🏈 2023 NFL ENTRY DRAFT 🏈

Originally posted by miked1978:
It just all depends how the players shake out. We assume every 1st rd draft pick isn't a bust but in reality over half arent worth where they are drafted. They had four 1st round picks in 2023 and 2024 right? If they end of with Stroud, Anderson and one of their 2024 picks and Stround/Anderson turn out to be cornerstone pieces then the trade was well worth it. The chances are slim hitting on all 4 of their original picks. You can go back and take any teams previous 4 first round picks and you'd be hard pressed to see a team hit on all of them.

I like the trade.

more I think of it I don't like the HOU trade, at least I am conflicted:

I'll put this out here, which do you prefer

CJ Stroud
Will Anderson
no 1st in 2024

or

CJ Stroud
JSN
1st in 2024

I like the bottom option better, this is a poor team that needs a lot of work and will be drafting early next year, JSN gives a needed receiver and has day 1 chemistry with CJ, college teammates.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Commanders taking Forbes over Gonzalez is such a Washington move it's clear that new ownership won't change this franchise.

it was bizarre, what's weird is I really like Forbes, he can flat ball, but the size makes me question if he is any more than a nickel back, what are your thoughts?

He's in desperate need of a professional diet and hitting the weight room. Coverage wise he's good. Him and Clark Phillips have that I'm gonna let the WR block me so I don't have to get involved in tackling attribute. So I'm not a fan. My only knock on Gonzalez was it looked like it was too easy for him in college and I rarely saw him challenged. I think the Pats with Jack Jones and Gonzalez are gonna make the Jets regret not taking him.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Murphys1:
I sort of just want to stay where we are and grab all the underdrafted players that fall to us...there will be a nice bunch to choose from.

I agree with this and possibly trading back for future draft picks.

This is what I am hoping for as well.

looking at the draft order

Lions, Rams, Seattle, Raiders all have some odds of going QB early 2nd

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by miked1978:
It just all depends how the players shake out. We assume every 1st rd draft pick isn't a bust but in reality over half arent worth where they are drafted. They had four 1st round picks in 2023 and 2024 right? If they end of with Stroud, Anderson and one of their 2024 picks and Stround/Anderson turn out to be cornerstone pieces then the trade was well worth it. The chances are slim hitting on all 4 of their original picks. You can go back and take any teams previous 4 first round picks and you'd be hard pressed to see a team hit on all of them.

I like the trade.

more I think of it I don't like the HOU trade, at least I am conflicted:

I'll put this out here, which do you prefer

CJ Stroud
Will Anderson
no 1st in 2024

or

CJ Stroud
JSN
1st in 2024

I like the bottom option better, this is a poor team that needs a lot of work and will be drafting early next year, JSN gives a needed receiver and has day 1 chemistry with CJ, college teammates.

I'm taking the guys I want/need now, they still have a first next year from Cleveland which could also be a high draft pick. They may have picked two cornerstone players, possibly even HOF players. You don't just pass up on that opportunity.

What are the odds that we can get that Wisconsin Center if we stay put?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by miked1978:
It just all depends how the players shake out. We assume every 1st rd draft pick isn't a bust but in reality over half arent worth where they are drafted. They had four 1st round picks in 2023 and 2024 right? If they end of with Stroud, Anderson and one of their 2024 picks and Stround/Anderson turn out to be cornerstone pieces then the trade was well worth it. The chances are slim hitting on all 4 of their original picks. You can go back and take any teams previous 4 first round picks and you'd be hard pressed to see a team hit on all of them.

I like the trade.

more I think of it I don't like the HOU trade, at least I am conflicted:

I'll put this out here, which do you prefer

CJ Stroud
Will Anderson
no 1st in 2024

or

CJ Stroud
JSN
1st in 2024

I like the bottom option better, this is a poor team that needs a lot of work and will be drafting early next year, JSN gives a needed receiver and has day 1 chemistry with CJ, college teammates.

I'm taking the guys I want/need now, they still have a first next year from Cleveland which could also be a high draft pick. They may have picked two cornerstone players, possibly even HOF players. You don't just pass up on that opportunity.

I love Anderson but I also love JSN. Just sucks we will likely see a top 3-5 potential pick going to the NFC West again, maybe a #1 overall pick. HOU will be throwing a rook QB and 1st time HC out there, there will be growing pains.

I do think it's cool Demeco went to Bama and so did Anderson, I'm gonna root for Texans

Originally posted by glorydayz:
What are the odds that we can get that Wisconsin Center if we stay put?

I think it would cost too much and we should be moving into the stockpiling future draft picks mode as our roster starts losing players getting overpaid in free agency cause they were on a winning team.

we are up today gonna get some new players

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by miked1978:
It just all depends how the players shake out. We assume every 1st rd draft pick isn't a bust but in reality over half arent worth where they are drafted. They had four 1st round picks in 2023 and 2024 right? If they end of with Stroud, Anderson and one of their 2024 picks and Stround/Anderson turn out to be cornerstone pieces then the trade was well worth it. The chances are slim hitting on all 4 of their original picks. You can go back and take any teams previous 4 first round picks and you'd be hard pressed to see a team hit on all of them.

I like the trade.

more I think of it I don't like the HOU trade, at least I am conflicted:

I'll put this out here, which do you prefer

CJ Stroud
Will Anderson
no 1st in 2024

or

CJ Stroud
JSN
1st in 2024

I like the bottom option better, this is a poor team that needs a lot of work and will be drafting early next year, JSN gives a needed receiver and has day 1 chemistry with CJ, college teammates.

