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2024 Draft Class: DE

Apr 19, 2024 at 7:22 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
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That spin move

Sucked tbh. Didn't sell speed at all. Won't work at the NFL level that easily.

edit Link wasn't working and only showed 1 rep. 3rd rep wasn't bad. Dude looks interesting, tho.
[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 19, 2024 at 7:30 AM ]
Apr 19, 2024 at 7:51 AM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That spin move

Sucked tbh. Didn't sell speed at all. Won't work at the NFL level that easily.

edit Link wasn't working and only showed 1 rep. 3rd rep wasn't bad. Dude looks interesting, tho.

As a 43DE I just don't see it with Elliss. Maybe as a 34OLB, Leo, designated pass rusher or even blitzing LB he'd have a shot, but it's quite the projection. Dude is small (6'2" 245 lbs), weak, and tested well but doesn't always show it on game day, imo. He spams his inside spin move which tackles can just sit on in the NFL, and he does not have the strength to consistently work outside the tackle through contact so tackles can just recover if he learns to really feint the inside move outside of a nonthreatening eurostep. He's heavy footed, doesn't sell speed, can't bend through contact and isn't a speed to power threat. As a pass rusher, he might have some nice sacks untouched, but I wouldn't expect consistent production, and it's hard to not see him just getting consistently washed out in the run game as a base 43 end.

He does have a tremendous motor, which is evident throughout the entire game, so if he can work his explosive get off and that cross chop more, someone might get a decent rotational pass rusher that gets more productive as the game goes on.
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 19, 2024 at 7:58 AM ]
Apr 19, 2024 at 8:03 AM
This is considered a weak draft for DEs. Better for inside D and O line.
Apr 19, 2024 at 8:17 AM
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

That spin move

Sucked tbh. Didn't sell speed at all. Won't work at the NFL level that easily.

edit Link wasn't working and only showed 1 rep. 3rd rep wasn't bad. Dude looks interesting, tho.

As a 43DE I just don't see it with Elliss. Maybe as a 34OLB, Leo, designated pass rusher or even blitzing LB he'd have a shot, but it's quite the projection. Dude is small (6'2" 245 lbs), weak, and tested well but doesn't always show it on game day, imo. He spams his inside spin move which tackles can just sit on in the NFL, and he does not have the strength to consistently work outside the tackle through contact so tackles can just recover if he learns to really feint the inside move outside of a nonthreatening eurostep. He's heavy footed, doesn't sell speed, can't bend through contact and isn't a speed to power threat. As a pass rusher, he might have some nice sacks untouched, but I wouldn't expect consistent production, and it's hard to not see him just getting consistently washed out in the run game as a base 43 end.

He does have a tremendous motor, which is evident throughout the entire game, so if he can work his explosive get off and that cross chop more, someone might get a decent rotational pass rusher that gets more productive as the game goes on.

I haven't watched any of him or most of these pass rushers. Just a clips or two that pops up on my feed. I don't really have any opinions on him or what he could be.

Really the only guys I've spent any sort of time on is Darius Robinson (I'm out in the 1st) and just some quick highlights of Chop Robinson.
Apr 19, 2024 at 8:19 AM
I alway trust his evaluation on DL. This is his rankings/tiers


He's got a late 3rd on Darius Robinson 👀
Apr 19, 2024 at 8:32 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I alway trust his evaluation on DL. This is his rankings/tiers


He's got a late 3rd on Darius Robinson 👀

I also highly value Ledyard's pass rusher analysis. He's a big traits guy, and he looks for "what (at least) one way do I know this guy can win in the NFL" maybe it's not pretty, maybe it's one dimensional, but a win is a win. Does this player have a trump card he can rely on in the NFL? Looks like he's not so sure about Robinson
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 19, 2024 at 8:33 AM ]
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