2024 Draft Class: OL

Originally posted by frankieuc68:
Yeah, I like Fisher too if he's there in the 3rd. I agree with most of you guys here to go get the top rated interior OL in the first and the remaining top CB with our 2nd. If we miss out or if not Fisher in the 3rd, my guy is still Christian Jones out of Texas. Prototype size, a lot of experience and good movement with some nastiness.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by frankieuc68:
Yeah, I like Fisher too if he's there in the 3rd. I agree with most of you guys here to go get the top rated interior OL in the first and the remaining top CB with our 2nd. If we miss out or if not Fisher in the 3rd, my guy is still Christian Jones out of Texas. Prototype size, a lot of experience and good movement with some nastiness.

That's another good option.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Draft 3 or 4 O linemen. If they hit on 2 or 3 great. If only one works out then they can live with it. I always think back to when Walsh saw a need for DBs and took 4 in the 1981 draft. 3 were immediate starters and made the pro bowl. The other was a backup.

Kyle doesn't trust most rookies. He buries them for a year or two tbh. I wish he had more balls like Walsh.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

To me, it really depends who falls. My order of desire would be Jackson Powers-Johnson (IOL) > Amarius Mims (OT) > Troy Fautanu (OL) > Terrion Arnold (CB) > Quinyon Mitchell (CB) > Cooper DeJean (DB) > Darius Robinson (DL)

Considering it's highly unlikely any of those players minus Robinson will be available, it'd be Robinson for me. If he's gone as well, I'd look to trade down

I think they have a shot at these two plus Guyton or Morgan in R1.

That was me talking about taking the best IOL over the 10th tackle etc.

I see a lot of mocks showing the F'in rams taking Powers-Johnson and Steelers Fautanu now. Evan see Frazier going to Detroit in some mocks Literally last week all were down at the bottom of 1/ top 2nd.

I hate looking at the draft this early because guys always rise up.

I really want a center, but if its not there they should take BPA who can play tackle or slide in at guard. If its really not a guy they love maybe there's a CB there?

JPJ is the only center worthy of R1, the other guys are R3 at best IMO. 31 is kind of a dead zone for OL nad even CBs. I just hope one of Guyton, Mims, Morgan, ot Fautanu is there. CBs, guessing the top 4 are gone then maybe Lassiter...not too much a reach at 31. One or two teams always reach (Raiders) so hopefully they do again and one of those OL falls to 31. Never know.

Good to know. I see Frazier going end r1 through mid rd2 in mocks so far. I know we need it but my god it can't be d line in rd1 again- nooooooo lol

Frazier should be a top 50 pick too IMO.

Our team, man, they gotta understand how much more value a top tier offensive lineman brings than any other position right now.

A star OL will help the entire offense be more effective. Every guy benefits. The linemen next to him not having to worry, Purdy more time, CMC more room to run, receivers a chance to get open and be seen in time.

There's plenty of ways we can get great overall value, but the bottom line is this draft we're drafting to replace guys over the next 2-4 years and beyond.

You're right on Frazier, one site had him at 80ish, that was an outlier. All others had him in that 50-60 range.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I feel like they could trade down a few spots and still get him. Depends how much they value the fifth year option and how good they believe that he can be.

It does seem like there will be a major run on tackles in the 1st round and guards/centers in the 2nd.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
49ers gotta take him at #31, they cannot wait till #62. Then take best available CB in the 2nd round.

I feel like they could trade down a few spots and still get him. Depends how much they value the fifth year option and how good they believe that he can be.

It does seem like there will be a major run on tackles in the 1st round and guards/centers in the 2nd.

If we had a guy in mind, maybe we can trade back a few spots and still land some top tier players at IOL

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Draft 3 or 4 O linemen. If they hit on 2 or 3 great. If only one works out then they can live with it. I always think back to when Walsh saw a need for DBs and took 4 in the 1981 draft. 3 were immediate starters and made the pro bowl. The other was a backup.

Kyle doesn't trust most rookies. He buries them for a year or two tbh. I wish he had more balls like Walsh.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think positions like OT and EDGE are groups where more often than not, the good/great players are higher end picks. Most often you're not finding really good EDGE rushers out of the 1st 2 rds. The same (to a lesser extent) is true with OT.

I feel like you can find good IOL talent outside of the top 64 picks. Same with WR/LBer/DBs. Scheme fit is big there. EDGE and OT overall need to be able to do the same s**t regardless of the scheme.

Also to play devils advocate about the no call stuff, wouldn't that also make OT less of a premium? I mean if they can just all hold all the time

Someone else said it and I agree, I'd much rather see them go after one of the top 2 or 3 interior OL's or LB's in the draft then the 9th or 10th best tackle. Whoever they draft in the first two rounds, they need starters and contributors, not projects.

To me, it really depends who falls. My order of desire would be Jackson Powers-Johnson (IOL) > Amarius Mims (OT) > Troy Fautanu (OL) > Terrion Arnold (CB) > Quinyon Mitchell (CB) > Cooper DeJean (DB) > Darius Robinson (DL)

Considering it's highly unlikely any of those players minus Robinson will be available, it'd be Robinson for me. If he's gone as well, I'd look to trade down

I think they have a shot at these two plus Guyton or Morgan in R1.

That was me talking about taking the best IOL over the 10th tackle etc.

I see a lot of mocks showing the F'in rams taking Powers-Johnson and Steelers Fautanu now. Evan see Frazier going to Detroit in some mocks Literally last week all were down at the bottom of 1/ top 2nd.

I hate looking at the draft this early because guys always rise up.