They have a first next year though, they have the browns I believe. From the watson trade.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by raywm3:
I really hate the thought that some team will be getting Levis on the cheap. Wondering about a scenario where we trade into the 2nd round to grab him? I know it sounds crazy but some experts had this guy going #1 overall. I see visions of Rodgers and even Metcalf.

Please stop. Where other than his arm do you see a franchise qb in him? Add the fact the ridiculousness of you suggesting this team take another qb. You really believe what the experts say? Levis hasn't showed s**t his whole time at Kentucky to be worthy of being taken 1st overall so those "experts" must've attended Kentucky or been family and friends spreading fake news.

Oh, I'm sorry all knowing one. I didn't realize how uninformed I am and should've reached out to you first. Do I believe what the experts say? I believe that's the definition of the word "expert". When I see a player of his potential that slides for some reason, I absolutely start thinking about it. I could argue he's no different than Josh Allen when he came out.

Yet TEAMS thought Allen was a 1st round talent and they see Levis as not one. You're definitely uninformed when you're seriously thinking that this team should trade up for another damn qb and Will freaking Levis of them all

No different than Allen!? What? Lol allen went 7th overall? He was highly sought and desired

Lol, "Highly sought and desired"..... 7th lol. Yes, NO DIFFERENT. Levis was also projected top 10, just didn't happen. Like Rodgers. Like Metcalf. Doesn't mean he's not as touted, it just didn't happen. Go back and look at the credential and pre-draft fodder of each player. Fairly similar. Look, I don't even want Levis or think that much of him. I'm just saying that here's a player with top pick draft grades and physical tools for days and can potentially be drafted on the cheap (relatively) then might it be something to think about while also keeping him out of our opponents hands. And just maybe he's really good and everyone scratches their heads down the road as to why they didn't draft him when all the data said to. Just saying.

Which poster says "saving the best for last" today when we finally get on the clock?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by miked1978:
It just all depends how the players shake out. We assume every 1st rd draft pick isn't a bust but in reality over half arent worth where they are drafted. They had four 1st round picks in 2023 and 2024 right? If they end of with Stroud, Anderson and one of their 2024 picks and Stround/Anderson turn out to be cornerstone pieces then the trade was well worth it. The chances are slim hitting on all 4 of their original picks. You can go back and take any teams previous 4 first round picks and you'd be hard pressed to see a team hit on all of them.

I like the trade.

more I think of it I don't like the HOU trade, at least I am conflicted:

I'll put this out here, which do you prefer

CJ Stroud
Will Anderson
no 1st in 2024

or

CJ Stroud
JSN
1st in 2024

I like the bottom option better, this is a poor team that needs a lot of work and will be drafting early next year, JSN gives a needed receiver and has day 1 chemistry with CJ, college teammates.

They have a first next year though, they have the browns I believe. From the watson trade.

Yup, maybe I should have worded as 2 firsts in 2024 vs 1 first.. I feel their own first is especially important, as they will be starting the rook HC and QB, not CLE..

You are right they have the Browns pick in 2024 round 1 but they no longer have their own pick, Arizona has it now

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by miked1978:
It just all depends how the players shake out. We assume every 1st rd draft pick isn't a bust but in reality over half arent worth where they are drafted. They had four 1st round picks in 2023 and 2024 right? If they end of with Stroud, Anderson and one of their 2024 picks and Stround/Anderson turn out to be cornerstone pieces then the trade was well worth it. The chances are slim hitting on all 4 of their original picks. You can go back and take any teams previous 4 first round picks and you'd be hard pressed to see a team hit on all of them.

I like the trade.

more I think of it I don't like the HOU trade, at least I am conflicted:

I'll put this out here, which do you prefer

CJ Stroud
Will Anderson
no 1st in 2024

or

CJ Stroud
JSN
1st in 2024

I like the bottom option better, this is a poor team that needs a lot of work and will be drafting early next year, JSN gives a needed receiver and has day 1 chemistry with CJ, college teammates.

I'm taking the guys I want/need now, they still have a first next year from Cleveland which could also be a high draft pick. They may have picked two cornerstone players, possibly even HOF players. You don't just pass up on that opportunity.

I love Anderson but I also love JSN. Just sucks we will likely see a top 3-5 potential pick going to the NFC West again, maybe a #1 overall pick. HOU will be throwing a rook QB and 1st time HC out there, there will be growing pains.

I do think it's cool Demeco went to Bama and so did Anderson, I'm gonna root for Texans

When the Cardinals actually took Murray over Bosa I was a little shocked.

Last night I was feeling sick to my stomach when the cardinals and Seahawks picked and the DT Anderson was still on the board. I was thinking we would have to deal with Donald and this guy twice a year. When they both passed on him it just reminded me that we don't have to worry about the cardinals making good draft decisions. In other words, who cares what picks the cards have? LOL

Originally posted by glorydayz:
When the Cardinals actually took Murray over Bosa I was a little shocked.

Last night I was feeling sick to my stomach when the cardinals and Seahawks picked and the DT Anderson was still on the board. I was thinking we would have to deal with Donald and this guy twice a year. When they both passed on him it just reminded me that we don't have to worry about the cardinals making good draft decisions. In other words, who cares what picks the cards have? LOL