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Jan 9, 2025 at 6:55 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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PSU #11 Carter looks really good and he's injured. Feels like i'm watching Parsons
Jan 9, 2025 at 7:28 PM
- adrianlesnar
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
PSU #11 Carter looks really good and he's injured. Feels like i'm watching Parsons
That's exactly who teams will (rightfully) draft him to be.
Jan 9, 2025 at 7:29 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:INT as DE in coverage
PSU #33 Sutton looks like a decent guy for depth.. not sure where he's projected
Jan 9, 2025 at 7:51 PM
- sick9erfan
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Jack Kiser has the look of a 49er linebacker. Hardnosed sideline to sideline speed.
Jan 9, 2025 at 8:06 PM
- DoseOfBosa
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Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
I start to get myself into draft mode, usually i try to read through big boards as i do not watch college football regularely. After that i try to get some film on those prospect.
Matt Miller has a list of what he labels as the 12 "true first round grades" he has.
Agree/Disagree?
1. Travis Hunter (WR)
2. Abdul Carter (EDGE)
3. Will Johnson (CB)
4. Kelvin Banks Jr. (OT)
5. Mason Graham (DT)
6. Malaki Starks (S)
7. Ashton Jeanty (RB)
8. Jalon Walker (EDGE)
9. Tyler Warren (TE)
10. Luther Burden III (WR)
11. Tetairoa McMillan (WR)
12. Mykel Williams (EDGE)
With Ward and Sanders as the usual QBs going Top10, this should work well for us in terms of players to pick. Would you be OK with all of them at 11?
interesting that Will Campbell isn't in his top 12
Jan 9, 2025 at 8:12 PM
- adrianlesnar
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Screw it, the Trey Lance package for Abdul Carter
Jan 9, 2025 at 8:26 PM
- LottDMontanaO
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Screw it, the Trey Lance package for Abdul Carter
Carter = want (but probably can't have)
Jan 9, 2025 at 8:31 PM
- Oilcan
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Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
I start to get myself into draft mode, usually i try to read through big boards as i do not watch college football regularely. After that i try to get some film on those prospect.
Matt Miller has a list of what he labels as the 12 "true first round grades" he has.
Agree/Disagree?
1. Travis Hunter (WR)
2. Abdul Carter (EDGE)
3. Will Johnson (CB)
4. Kelvin Banks Jr. (OT)
5. Mason Graham (DT)
6. Malaki Starks (S)
7. Ashton Jeanty (RB)
8. Jalon Walker (EDGE)
9. Tyler Warren (TE)
10. Luther Burden III (WR)
11. Tetairoa McMillan (WR)
12. Mykel Williams (EDGE)
With Ward and Sanders as the usual QBs going Top10, this should work well for us in terms of players to pick. Would you be OK with all of them at 11?
interesting that Will Campbell isn't in his top 12
I've read there is some concern on his arm length like possibly under 33", I guess we'll find out at the combine.
Jan 9, 2025 at 8:50 PM
- SunDevilNiner79
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Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
I start to get myself into draft mode, usually i try to read through big boards as i do not watch college football regularely. After that i try to get some film on those prospect.
Matt Miller has a list of what he labels as the 12 "true first round grades" he has.
Agree/Disagree?
1. Travis Hunter (WR)
2. Abdul Carter (EDGE)
3. Will Johnson (CB)
4. Kelvin Banks Jr. (OT)
5. Mason Graham (DT)
6. Malaki Starks (S)
7. Ashton Jeanty (RB)
8. Jalon Walker (EDGE)
9. Tyler Warren (TE)
10. Luther Burden III (WR)
11. Tetairoa McMillan (WR)
12. Mykel Williams (EDGE)
With Ward and Sanders as the usual QBs going Top10, this should work well for us in terms of players to pick. Would you be OK with all of them at 11?
interesting that Will Campbell isn't in his top 12
I've read there is some concern on his arm length like possibly under 33", I guess we'll find out at the combine.
Speculation he's a guard in NFL which would drop him significantly
Jan 9, 2025 at 8:57 PM
- adrianlesnar
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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
I start to get myself into draft mode, usually i try to read through big boards as i do not watch college football regularely. After that i try to get some film on those prospect.
Matt Miller has a list of what he labels as the 12 "true first round grades" he has.
Agree/Disagree?
1. Travis Hunter (WR)
2. Abdul Carter (EDGE)
3. Will Johnson (CB)
4. Kelvin Banks Jr. (OT)
5. Mason Graham (DT)
6. Malaki Starks (S)
7. Ashton Jeanty (RB)
8. Jalon Walker (EDGE)
9. Tyler Warren (TE)
10. Luther Burden III (WR)
11. Tetairoa McMillan (WR)
12. Mykel Williams (EDGE)
With Ward and Sanders as the usual QBs going Top10, this should work well for us in terms of players to pick. Would you be OK with all of them at 11?
interesting that Will Campbell isn't in his top 12
I've read there is some concern on his arm length like possibly under 33", I guess we'll find out at the combine.
Speculation he's a guard in NFL which would drop him significantly
Hed still be a blue chip guard prospect with an outside shot to stick at tackle. I think he still goes top 15
Jan 9, 2025 at 9:27 PM
- 49ers808
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
PSU #11 Carter looks really good and he's injured. Feels like i'm watching Parsons
I know there's that PSU connection but have you watched Jalon Walker? He reminds me of Parsons as well. The off ball versatility and "slight" build on the edge; yet the edge is where he's best.
Jan 9, 2025 at 9:47 PM
- Monsterniner
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Originally posted by 49ers808:Both Carter (259 lbs) and Walker (245 lbs) are 3-4 OLB's so they would be a liability as starters as 4-3 DE's and a waste of talent as off-ball linebackers.
I know there's that PSU connection but have you watched Jalon Walker? He reminds me of Parsons as well. The off ball versatility and "slight" build on the edge; yet the edge is where he's best.
Jan 9, 2025 at 10:02 PM
- 49ers808
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by 49ers808:Both Carter (259 lbs) and Walker (245 lbs) are 3-4 OLB's so they would be a liability as starters as 4-3 DE's and a waste of talent as off-ball linebackers.
I know there's that PSU connection but have you watched Jalon Walker? He reminds me of Parsons as well. The off ball versatility and "slight" build on the edge; yet the edge is where he's best.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/micah-parsons/32005041-5275-3418-9a2d-9826287ee445
same type of stuff was said about him and I'd say he's been doing okay both off ball and rushing from the edge.
Jan 9, 2025 at 10:11 PM
- 49ers808
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^^^
I see no reason why both Carter or Walker can't be used the same way
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/03/cowboys-to-classify-micah-parsons-as-de-on-fifth-year-option#:~:text=Parsons%20played%2087.8%25%20of%20his,rushers'%20tag%20or%20option%20numbers.
https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/06/26/could-micah-parsons-really-play-8-positions-our-serious-and-not-so-serious-projection/?outputType=amp
I see no reason why both Carter or Walker can't be used the same way
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/03/cowboys-to-classify-micah-parsons-as-de-on-fifth-year-option#:~:text=Parsons%20played%2087.8%25%20of%20his,rushers'%20tag%20or%20option%20numbers.
https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/06/26/could-micah-parsons-really-play-8-positions-our-serious-and-not-so-serious-projection/?outputType=amp
Jan 10, 2025 at 3:48 AM
- Cisco0623
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Of course I'll take an edge if he's there, but I would only trade up for Graham. I don't care who the edges are if the DT's are getting blown off the line it won't matter. We need to fix that position.