I really want a center, but if its not there they should take BPA who can play tackle or slide in at guard. If its really not a guy they love maybe there's a CB there?

JPJ is the only center worthy of R1, the other guys are R3 at best IMO. 31 is kind of a dead zone for OL nad even CBs. I just hope one of Guyton, Mims, Morgan, ot Fautanu is there. CBs, guessing the top 4 are gone then maybe Lassiter...not too much a reach at 31. One or two teams always reach (Raiders) so hopefully they do again and one of those OL falls to 31. Never know.

Good to know. I see Frazier going end r1 through mid rd2 in mocks so far. I know we need it but my god it can't be d line in rd1 again- nooooooo lol

Frazier should be a top 50 pick too IMO.

Our team, man, they gotta understand how much more value a top tier offensive lineman brings than any other position right now.

A star OL will help the entire offense be more effective. Every guy benefits. The linemen next to him not having to worry, Purdy more time, CMC more room to run, receivers a chance to get open and be seen in time.

There's plenty of ways we can get great overall value, but the bottom line is this draft we're drafting to replace guys over the next 2-4 years and beyond.

You're right on Frazier, one site had him at 80ish, that was an outlier. All others had him in that 50-60 range.

Upgrading the o-line is the one goal they must strive for.

Frazier will be near our pick once draft day hits. I see Powers Johnson already in the teens in some mocks now (and usually to the seahawks or rams...sheesh)

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I feel like they could trade down a few spots and still get him. Depends how much they value the fifth year option and how good they believe that he can be.

It does seem like there will be a major run on tackles in the 1st round and guards/centers in the 2nd.

This is a great point. We could possibly trade down and pick up some more ammo while still getting the guy, but that 5th year option is sexy. I wish we got the crazy offer like Carolina years back where we gave them our 3rd for their 1st the next year.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This is the best draft for O linemen in years. Every team will likely take advantage and beef up their line. I hate to trade back because then you are probably getting the 15th best O linemen in the draft. Then we spend rhe next 3 years complaining that the guy sucks.

I now there's a chance that you can get a good player with a later pick but how many times have we argued on this forum that Kyle doesn't put a premium on the O line. This is the year to prioritize the line.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This is the best draft for O linemen in years. Every team will likely take advantage and beef up their line. I hate to trade back because then you are probably getting the 15th best O linemen in the draft. Then we spend rhe next 3 years complaining that the guy sucks.

I now there's a chance that you can get a good player with a later pick but how many times have we argued on this forum that Kyle doesn't put a premium on the O line. This is the year to prioritize the line.

Agree, playing devils advocate…since this is such a great OL class…trading back and getting the 15 best OL might be the 8-10 best in a regular draft.

honestly when you're drafting as low as SF is, just go BPA. Above all you want whomever you draft to be a good player. If it's an IOL so be it.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I want 4 OL.

1 Jackson Powers-Johnson, center with guard flexibility
3 Kiran Amegadjie, RG potential with longterm upside of a T.Will replacement
3 Dominick Puni, RG potential with tackle-in-a-pinch versatility
5 Christian Jones, RT potential with guard flexibility

JPJ, if he had 33+" arms, would be the Quenton Nelson of center prospects. His arms are 3218.

Kiran will need time for an upgrade in competition, but he has all the tools

Puni is the dancing bear archetype

Jones is long and strong

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by frankieuc68:
Yeah, I like Fisher too if he's there in the 3rd. I agree with most of you guys here to go get the top rated interior OL in the first and the remaining top CB with our 2nd. If we miss out or if not Fisher in the 3rd, my guy is still Christian Jones out of Texas. Prototype size, a lot of experience and good movement with some nastiness.

That's another good option.

Hes who I have as the ideal plug and play RT as well. If I'm picking a RT late and really hoping/needing that he runs away with the starting job year one, I want a guy with at least a singular defining trait. Jones can toss guys out the club.

Originally posted by 9erred:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
I want 4 OL.

1 Jackson Powers-Johnson, center with guard flexibility
3 Kiran Amegadjie, RG potential with longterm upside of a T.Will replacement
3 Dominick Puni, RG potential with tackle-in-a-pinch versatility
5 Christian Jones, RT potential with guard flexibility

JPJ, if he had 33+" arms, would be the Quenton Nelson of center prospects. His arms are 3218.

Kiran will need time for an upgrade in competition, but he has all the tools

Puni is the dancing bear archetype

Jones is long and strong

4 OL?? just pray they don't take DE round 1, and safety round 2, and rb round 3. ;)

LT- Trent Williams
LG Aaron Banks
C Jake Brendel
RG Spencer Burford
RT Colin Mckivitz

back up swing tackle Jaylon Moore
Center- Joe Feliciano
Guard-Nick Sadej

So if its me, I am focusing on TWO Tackles, one for the Right side and one to develop for the LT spot. Then ONE Center/Guard option.

I would love round 1, best RT available
Round 2 -LT available

Round 4 center guard combo

Originally posted by frankieuc68:
Then you add that every team has different ranking and how a player fits their system. For example and just speculating, Maybe a player like Banks that we rank the number 3 Guard in our draft board couple of years ago was only number 6 for another team on their board. Hence people calling that a reach pick. So we can say ahh.. why not that player rather than this player. Some work out and others don't. It's a crapshoot.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Keep an eye on OL short shuffle this week at the combine. The magic number is 4.47 or better.

Since 2010, just 28 Offensive Linemen recorded a 4.47 short shuttle or better at the NFL Combine

24 were drafted

Those 24 went on to start 84% of their NFL games. It's a cheat code.

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