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2025 Draft Prospect Watch List and Discussion

Apr 22, 2025 at 8:00 PM
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Lynch says they have 20 FR grades, so 12 guys who end up not meriting 1st round, according to Niner draft room.

I have 21
Apr 22, 2025 at 9:45 PM
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Lynch says they have 20 FR grades, so 12 guys who end up not meriting 1st round, according to Niner draft room.

I have 21
Interesting why Lynch would put that out there. A lot of so called analysts say this year has fewer first round graded players (12-14). Logically, if my team is drafting at 11, I'd say that range is right so that other teams may be enticed to trade up to 11. The only reason to say it is 20 is to make other teams think the 49ers are open to trade back (which seems to be reported already).
[ Edited by ltrain on Apr 22, 2025 at 9:46 PM ]
Apr 22, 2025 at 10:13 PM
Originally posted by ltrain:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Lynch says they have 20 FR grades, so 12 guys who end up not meriting 1st round, according to Niner draft room.

I have 21
Interesting why Lynch would put that out there. A lot of so called analysts say this year has fewer first round graded players (12-14). Logically, if my team is drafting at 11, I'd say that range is right so that other teams may be enticed to trade up to 11. The only reason to say it is 20 is to make other teams think the 49ers are open to trade back (which seems to be reported already).

I think he's being honest, whilst also saying, fine we'll trade back around there. I think mine is around there now, did it before and had 16, but I'm now happier with Green now I know it's not Domestic Abuse, Harmon got one after more study, Zabel and even though he's not on my board Shedeur has a fringe first round grade for me.
Apr 22, 2025 at 10:23 PM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I think he's being honest, whilst also saying, fine we'll trade back around there. I think mine is around there now, did it before and had 16, but I'm now happier with Green now I know it's not Domestic Abuse, Harmon got one after more study, Zabel and even though he's not on my board Shedeur has a fringe first round grade for me.

Just giving you real talk. In the same breath he said more teams are looking to move back than up so he isn't playing chess here. Everybody has this as a weak blue chip but pretty good depth draft.
Apr 23, 2025 at 12:48 AM
Originally posted by scooterhd:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I think he's being honest, whilst also saying, fine we'll trade back around there. I think mine is around there now, did it before and had 16, but I'm now happier with Green now I know it's not Domestic Abuse, Harmon got one after more study, Zabel and even though he's not on my board Shedeur has a fringe first round grade for me.

Just giving you real talk. In the same breath he said more teams are looking to move back than up so he isn't playing chess here. Everybody has this as a weak blue chip but pretty good depth draft.

I think that's a good take, the weak blue chip is exacerbated by the lack of good QB's to push talent down as well. Last year was the the one to have a top 20 pick, not so much this year.
Apr 23, 2025 at 3:55 AM

14) The San Francisco 49ers are expected to stick and pick, hoping for an edge rusher.
Apr 23, 2025 at 4:01 AM
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'm expecting 3OL to go in the top 10.
For sure 2. Banks is on the bubble.

Allbright said Banks is going higher than people think. IMO he's a good OG next level, but some teams will view him as a OT. pats/Jets/Saints/Raiders/Bears are all in need of a OT. I wouldn't be shocked if someone out of top 10 moves up for one. Miami/Dallas/Houston etc has a need as well
Apr 23, 2025 at 4:09 AM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I think he's being honest, whilst also saying, fine we'll trade back around there. I think mine is around there now, did it before and had 16, but I'm now happier with Green now I know it's not Domestic Abuse, Harmon got one after more study, Zabel and even though he's not on my board Shedeur has a fringe first round grade for me.

How do you know it's not DV for Green?
Apr 23, 2025 at 4:15 AM
Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Originally posted by scooterhd:
Stewarts average time to first pressure last season was 2.43 seconds, the best mark in the FBS (Abdul Carter clocked in at 2.46 seconds).

After removing plays affected by quick game, play-action and double-team blocks, Stewart logged just 106 true pass sets last season, ranking 74th in the draft class. Should not expect elite sack totals from him. The production is down, but hes getting to the QB on a team that has a very low blitz rate. Would not be surprised with a Danielle Hunter type growth in this areas.

If they take him, a Danielle Hunter style growth arch is critical, otherwise he'd probably be a bust. I just think that they need guys with proven production at their schools, and I'm not sure Stewart is worth the risk.

Regardless of those metrics, he looks pretty lost as a pass rusher vs those true pass sets. Sacks are a little misleading overall but when I watch him, I see someone who doesn't know what he's doing…I would feel much much more comfortable taking Williams if we want a true blue 3 down 4-3 DE.
Apr 23, 2025 at 4:21 AM

he's pretty tied in with everything

has SF taking Nolen…..over Graham 👀

I'd be shocked if Nolen fell out of the top 15 at this point -- he might be the fastest riser in this draft. He's quick, is a people mover and has had a great predraft process. Everyone is focused on Ole Miss quarterback Jaxson Dart, but Nolen is the Rebels' prospect I hear about more. Don't be shocked if he goes before Mason Graham, the more heralded defensive tackle.

The defensive line was once a real strength of the 49ers. It's time to return to that era.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 23, 2025 at 4:24 AM ]
Apr 23, 2025 at 4:30 AM
His only mock as well from what he's hearing


graham dropping to SF at 11
Apr 23, 2025 at 5:57 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:

he's pretty tied in with everything

has SF taking Nolen…..over Graham 👀

I'd be shocked if Nolen fell out of the top 15 at this point -- he might be the fastest riser in this draft. He's quick, is a people mover and has had a great predraft process. Everyone is focused on Ole Miss quarterback Jaxson Dart, but Nolen is the Rebels' prospect I hear about more. Don't be shocked if he goes before Mason Graham, the more heralded defensive tackle.

The defensive line was once a real strength of the 49ers. It's time to return to that era.

I hate Peter Shrager quit watching NFL network because of him. Now he's on ESPN
Apr 23, 2025 at 5:59 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I think he's being honest, whilst also saying, fine we'll trade back around there. I think mine is around there now, did it before and had 16, but I'm now happier with Green now I know it's not Domestic Abuse, Harmon got one after more study, Zabel and even though he's not on my board Shedeur has a fringe first round grade for me.

How do you know it's not DV for Green?

Been reported as Sexual Assault (one in HS one in college) He's not ever been arrested or questioned, if it was DV I'm certain he would have been.
Apr 23, 2025 at 8:12 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
His only mock as well from what he's hearing

graham dropping to SF at 11

Graham on the clock at 11 makes takes all the stress out of the draft.
Apr 23, 2025 at 8:14 AM
Originally posted by krizay:
I hate Peter Shrager quit watching NFL network because of him. Now he's on ESPN

When did he move to ESPN?
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