The Mason Graham-DT-Michigan Dream Big Thread

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
I'm 100% on board with this pick

I would add a 3rd and trade up to do it

Turns our DL into a strength again

Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

How is the DL fine? Its Bosa, a regressed Floyd and a bunch of replacement level guys. DT is a giant gaping hole. They can't stop the run to save their lives.

They went from Buckner, Armstead and DJ Jones inside to....

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
I'm 100% on board with this pick

I would add a 3rd and trade up to do it

Turns our DL into a strength again

Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

You cant be serious. Bosa is the only guy on the DL who is a good NFL player. The Niners have to get an edge rusher to compliment Nick and a DT who can stuff the run and rush the passer. Our DL is the complete opposite of fine

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

The DL is a joke.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
I'm 100% on board with this pick

I would add a 3rd and trade up to do it

Turns our DL into a strength again

Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

You lost your mind

They don't just need one DL, they need a few. Some sort of nose tackle, space-eater that can hold up against the run and offers at least a little something as a pass rusher and then they need a true replacement for Hargrave if he gets cut. They have to do what the Rams did and rebuild their DL on the fly.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

How is the DL fine? Its Bosa, a regressed Floyd and a bunch of replacement level guys. DT is a giant gaping hole. They can't stop the run to save their lives.

They went from Buckner, Armstead and DJ Jones inside to....

To you and me lol

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

No way our defensive line is fine man. It's a horror show. Especially interior defensive line.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
I'm 100% on board with this pick

I would add a 3rd and trade up to do it

Turns our DL into a strength again

Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

You cant be serious. Bosa is the only guy on the DL who is a good NFL player. The Niners have to get an edge rusher to compliment Nick and a DT who can stuff the run and rush the passer. Our DL is the complete opposite of fine

Our DL has some pieces, but is 2 superstars and a depth piece away from being a real problem to other teams.

Bosa is bosa. Anderson is looking like a nice young piece of the puzzle. Floyd is probably better served as a situational rusher at this stage of his career, and likely won't be around much longer. Elliott is a serviceable albeit replacement level depth piece masquerading as a starter. Collins is a damn fine and really underrated player, but is also someone not likely to stick around much longer due to contract and age. Rather than move up with 11, I'd be happy to move up with 43. Shemar Stewart - Maliek Collins - Kenneth Grant - Nick Bosa with Floyd as the situational guy is an instant ten fold upgrade.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
I'm 100% on board with this pick

I would add a 3rd and trade up to do it

Turns our DL into a strength again

Might be the unpopular opinion, but I think our DL is fine. It's the damn DC that sucks

You cant be serious. Bosa is the only guy on the DL who is a good NFL player. The Niners have to get an edge rusher to compliment Nick and a DT who can stuff the run and rush the passer. Our DL is the complete opposite of fine

Our DL has some pieces, but is 2 superstars and a depth piece away from being a real problem to other teams.

Bosa is bosa. Anderson is looking like a nice young piece of the puzzle. Floyd is probably better served as a situational rusher at this stage of his career, and likely won't be around much longer. Elliott is a serviceable albeit replacement level depth piece masquerading as a starter. Collins is a damn fine and really underrated player, but is also someone not likely to stick around much longer due to contract and age. Rather than move up with 11, I'd be happy to move up with 43. Shemar Stewart - Maliek Collins - Kenneth Grant - Nick Bosa with Floyd as the situational guy is an instant ten fold upgrade.

Aside Bosa the line is nothing like what is used to be. I have never seen the middle get blown open like this year under this regime.

It was so bad I am not against the argument a run stuffing DT in round 1 is more important to the team than upgrading the o line.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Aside Bosa the line is nothing like what is used to be. I have never seen the middle get blown open like this year under this regime.

It was so bad I am not against the argument a run stuffing DT in round 1 is more important to the team than upgrading the o line.

Round 1 Walter Nolan, Derrick Harmon
Round 2 Tyliek Williams, Deone Walker, Omar Norman-Lott
Round 3 Alfred Collins, Jordan Burch

Something I have noticed is a lot of Grahams positive plays he is singled up because Grant is often double teamed. Graham is a dog for sure and has a high motor but offense's were definitely more concerned about doubling Grant and taking there chances with Graham singled. Just an observation.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Aside Bosa the line is nothing like what is used to be. I have never seen the middle get blown open like this year under this regime.

It was so bad I am not against the argument a run stuffing DT in round 1 is more important to the team than upgrading the o line.

It also hampers Warner and the other LBs because now you constantly have blockers moving into the second level as well.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
They don't just need one DL, they need a few. Some sort of nose tackle, space-eater that can hold up against the run and offers at least a little something as a pass rusher and then they need a true replacement for Hargrave if he gets cut. They have to do what the Rams did and rebuild their DL on the fly.

Yea, they need a starting 3T, a starter or rotational NT, a rotational DT, a practice squad DT, an edge setting DE and a backup DE.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Aside Bosa the line is nothing like what is used to be. I have never seen the middle get blown open like this year under this regime.

It was so bad I am not against the argument a run stuffing DT in round 1 is more important to the team than upgrading the o line.

It also hampers Warner and the other LBs because now you constantly have blockers moving into the second level as well.

100% agreed. If by some miracle Graham falls to 11 ill run the card up myself, but its not happening. I think Edge for sure. But if they can draft a mammoth in round 2 or later that can actually take on two blockers and stone wall them in the middle the defense will improve exponentially.