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Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Dude wtf are you talking about. Barton is a slam dunk prospect and versatility is a GOOD thing. So glad you're not in our front office!
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Dude wtf are you talking about. Barton is a slam dunk prospect and versatility is a GOOD thing. So glad you're not in our front office!
For whatever reason I had it in my mind never played center. So that portion of my post was clearly a mistake. Though he's still on MY do not draft list.
Versatility is a good thing. However, if everyone in the universe thinks he's a center and not an OT is he really Versatile
Originally posted by 9RVOLS:Yeah, for me too. Add Patrick Paul, Darius Robinson in the 1st and WR A. Mitchell to your list.
Chop Robinson - Not enough production.
Jordan Morgan - Seems to be better suited for Guard.
Xavier Worthy - I would prefer multiple other receivers over him.
Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
You're acting like it's the 10th pick. It's not. Plus - he can and probably ultimately would play center. Dude is super smart and simply put a first round talent.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But 49ers defense do play a lot of zone, that's why I like DeJean. Also he doesn't look all that bad in man coverage, he may not standout but at least he plays the ball and not always the receiver.
Didn't Joshua Jackson have attitude problems?? Could've sworn he was a headcase? But DeJean is also a lot more versatile than Jackson was. If they don't go O-line, DeJean would be perfect for this defense if he's there.
Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Ooof. The logic exercised here. A dude can play every position on the line but yet there's a path to questioning whether he's versatile. Ok.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But 49ers defense do play a lot of zone, that's why I like DeJean. Also he doesn't look all that bad in man coverage, he may not standout but at least he plays the ball and not always the receiver.
Didn't Joshua Jackson have attitude problems?? Could've sworn he was a headcase? But DeJean is also a lot more versatile than Jackson was. If they don't go O-line, DeJean would be perfect for this defense if he's there.
You don't need to draft zone coverage CBs in the first…hence why we never have drafted a CB that high….you gotta be a good man coverage CB to go in the 1st.
no jackson didn't have attitude issues…he was a zone only guy, stiff and no supper fluid as well. Had 8 INTs his last yr…cooper is a much better athlete. Still all of the negatives imo.
I disagree that he would a perfect player for this defense and it would be a reach if it's to play him at CB. I hope someone else takes him
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Ooof. The logic exercised here. A dude can play every position on the line but yet there's a path to questioning whether he's versatile. Ok.
Colton and Burnskill can play all over the OL as well….what Krizay is saying is how is it being versatile when everyone is saying that he's NOT an OT in the NFL? So he's an IOL, cool that makes his value much much less.
again if the plan is for him to be center that's much better. If it's to play RG. I'm out.
Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:He's not done because he refuses to be wrong. He must always be right.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Ooof. The logic exercised here. A dude can play every position on the line but yet there's a path to questioning whether he's versatile. Ok.
Colton and Burnskill can play all over the OL as well….what Krizay is saying is how is it being versatile when everyone is saying that he's NOT an OT in the NFL? So he's an IOL, cool that makes his value much much less.
again if the plan is for him to be center that's much better. If it's to play RG. I'm out.
I thought you were done cool guy.
How many major college starts does he have at LT? Regardless of his projection, that means he can play tackle if needed.
we can disagree to disagree, cuz you're both wrong.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But 49ers defense do play a lot of zone, that's why I like DeJean. Also he doesn't look all that bad in man coverage, he may not standout but at least he plays the ball and not always the receiver.
Didn't Joshua Jackson have attitude problems?? Could've sworn he was a headcase? But DeJean is also a lot more versatile than Jackson was. If they don't go O-line, DeJean would be perfect for this defense if he's there.
You don't need to draft zone coverage CBs in the first…hence why we never have drafted a CB that high….you gotta be a good man coverage CB to go in the 1st.
no jackson didn't have attitude issues…he was a zone only guy, stiff and no supper fluid as well. Had 8 INTs his last yr…cooper is a much better athlete. Still all of the negatives imo.
I disagree that he would a perfect player for this defense and it would be a reach if it's to play him at CB. I hope someone else takes him
Originally posted by stonecold590:
I don't understand the dislike of Ladd McConKey route running abilities. He may be the best pure Route runner in this draft. At the least top 3. I see where people may not want him at 31 and I can understand that. But don't knock the dude on his route running of all things.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
But 49ers defense do play a lot of zone, that's why I like DeJean. Also he doesn't look all that bad in man coverage, he may not standout but at least he plays the ball and not always the receiver.
Didn't Joshua Jackson have attitude problems?? Could've sworn he was a headcase? But DeJean is also a lot more versatile than Jackson was. If they don't go O-line, DeJean would be perfect for this defense if he's there.
You don't need to draft zone coverage CBs in the first…hence why we never have drafted a CB that high….you gotta be a good man coverage CB to go in the 1st.
no jackson didn't have attitude issues…he was a zone only guy, stiff and no supper fluid as well. Had 8 INTs his last yr…cooper is a much better athlete. Still all of the negatives imo.
I disagree that he would a perfect player for this defense and it would be a reach if it's to play him at CB. I hope someone else takes him
No white boy corners for this white boy, it just never seems to work out for them in the long run for whatever reason. Seahorn was the last memory worthy one, and he missed a ton of games and was prone to be injured.