2024 Draft Class: OL

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by miked1978:
I think the value at 31 is the offensive line or cornerback positions. I have a feeling that's how the big board stacks up and they'll going to have to predict if they go OT at 31 what CB is there at 63 or vice versa.

Dont rule out EDGE depending on how Chase Young stuff goes. But I'm with you. I think OT/CB/DE is the most likely route

You are 100% right but I think I'll scream if they draft d line in the first again. Maybe they do keep Young a year or two? Would make sense. Has to be o line unless someone else fell.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:

3rd round value

I think he goes higher than 3rd once he kills the combine. OTs are always a premium and every team wants

Yeah he's a top 50 pick right now imo.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by miked1978:
I think the value at 31 is the offensive line or cornerback positions. I have a feeling that's how the big board stacks up and they'll going to have to predict if they go OT at 31 what CB is there at 63 or vice versa.

Dont rule out EDGE depending on how Chase Young stuff goes. But I'm with you. I think OT/CB/DE is the most likely route

You are 100% right but I think I'll scream if they draft d line in the first again. Maybe they do keep Young a year or two? Would make sense. Has to be o line unless someone else fell.

Same. It isn't just the multiple picks invested. It's the fact that it hasn't worked. And I don't even blame Kyle and Lynch for trying, but we saw the video with Kyle talking to the refs about Kansas City's holding. What happened? Not a single freaking call. I know there's a need at edge, but I've said before, going there again would be stupid. Put those premium picks into OL and CB.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Same. It isn't just the multiple picks invested. It's the fact that it hasn't worked. And I don't even blame Kyle and Lynch for trying, but we saw the video with Kyle talking to the refs about Kansas City's holding. What happened? Not a single freaking call. I know there's a need at edge, but I've said before, going there again would be stupid. Put those premium picks into OL and CB.

I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

To me, it really depends who falls. My order of desire would be Jackson Powers-Johnson (IOL) > Amarius Mims (OT) > Troy Fautanu (OL) > Terrion Arnold (CB) > Quinyon Mitchell (CB) > Cooper DeJean (DB) > Darius Robinson (DL)

Considering it's highly unlikely any of those players minus Robinson will be available, it'd be Robinson for me. If he's gone as well, I'd look to trade down

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

Completely agree. I think we have a chance to get an all-pro caliber IOL with our first pick. At OT, I'd rather wait til the 2nd-4th. I think we should be able to double dip at IOL in the 3rd-5th range as well if we like.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

To me, it really depends who falls. My order of desire would be Jackson Powers-Johnson (IOL) > Amarius Mims (OT) > Troy Fautanu (OL) > Terrion Arnold (CB) > Quinyon Mitchell (CB) > Cooper DeJean (DB) > Darius Robinson (DL)

Considering it's highly unlikely any of those players minus Robinson will be available, it'd be Robinson for me. If he's gone as well, I'd look to trade down

I think they have a shot at these two plus Guyton or Morgan in R1.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

To me, it really depends who falls. My order of desire would be Jackson Powers-Johnson (IOL) > Amarius Mims (OT) > Troy Fautanu (OL) > Terrion Arnold (CB) > Quinyon Mitchell (CB) > Cooper DeJean (DB) > Darius Robinson (DL)

Considering it's highly unlikely any of those players minus Robinson will be available, it'd be Robinson for me. If he's gone as well, I'd look to trade down

I think they have a shot at these two plus Guyton or Morgan in R1.

That was me talking about taking the best IOL over the 10th tackle etc.

I see a lot of mocks showing the F'in rams taking Powers-Johnson and Steelers Fautanu now. Evan see Frazier going to Detroit in some mocks Literally last week all were down at the bottom of 1/ top 2nd.

I hate looking at the draft this early because guys always rise up.

I really want a center, but if its not there they should take BPA who can play tackle or slide in at guard. If its really not a guy they love maybe there's a CB there?

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

To me, it really depends who falls. My order of desire would be Jackson Powers-Johnson (IOL) > Amarius Mims (OT) > Troy Fautanu (OL) > Terrion Arnold (CB) > Quinyon Mitchell (CB) > Cooper DeJean (DB) > Darius Robinson (DL)

Considering it's highly unlikely any of those players minus Robinson will be available, it'd be Robinson for me. If he's gone as well, I'd look to trade down

I think they have a shot at these two plus Guyton or Morgan in R1.

