2024 Draft Class: OL

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I just watched my first tackle, Kingsley Suamataia, because I kept seeing Niners' fans mocking him at 31...

Bro, are you kidding me? I don't even know where to begin... Dude looks like a 330-pound Polynesian version of Mike McGlinchey--strong in run; poor in pass pro. Plays tall and CONSTANTLY gives up his chest; segmented, hoppy feet with s**tty kick slide; poor hand placement(wide/sloppy puncher (did show ability to reset)). I'm not an OL guy, but I know what good hands and feet look like. This dude's are a f**king mess. Also, something that has always bugged the hell out of me are OL that play passive and don't finish reps in pass pro. This dude seems borderline lackadaisical at times in pass pro. There's a rep or two where he stops playing in the middle of the rep and almost gets his QB hit.



edit maybe I started with a bad game? I just saw some clips on Twitter where his footwork is significantly cleaner at left tackle. Not so hoppy and keeping that post foot in the ground.

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Also, most of this applies to Guyton from Oklahoma as well, who is the prospect you should do next.

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:
Mike McGlinchey is no where near as strong. Suamataia is raw untapped POTENTIAL that would be redshirting a year since Mckivitz got that extension

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
There's a significant drop-off at tackle once you hit the late 1st which is why I'd rather see them trade down and pick up the 1st or 2nd best guard or center instead of the 7th or 8th best tackle.

The gap from Alt to Suamataia is a lot bigger than the dropoff from Suamataia to Fisher and some of the other 2nd/3rd tier tackles.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:
Mike McGlinchey is no where near as strong. Suamataia is raw untapped POTENTIAL that would be redshirting a year since Mckivitz got that extension

They don't need guys redshirting, they need guys that contribute Year 1. This isn't a rebuilding team, with their first couple of picks they need immediate contributors.

And I'm less worried about his strength and more worried about his mentality. For all his strength and untapped potential, too often he played Care Bear soft rather than demolishing his opponents.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
There's a significant drop-off at tackle once you hit the late 1st which is why I'd rather see them trade down and pick up the 1st or 2nd best guard or center instead of the 7th or 8th best tackle.

The gap from Alt to Suamataia is a lot bigger than the dropoff from Suamataia to Fisher and some of the other 2nd/3rd tier tackles.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:
Mike McGlinchey is no where near as strong. Suamataia is raw untapped POTENTIAL that would be redshirting a year since Mckivitz got that extension

They don't need guys redshirting, they need guys that contribute Year 1. This isn't a rebuilding team, with their first couple of picks they need immediate contributors.

And I'm less worried about his strength and more worried about his mentality. For all his strength and untapped potential, too often he played Care Bear soft rather than demolishing his opponents.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I'm starting to think we may draft 4 OL.

Feliciano is hurt and may want to go elsewhere.

Trent probably only plays two more years max. Burford sucks. McKivitz sucks. Team has no faith in Jaylon Moore.

Banks is in a contract year.

We have 4 immediate openings for starting competition and depth as of right now, with Colton getting backup money, Moore not able to beat him out, and Burford benched this year for a guy who is now a free agent.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I'm starting to think we may draft 4 OL.

Feliciano is hurt and may want to go elsewhere.

Trent probably only plays two more years max. Burford sucks. McKivitz sucks. Team has no faith in Jaylon Moore.

Banks is in a contract year.

We have 4 immediate openings for starting competition and depth as of right now, with Colton getting backup money, Moore not able to beat him out, and Burford benched this year for a guy who is now a free agent.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:
Mike McGlinchey is no where near as strong. Suamataia is raw untapped POTENTIAL that would be redshirting a year since Mckivitz got that extension

They don't need guys redshirting, they need guys that contribute Year 1. This isn't a rebuilding team, with their first couple of picks they need immediate contributors.

And I'm less worried about his strength and more worried about his mentality. For all his strength and untapped potential, too often he played Care Bear soft rather than demolishing his opponents.

This absolutely no excuse for freaking Mckivitz to be starting at any point next year short of an injury.

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Finally getting around to prospects and I feel like the consensus pick is Tyler Guyton, which I like. Instant starter at RT and Colton can be a swing tackle.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:

I just watched my first tackle, Kingsley Suamataia, because I kept seeing Niners' fans mocking him at 31...

Bro, are you kidding me? I don't even know where to begin... Dude looks like a 330-pound Polynesian version of Mike McGlinchey--strong in run; poor in pass pro. Plays tall and CONSTANTLY gives up his chest; segmented, hoppy feet with s**tty kick slide; poor hand placement(wide/sloppy puncher (did show ability to reset)). I'm not an OL guy, but I know what good hands and feet look like. This dude's are a f**king mess. Also, something that has always bugged the hell out of me are OL that play passive and don't finish reps in pass pro. This dude seems borderline lackadaisical at times in pass pro. There's a rep or two where he stops playing in the middle of the rep and almost gets his QB hit.



edit maybe I started with a bad game? I just saw some clips on Twitter where his footwork is significantly cleaner at left tackle. Not so hoppy and keeping that post foot in the ground.

.

Also, most of this applies to Guyton from Oklahoma as well, who is the prospect you should do next.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I just watched my first tackle, Kingsley Suamataia, because I kept seeing Niners' fans mocking him at 31...

Bro, are you kidding me? I don't even know where to begin... Dude looks like a 330-pound Polynesian version of Mike McGlinchey--strong in run; poor in pass pro. Plays tall and CONSTANTLY gives up his chest; segmented, hoppy feet with s**tty kick slide; poor hand placement(wide/sloppy puncher (did show ability to reset)). I'm not an OL guy, but I know what good hands and feet look like. This dude's are a f**king mess. Also, something that has always bugged the hell out of me are OL that play passive and don't finish reps in pass pro. This dude seems borderline lackadaisical at times in pass pro. There's a rep or two where he stops playing in the middle of the rep and almost gets his QB hit.



edit maybe I started with a bad game? I just saw some clips on Twitter where his footwork is significantly cleaner at left tackle. Not so hoppy and keeping that post foot in the ground.

.

Also, most of this applies to Guyton from Oklahoma as well, who is the prospect you should do next.

Whatever you watched, hero, must've been him as a freshman. Dude is only a sophomore coming out. He is raw af but has made strides since his first year. He's not a first rounder. I'll admit that. But he probably still goes in the second, or at least top 75 at worst IMO.