2025 Draft Prospect Watch List and Discussion

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
His goal right now appears to be "get in backfield and eff s**t up." Wins mostly converting speed to power...you'll see some long arms, dip and rips, or quick wins inside when lined up tighter. He needs to learn to work his hands, and to when to disengage his blocker sooner to come off and make the tackle. Has a bit of a bull in a China shop / wrecking ball play style and so you'll see him on the floor at the feet of the QB more often than you'd like. But he is too strong, too long, and too explosive to not immediately be disruptive in the pass game, and he's solid vs the run. If he maximizes his tools, watch out.

I agree that all this is potentially a good thing, but Niners need production right now if they are picking in the first round. Now, if they get a LT in the 1st and Stewart is still there in the 2nd, different story.

If we miss the playoffs I could see them being in range to draft Ersery to sit behind Trent for a year: https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/07/12/aireontae-ersery-scouting-report-nfl-draft

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
His goal right now appears to be "get in backfield and eff s**t up." Wins mostly converting speed to power...you'll see some long arms, dip and rips, or quick wins inside when lined up tighter. He needs to learn to work his hands, and to when to disengage his blocker sooner to come off and make the tackle. Has a bit of a bull in a China shop / wrecking ball play style and so you'll see him on the floor at the feet of the QB more often than you'd like. But he is too strong, too long, and too explosive to not immediately be disruptive in the pass game, and he's solid vs the run. If he maximizes his tools, watch out.

I agree that all this is potentially a good thing, but Niners need production right now if they are picking in the first round. Now, if they get a LT in the 1st and Stewart is still there in the 2nd, different story.

I feel pretty confident in saying that Shemar is more ready to contribute year 1 than any OT that we would draft in the same spot (mid to late 1st)

Originally posted by hummbabybear_1:
If we miss the playoffs I could see them being in range to draft Ersery to sit behind Trent for a year: https://thedraftnetwork.com/2024/07/12/aireontae-ersery-scouting-report-nfl-draft

Well I am sold.

Welp thought I would have more time before having to come in here

IMO without getting started at who's who, looking at needs SF has to invest into the trenches.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO without getting started at who's who, looking at needs SF has to invest into the trenches.

Needs that the Niners HAVE to fill in the next draft:
1 - DT/NT - Niners are soft up the middle against the run
1a - OT - Need a LT of the future and a RT of the present
2 - EDGE - Need someone to bookend Bosa as a pass rusher and someone who can set the edge as a run defender
3 - CB - Ward, Thomas, Ya-Sin and maybe Luter Jr will be gone next year
4 - C/OG - Need a Center to replace Brendel ASAP and also someone to replace Banks who the Niners will likely let go in FA
5 - FS - Niners need someone who can cover at safety
6- WR - Deebo has lost a step and he costs too much; need a speed WR to take the top off of defenses
7 - QB - Late round developmental QB to give Purdy some competition and the team some cover
8 - LB - Need someone to replace Dre if they can't re-sign him
9 - RB - Mitchell will be cut or traded so they need to add to the RB room.

Your thoughts..................

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO without getting started at who's who, looking at needs SF has to invest into the trenches.

Needs that the Niners HAVE to fill in the next draft:
1 - DT/NT - Niners are soft up the middle against the run
1a - OT - Need a LT of the future and a RT of the present
2 - EDGE - Need someone to bookend Bosa as a pass rusher and someone who can set the edge as a run defender
3 - CB - Ward, Thomas, Ya-Sin and maybe Luter Jr will be gone next year
4 - C/OG - Need a Center to replace Brendel ASAP and also someone to replace Banks who the Niners will likely let go in FA
5 - FS - Niners need someone who can cover at safety
6- WR - Deebo has lost a step and he costs too much; need a speed WR to take the top off of defenses
7 - QB - Late round developmental QB to give Purdy some competition and the team some cover
8 - LB - Need someone to replace Dre if they can't re-sign him
9 - RB - Mitchell will be cut or traded so they need to add to the RB room.

Your thoughts..................

So everything lol

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO without getting started at who's who, looking at needs SF has to invest into the trenches.

Needs that the Niners HAVE to fill in the next draft:
1 - DT/NT - Niners are soft up the middle against the run
1a - OT - Need a LT of the future and a RT of the present
2 - EDGE - Need someone to bookend Bosa as a pass rusher and someone who can set the edge as a run defender
3 - CB - Ward, Thomas, Ya-Sin and maybe Luter Jr will be gone next year
4 - C/OG - Need a Center to replace Brendel ASAP and also someone to replace Banks who the Niners will likely let go in FA
5 - FS - Niners need someone who can cover at safety
6- WR - Deebo has lost a step and he costs too much; need a speed WR to take the top off of defenses
7 - QB - Late round developmental QB to give Purdy some competition and the team some cover
8 - LB - Need someone to replace Dre if they can't re-sign him
9 - RB - Mitchell will be cut or traded so they need to add to the RB room.

Your thoughts..................

So everything lol

LOL, what do we think is higher priority? , a staring Tackle, Guard, Center, edge, or DT who can actually stop the run? Then from there what prospects are projected available around our pick and is one clearly above the others at any of those positions etc.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO without getting started at who's who, looking at needs SF has to invest into the trenches.

Needs that the Niners HAVE to fill in the next draft:
1 - DT/NT - Niners are soft up the middle against the run
1a - OT - Need a LT of the future and a RT of the present
2 - EDGE - Need someone to bookend Bosa as a pass rusher and someone who can set the edge as a run defender
3 - CB - Ward, Thomas, Ya-Sin and maybe Luter Jr will be gone next year
4 - C/OG - Need a Center to replace Brendel ASAP and also someone to replace Banks who the Niners will likely let go in FA
5 - FS - Niners need someone who can cover at safety
6- WR - Deebo has lost a step and he costs too much; need a speed WR to take the top off of defenses
7 - QB - Late round developmental QB to give Purdy some competition and the team some cover
8 - LB - Need someone to replace Dre if they can't re-sign him
9 - RB - Mitchell will be cut or traded so they need to add to the RB room.