That was me talking about taking the best IOL over the 10th tackle etc.

I see a lot of mocks showing the F'in rams taking Powers-Johnson and Steelers Fautanu now. Evan see Frazier going to Detroit in some mocks Literally last week all were down at the bottom of 1/ top 2nd.

I hate looking at the draft this early because guys always rise up.

I really want a center, but if its not there they should take BPA who can play tackle or slide in at guard. If its really not a guy they love maybe there's a CB there?

I feel like we should go BPA between OL and DL. Our greatest need is OL help. Our second greatest need is tied between CB2 and DE2. Lenoir could be that guy, so maybe they look for pass rush first and then slot CB and 3T of the future in the middle of the draft.

Draft 3 or 4 O linemen. If they hit on 2 or 3 great. If only one works out then they can live with it. I always think back to when Walsh saw a need for DBs and took 4 in the 1981 draft. 3 were immediate starters and made the pro bowl. The other was a backup.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:

3rd round value

I think he goes higher than 3rd once he kills the combine. OTs are always a premium and every team wants

Yeah he's a top 50 pick right now imo.

He's a T that transitions to guard imo. caleb williams and drake maye are the only qbs worthy of rd 1 so if 5 go in the first awesome but I think devin leary is this years brock purdy with a stronger arm. Really though I used to geek out about prospects before and it's hard to say where anyone will go imo. every year you'll see 1rst round rated players drop

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:

3rd round value

I think he goes higher than 3rd once he kills the combine. OTs are always a premium and every team wants

Yeah he's a top 50 pick right now imo.

He's a T that transitions to guard imo. caleb williams and drake maye are the only qbs worthy of rd 1 so if 5 go in the first awesome but I think devin leary is this years brock purdy with a stronger arm. Really though I used to geek out about prospects before and it's hard to say where anyone will go imo. every year you'll see 1rst round rated players drop

I see you on Devin Leary. I totally miss you with Caleb Williams.

When watching Brenden Rice it seemed to me that everything from Caleb were off-schedule stuff. Very few on time stuff. That had me go through Caleb on his own and still seen alot of the same stuff.

I love Leary for us later in the draft. If I was picking top 2 give me Jayden Daniels

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erFaithfullest:

3rd round value

I think he goes higher than 3rd once he kills the combine. OTs are always a premium and every team wants

Yeah he's a top 50 pick right now imo.

He's a T that transitions to guard imo. caleb williams and drake maye are the only qbs worthy of rd 1 so if 5 go in the first awesome but I think devin leary is this years brock purdy with a stronger arm. Really though I used to geek out about prospects before and it's hard to say where anyone will go imo. every year you'll see 1rst round rated players drop

I see you on Devin Leary. I totally miss you with Caleb Williams.

When watching Brenden Rice it seemed to me that everything from Caleb were off-schedule stuff. Very few on time stuff. That had me go through Caleb on his own and still seen alot of the same stuff.

I love Leary for us later in the draft. If I was picking top 2 give me Jayden Daniels

jayden daniel seems like another justin fields

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

To me, it really depends who falls. My order of desire would be Jackson Powers-Johnson (IOL) > Amarius Mims (OT) > Troy Fautanu (OL) > Terrion Arnold (CB) > Quinyon Mitchell (CB) > Cooper DeJean (DB) > Darius Robinson (DL)

Considering it's highly unlikely any of those players minus Robinson will be available, it'd be Robinson for me. If he's gone as well, I'd look to trade down

I think they have a shot at these two plus Guyton or Morgan in R1.

That was me talking about taking the best IOL over the 10th tackle etc.

I see a lot of mocks showing the F'in rams taking Powers-Johnson and Steelers Fautanu now. Evan see Frazier going to Detroit in some mocks Literally last week all were down at the bottom of 1/ top 2nd.

I hate looking at the draft this early because guys always rise up.

I really want a center, but if its not there they should take BPA who can play tackle or slide in at guard. If its really not a guy they love maybe there's a CB there?

JPJ is the only center worthy of R1, the other guys are R3 at best IMO. 31 is kind of a dead zone for OL nad even CBs. I just hope one of Guyton, Mims, Morgan, ot Fautanu is there. CBs, guessing the top 4 are gone then maybe Lassiter...not too much a reach at 31. One or two teams always reach (Raiders) so hopefully they do again and one of those OL falls to 31. Never know.