's an upgrade on Dwelley.

Didn't need to use a 3rd to upgrade Dwelley.

4th

Didn't need to use a 4th either

There goes Demario Douglas.

Originally posted by btthepunk:
There goes Demario Douglas.

Yeah, I think all WRs that we met with that are draftable are gone. Ronnie Bell?

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Multiple early picks at that. We are seeing people comparing a team's draft with two first round picks to a team that didn't pick until 99.

I like the draft overall and am really interested to see what Wilks does with this defense. Super excited about year 2 of Brock and a healthy Trey, and even Darnold. Even though we were a winning team in 2019 and 2021, the run we were on in 2022 was the most fun I've had watching this team on offense in decades. I agree with you on value not being there, but these are good players. As over drafted as Moody is or that Latu went earlier than I would've liked (that run on TEs hurt a lot), I don't see any Trey Sermon picks. I don't see a TDP pick. There isn't anyone with red flag injury concerns (yet).

We can reasonably expect Brown to contribute in year 1. He will not sit like Danny Gray (and Im still high on the Gray pick BTW). Moody is the best kicker in the draft and will be the guy. I think Latu will beat out Dwelley and Woerner. Luter is a Wilks pick and I just don't want us counting on Ambry Thomas, so that has been taken care of. Beal has some great traits athletically. Coach K has a lot to work with between Davis, Gray, Jackson, Ferrell, and Hargrave. And we still can add four more guys.

The pick location is not the issue. It's where you prioritize. Their first 3 picks were DT, ER and T. That's prioritizing the trenches. And they didn't even "need" a T like we didn't need a 13th DL (although I like the pick).

As to the rest, that's a different topic. I like a lot of the talent we got too.

Dubose is best WR available.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I hear you but every year those teams who believe they have their FQB do everything they can to buy and draft the best OL possible. That's magnified even more after they lose b/c of that OL.

Now, do WE think we have our FQB? If so, why aren't we doing the same thing? Eagles had the best or second best OL last year and they continue to stack it with talent like we do with the DL. Of course, they prove you can do both. Just one example...

Chiefs can keep their mediocre LT. Never liked him as a Gator. Don't think he'll be near worth the money.

We know what happens when they lose their T's. It's unlikely they retain that #1 OL rank this year. That's all I need to know. Gotta have both.

Originally posted by NCommand:
The pick location is not the issue. It's where you prioritize. Their first 3 picks were DT, ER and T. That's prioritizing the trenches. And they didn't even "need" a T like we didn't need a 13th DL (although I like the pick).

As to the rest, that's a different topic. I like a lot of the talent we got too.

DTs are a dime a dozen tho?

Now it's "prioritize the trenches"

Hoping for
TE
Zach Kuntz
Brayden Willis
Noah Gindorf

OL
Ryan Hayes
Joey Fischer
John Ojukwu
Conner Galvin

C
Alex Forsyth

DL
Jerrod Clark

But knowing Kyle he's probably just itching to take a RB which I'm sure will be our pick

Originally posted by NCommand:
We know what happens when they lose their T's. It's unlikely they retain that #1 OL rank this year. That's all I need to know. Gotta have both.

Same thing that happens to every team that does.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
I didn't like the kicker pick but it is what it is. Looking back I really do not like the tight end pick I don't see him being a huge upgrade from the back ups we already have I think we would've been better off picking saldiveri or Freeland.

If Latu can block his shadow he's an upgrade on Dwelley.

Didn't need to use a 3rd to upgrade Dwelley.

4th

Didn't need to use a 4th either

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by hummbabybear:
This deep into the draft without an IOL or OT means they have faith in the current starters, depth and the new guys they brought in.

They have faith in them every year. And it always costs us in the end.

That had nothing to do with Oline and the unit was the best we've had under Kyle last year. With that said, I still would have taken 2 guys minimum, 3rd and 5th rounds with my original mocks. Looking at the depth really. Poe, Zakelj, Moore, and Feliciano. Looks like vet depth or guys we know nothing about. Same applies to any rookies drafted but at least there would be more competition.

Brock had like a 65% pressure rate, we scored a Jimmy-like 19 points against Dallas (defense actually held this time though) and only 8 passes went more than 10 yards. Then Philly. The OL far exceeded expectations but if you want a Championship level OL against the DL's we'll be facing to get to the Superbowl, Colton McKivitz and even Spencer Burford might need to be upgraded. And Banks needs far better conditioning as he fell off as the season progressed. Plus TW is guaranteed to miss games as well and is already talking retirement. Brendel is fine right now; might have some legit young challengers already on the roster. IMHO, of course.

I honestly think Dallas was a bad matchup for us, even though we were the better team. Just a fast team that was motivated to take it to us. Also, it was year 1 for our entire IOL. I'd like to see a 2nd year before I say they need to be upgraded. With all of that, I still said I would've taken two guys minimum and even specified where. I'm not saying we can't get any better there. They did well for being first year starters. Now let's see what they have in year 2 before saying these guys need to be upgraded.

Furthermore, although O-line has clearly cost us, you are asking for O-line to compensate for deficiencies at QB. All this talk of the DLs we will be facing- which teams are you referring to, and of those teams, who would you say has the better QB, us or those other teams the last 4 years for every single playoff loss? All of this O-line talk, while every one of these Super Bowls have been won by possibly the GOAT of QBs, a guy that people want to crown a GOAT, and a guy that has been one of the top-5 or 10 best in the last 15 years. There's a reason these QBs get ungodly sums of money, even if they aren't truly tier 1 elite guys. Lynch and Shanahan figured it out and made a big move to hopefully get a guy that could potentially be that. It hasn't worked so far, but elite O-line play isn't going to carry us all the way. Dallas had an A1 O-line for how long? And there's nothing but dust in their trophy case in that time period.

I hear you but every year those teams who believe they have their FQB do everything they can to buy and draft the best OL possible. That's magnified even more after they lose b/c of that OL.

Now, do WE think we have our FQB? If so, why aren't we doing the same thing? Eagles had the best or second best OL last year and they continue to stack it with talent like we do with the DL. Of course, they prove you can do both. Just one example...

I don't know if we have our FQB. Brock looks the part. In a perfect world, Trey plays at a high level and we have a tough decision to make after 2024. As for what we aren't doing, I think NY said it best, they believe in McKivitz, fwiw. I'm fine with him, but would've preferred a legitimate competition. I don't see a tackle on the roster that can challenge him. The Eagles had two firsts and a 2nd round pick. We started at 99. There is no comparison here lol. You say the continue to stack it with talent- they added one guy and did so in the second round. We never had a shot. Now let's say they bypassed the kicker and Friday went this way, Ji'Aiyr Brown at 87, Nick Saldivieri or Blake Freeland at 101, and Cameron Latu at 102. What would you be saying about that draft?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
The pick location is not the issue. It's where you prioritize. Their first 3 picks were DT, ER and T. That's prioritizing the trenches. And they didn't even "need" a T like we didn't need a 13th DL (although I like the pick).

As to the rest, that's a different topic. I like a lot of the talent we got too.

DTs are a dime a dozen tho?

Now it's "prioritize the trenches"

If you continually pick them, that's a priority for you. Whether or not they move the needle or not in a passing league is another topic (not talking pass rushing DT's though). Those certainly are not a dime a dozen.