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Darius Robinson-DT/DE-Missouri

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
As expected, Robinson was not very freakish. Still a great prospect - combine didn't hurt or help.

35" vert at 285lbs is pretty ridiculous.

his explosive drills are legit impressive


Aldon Smith for reference:

6' 4''

WEIGHT
263 lbs

ARM
35 3/8''

HAND
9 3/4''

40-Yard Dash

4.82
Seconds

10-Yard Split
1.68
Seconds

Vertical Jump
34''

Broad Jump
9' 10''

3-Cone Drill
7.19
Seconds

20-Yd Shuttle
4.5
Seconds

Bench Press
20
Reps
[ Edited by Waterbear on Feb 29, 2024 at 7:59 PM ]
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I dont think there's anything he can do today to raise his stock

I mean it will backup all the talk about how freakish he is. Already has damn good film, had a great Senior Bowl, now toss in great combine #s? Just checking the boxes.

Do the 49ers have any real chance at getting this guy? Would they pass up a good tackle to take him? I don't know.

He very realistically could be there

I'd be less surprised about him going in the first 20 picks of the second round than I would be about him going in the first 20 picks of the 1st round
He seems like a better fit at tackle than DE. He's a little slow for an edge rusher. If they want a oure edge spped guy then Chop Robinson would be the guy if he's available.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
He seems like a better fit at tackle than DE. He's a little slow for an edge rusher. If they want a oure edge spped guy then Chop Robinson would be the guy if he's available.

Robinson would be more of a replacement for Armstead. Someone that could play DE on base downs and be moved inside on passing downs or however they wanted to use him. His versatility is a major plus.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
He seems like a better fit at tackle than DE. He's a little slow for an edge rusher. If they want a oure edge spped guy then Chop Robinson would be the guy if he's available.

Robinson would be more of a replacement for Armstead. Someone that could play DE on base downs and be moved inside on passing downs or however they wanted to use him. His versatility is a major plus.

I would like to see the 49ers add a fast edge rusher. All the guys they have now are more power rush than speed rush. It would be nice to have speed off the edge to compliment Bosa on the other side. I have no idea what they will draft at 31. They may trade or just take the best guy that can play right away.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I would like to see the 49ers add a fast edge rusher. All the guys they have now are more power rush than speed rush. It would be nice to have speed off the edge to compliment Bosa on the other side. I have no idea what they will draft at 31. They may trade or just take the best guy that can play right away.

I think you can always find a spot for someone like Robinson who plays with a tremendous motor and can be moved all over the DL. One of their biggest issues this past season was their inability to stop the run when they really needed to and Robinson would provide a huge boost there especially along with added pass rushing.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I would like to see the 49ers add a fast edge rusher. All the guys they have now are more power rush than speed rush. It would be nice to have speed off the edge to compliment Bosa on the other side. I have no idea what they will draft at 31. They may trade or just take the best guy that can play right away.

I think you can always find a spot for someone like Robinson who plays with a tremendous motor and can be moved all over the DL. One of their biggest issues this past season was their inability to stop the run when they really needed to and Robinson would provide a huge boost there especially along with added pass rushing.

This.

And as far as a speed rusher, I liked what I saw from our rookie 5th rounder. I thought he looked quick out there.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
As expected, Robinson was not very freakish. Still a great prospect - combine didn't hurt or help.

35" vert at 285lbs is pretty ridiculous.

his explosive drills are legit impressive


I like Robinson a lot but somewhat nervous about the tweener thing again. Aldon made the transition no problem but an extra 20 lbs to carry on the edge is a lot.

It's clear the guy can move for his size tho. Similar to Sweat at DT. 5.27 40 time isn't going to impress anyone but when you remember the guy is 366 lbs and you actually see HOW he runs the number is actually crazy impressive.

Long story short I don't think Robinson's combine moves the needle on his draft status either way.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
As expected, Robinson was not very freakish. Still a great prospect - combine didn't hurt or help.

35" vert at 285lbs is pretty ridiculous.

his explosive drills are legit impressive


I like Robinson a lot but somewhat nervous about the tweener thing again. Aldon made the transition no problem but an extra 20 lbs to carry on the edge is a lot.

It's clear the guy can move for his size tho. Similar to Sweat at DT. 5.27 40 time isn't going to impress anyone but when you remember the guy is 366 lbs and you actually see HOW he runs the number is actually crazy impressive.

Long story short I don't think Robinson's combine moves the needle on his draft status either way.

I imagine Robinson could add 20 lbs if he was told that they wanted him to play inside. He was moved outside just last year so he probably dropped a little weight.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I would like to see the 49ers add a fast edge rusher. All the guys they have now are more power rush than speed rush. It would be nice to have speed off the edge to compliment Bosa on the other side. I have no idea what they will draft at 31. They may trade or just take the best guy that can play right away.