Your thoughts..................

So everything lol

LOL, what do we think is higher priority? , a staring Tackle, Guard, Center, edge, or DT who can actually stop the run? Then from there what prospects are projected available around our pick and is one clearly above the others at any of those positions etc.

1 - DT/NT: Mason Graham, Michigan (hate that this is even a remote possibility), Dontay Corleone, Cincinnati. DeMonte Capehart, Clemson. Caleb Banks, Florida. Aeneas Peebles, Virginia Tech. Graham can play anywhere. Corleone and Capehart are NT types. Banks and Peebles are pass rush types.

1a - OT: Slim pickings. Will have to get lucky to draft one immediate starter, let alone 2. I like Cameron Williams, Texas. Aireontae Ersery, Minnesota (realistic 1st round pick). Marcus Mbow, Purdue. Charles Grant, William & Mary. Armand Membou, Missouri.

2 - EDGE: Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M (my leading pick for round 1). Donovan Ezeiruaku, Boston College. LT Overton, Alabama. Kyle Kennard, South Carolina. Jasheen Davis, Purdue.

3 - CB. Will be a major need. I hope we get Jahdae Barron, Texas as our 2nd round pick. I also like Will Lee III, Texas A&M.

4 - IOL. We should have taken a center last year. I agree Banks is gone, but I think his replacement is going to have to be someone already on the roster. Not sure we're finding a stud Center in the draft, but we have to at least try - Brendel is not it. I like Jake Slaughter, Florida. Jonah Monheim, USC. Logan Jones, Iowa.

If we can do first 4 rounds something like
1. Shemar Stewart, DE
2. Jahdae Barron, NCB
3. Marcus Mbow, RT
3. DeMonte Capehart, NT
4. Jake Slaughter, OC
It would go a long way toward infusing youth and talent at key positions. Of course, by the time the draft rolls around, i probably got 3 1st rounders in there.

Assuming we arent in range for obvious studs like Abdul Carter, Mason Graham or Will Johnson, I hope we get one of Shemar Stewart, Cameron Williams or Aireontae Ersery with our 1st round pick in the late teens.

For WR, I like Nick Nash SJSU as a late round flyer. I think Aiyuk, Pearsall, Cowing is a pretty fast group.

RB room is not needing anymore draft picks. CMC, Mason, Guerendo is more than fine. Bring someone in as an UDFA if necessary.

When running through the mock's the best value/need/position availability in each rounds seems to suggest drafting in about this order: edge, OT, DT, C, CB, S, LB, G, G, DT

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
When running through the mock's the best value/need/position availability in each rounds seems to suggest drafting in about this order: edge, OT, DT, C, CB, S, LB, G, G, DT

So we will be going DT, S, RB, TE, LB, LB, OT/OG, CB, DT

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO without getting started at who's who, looking at needs SF has to invest into the trenches.

Needs that the Niners HAVE to fill in the next draft:
1 - DT/NT - Niners are soft up the middle against the run
1a - OT - Need a LT of the future and a RT of the present
2 - EDGE - Need someone to bookend Bosa as a pass rusher and someone who can set the edge as a run defender
3 - CB - Ward, Thomas, Ya-Sin and maybe Luter Jr will be gone next year
4 - C/OG - Need a Center to replace Brendel ASAP and also someone to replace Banks who the Niners will likely let go in FA
5 - FS - Niners need someone who can cover at safety
6- WR - Deebo has lost a step and he costs too much; need a speed WR to take the top off of defenses
7 - QB - Late round developmental QB to give Purdy some competition and the team some cover
8 - LB - Need someone to replace Dre if they can't re-sign him
9 - RB - Mitchell will be cut or traded so they need to add to the RB room.

Your thoughts..................

Generally agree, with a few tweaks:

1. EDGE
2. OT (this is dependent on Williams)
3. DT
4. LB
5. QB (is Brock the guy?)

Whether EDGE is #1 or DT doesn't matter, the priority for this team is to get a disruptive pass rusher somewhere on the defense line. Now we expect Hargraves to be back next year but we just need to be stronger at the point of attack. I think the secondary has been doing a pretty decent job we're just not getting home at all. LB is a need because we don't know if Greenlaw is going to look like CMC does when he returns or not. Again, someone in the 2nd level who can thump a bit.

We should only look at the trenches. Do a online shuffle. Draft Ersery in the 1st. Slide McKivitz to RG. Should be better. Puni goes to LG. Draft a center in 2 or 3.
DL you see if there is value at edge or IoL.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO without getting started at who's who, looking at needs SF has to invest into the trenches.

Needs that the Niners HAVE to fill in the next draft:
1 - DT/NT - Niners are soft up the middle against the run
1a - OT - Need a LT of the future and a RT of the present
2 - EDGE - Need someone to bookend Bosa as a pass rusher and someone who can set the edge as a run defender
3 - CB - Ward, Thomas, Ya-Sin and maybe Luter Jr will be gone next year
4 - C/OG - Need a Center to replace Brendel ASAP and also someone to replace Banks who the Niners will likely let go in FA
5 - FS - Niners need someone who can cover at safety
6- WR - Deebo has lost a step and he costs too much; need a speed WR to take the top off of defenses
7 - QB - Late round developmental QB to give Purdy some competition and the team some cover
8 - LB - Need someone to replace Dre if they can't re-sign him
9 - RB - Mitchell will be cut or traded so they need to add to the RB room.

Your thoughts..................

So everything lol

They're listed in the order of priority.