I think you can always find a spot for someone like Robinson who plays with a tremendous motor and can be moved all over the DL. One of their biggest issues this past season was their inability to stop the run when they really needed to and Robinson would provide a huge boost there especially along with added pass rushing.

This.

And as far as a speed rusher, I liked what I saw from our rookie 5th rounder. I thought he looked quick out there.

We didn't see much. He only appeared in 4 games and had one sack. I have to wonder why he didn't get more playing time with that type of speed off the edge. Maybe it was Wilks preference for bigger guys I don't know.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
As expected, Robinson was not very freakish. Still a great prospect - combine didn't hurt or help.

35" vert at 285lbs is pretty ridiculous.

his explosive drills are legit impressive


I like Robinson a lot but somewhat nervous about the tweener thing again. Aldon made the transition no problem but an extra 20 lbs to carry on the edge is a lot.

It's clear the guy can move for his size tho. Similar to Sweat at DT. 5.27 40 time isn't going to impress anyone but when you remember the guy is 366 lbs and you actually see HOW he runs the number is actually crazy impressive.

Long story short I don't think Robinson's combine moves the needle on his draft status either way.

I imagine Robinson could add 20 lbs if he was told that they wanted him to play inside. He was moved outside just last year so he probably dropped a little weight.

That's true. Though I'm hoping our days of asking guys to drop/add weight or changing their positions are behind us. Don't recall any recent success stories with that.

Also not sure why the RAS ranking was made vs DTs if he's considered a DE right now.
[ Edited by genus49 on Mar 1, 2024 at 8:55 AM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think you can always find a spot for someone like Robinson who plays with a tremendous motor and can be moved all over the DL. One of their biggest issues this past season was their inability to stop the run when they really needed to and Robinson would provide a huge boost there especially along with added pass rushing.

Definitely the ability to play inside and out makes him a strong possibility at 31
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
As expected, Robinson was not very freakish. Still a great prospect - combine didn't hurt or help.

35" vert at 285lbs is pretty ridiculous.

his explosive drills are legit impressive


I like Robinson a lot but somewhat nervous about the tweener thing again. Aldon made the transition no problem but an extra 20 lbs to carry on the edge is a lot.

It's clear the guy can move for his size tho. Similar to Sweat at DT. 5.27 40 time isn't going to impress anyone but when you remember the guy is 366 lbs and you actually see HOW he runs the number is actually crazy impressive.

Long story short I don't think Robinson's combine moves the needle on his draft status either way.

I imagine Robinson could add 20 lbs if he was told that they wanted him to play inside. He was moved outside just last year so he probably dropped a little weight.

That's true. Though I'm hoping our days of asking guys to drop/add weight or changing their positions are behind us. Don't recall any recent success stories with that.

Also not sure why the RAS ranking was made vs DTs if he's considered a DE right now.

THe difference is Robinson played more at DT than DE in college. He played at 305 when he was a tackle. It's not like asking a player to move to a position he's never played.
Just quickly watched some film since he seems to be a favorite of 49ers' fans. Obviously, the dude is physically gifted. A lot of impressive reps on tape, but holy hell, dude seems wildly uncontroled at times. His pass-rush plan needs to be refined. I didn't see a primary counter move. He negates his physical gifts by taking s**tty angles on entry with his rushes. Body type wise, he reminds me a lot of Charles Omenihu, who was 6-5 280 at the combine and played everywhere along the DL.

Omenihu dropped like 20 pounds after joining the 49ers and getting situated into the wide 9.
[ Edited by Heroism on Mar 1, 2024 at 9:33 AM ]
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
As expected, Robinson was not very freakish. Still a great prospect - combine didn't hurt or help.

35" vert at 285lbs is pretty ridiculous.

his explosive drills are legit impressive


I like Robinson a lot but somewhat nervous about the tweener thing again. Aldon made the transition no problem but an extra 20 lbs to carry on the edge is a lot.

It's clear the guy can move for his size tho. Similar to Sweat at DT. 5.27 40 time isn't going to impress anyone but when you remember the guy is 366 lbs and you actually see HOW he runs the number is actually crazy impressive.

Long story short I don't think Robinson's combine moves the needle on his draft status either way.

I imagine Robinson could add 20 lbs if he was told that they wanted him to play inside. He was moved outside just last year so he probably dropped a little weight.

That's true. Though I'm hoping our days of asking guys to drop/add weight or changing their positions are behind us. Don't recall any recent success stories with that.

Also not sure why the RAS ranking was made vs DTs if he's considered a DE right now.

To make him appear more athletic

He is a good player. 2nd round talent, that I'd love to have. Wouldn't mind him with our 1st, if the board falls that way. Base end, reduce inside on 3rd down. FWIW, I believe he played at 305 before moving to end more permanently. Definitely room to put more weight on if a team wants, but I wouldn't. He's somewhere between AA and Leonard Williams.
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