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Originally posted by hummbabybear_1:
At #11 there will be good options as positions of need (OT, DT, DE). More than anything else the 49ers needs better blocking and better tackling at the line.
Originally posted by BP13:get the best lineman available, regardless of position.
yes, OT, DT, DE, whoever is the greatest player at those 3 positions and is sitting at our spot we take. I'd focus on great players rather than most needed.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We need the losses for a higher draft pick and I think we will get it. Incidentally I don't think we can do much better than 11th pick overall. It comes down to a bunch of teams who are nearly hopeless. Who have 4 wins. They need to win 2 more times (extremely unlikely). Then it comes down to tiebreakers like strength of schedule, division, conference and so on. Just a basic look I don't think there are a lot of favorable strength of schedule ones for us. Plus those hopeless teams have to win 2. I think mathematically you could be looking at #'s 8, 9, 10, 11 overall pick. But realistically because those teams can't win and are such clunkers you are looking strongly at #11. Assuming we lose out. Which we are real capable of.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We need the losses for a higher draft pick and I think we will get it. Incidentally I don't think we can do much better than 11th pick overall. It comes down to a bunch of teams who are nearly hopeless. Who have 4 wins. They need to win 2 more times (extremely unlikely). Then it comes down to tiebreakers like strength of schedule, division, conference and so on. Just a basic look I don't think there are a lot of favorable strength of schedule ones for us. Plus those hopeless teams have to win 2. I think mathematically you could be looking at #'s 8, 9, 10, 11 overall pick. But realistically because those teams can't win and are such clunkers you are looking strongly at #11. Assuming we lose out. Which we are real capable of.
We had a 1st place schedule in 2024 so we probably will have the toughest SOS meaning we are the "best of the worst." Also, I doubt any other teams win 2 games from those with 4 wins.
In other words, you are right. Probably can't get better than 11.
Hopefully we don't pull out a win @ AZ. Might move us up 3-4 slots even.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We need the losses for a higher draft pick and I think we will get it. Incidentally I don't think we can do much better than 11th pick overall. It comes down to a bunch of teams who are nearly hopeless. Who have 4 wins. They need to win 2 more times (extremely unlikely). Then it comes down to tiebreakers like strength of schedule, division, conference and so on. Just a basic look I don't think there are a lot of favorable strength of schedule ones for us. Plus those hopeless teams have to win 2. I think mathematically you could be looking at #'s 8, 9, 10, 11 overall pick. But realistically because those teams can't win and are such clunkers you are looking strongly at #11. Assuming we lose out. Which we are real capable of.
We had a 1st place schedule in 2024 so we probably will have the toughest SOS meaning we are the "best of the worst." Also, I doubt any other teams win 2 games from those with 4 wins.
In other words, you are right. Probably can't get better than 11.
Hopefully we don't pull out a win @ AZ. Might move us up 3-4 slots even.
Yeah that's what I see. Strength of schedule is not in our favor. Those 4 win teams look hopeless. LOL. I've been watching them this year some on YouTube Sunday Ticket. They are just so, so bad. New Orleans has 5 wins and can't seem to pull 1 more out. The tiebreakers don't look good for us. Plus those teams are just so incredibly bad. I think mathematically at this exact moment in time something #'s 8, 9, 10, 11 is possible. But much more realistic is #11. I think that's about best. We probably lose out. But have a little chance against the Cardinals. Hopefully don't mess up and move further back in the draft at this point.
Originally posted by cwilson830:So this is like a 2021 year. Do we trade up again? Maybe not as high and for who?
We can't do any better than 10. And even that requires some unlikely help from the Saints who are underdogs in both games.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cwilson830:So this is like a 2021 year. Do we trade up again? Maybe not as high and for who?
We can't do any better than 10. And even that requires some unlikely help from the Saints who are underdogs in both games.
Mason maybe?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cwilson830:So this is like a 2021 year. Do we trade up again? Maybe not as high and for who?
We can't do any better than 10. And even that requires some unlikely help from the Saints who are underdogs in both games.
Mason maybe?
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cwilson830:So this is like a 2021 year. Do we trade up again? Maybe not as high and for who?
We can't do any better than 10. And even that requires some unlikely help from the Saints who are underdogs in both games.
Mason maybe?
If they trade three 1st round picks for some SLUG I'm going to punch somebody in the mouth. Stay put and pick the best available.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cwilson830:So this is like a 2021 year. Do we trade up again? Maybe not as high and for who?
We can't do any better than 10. And even that requires some unlikely help from the Saints who are underdogs in both games.
Mason maybe?
If they trade three 1st round picks for some SLUG I'm going to punch somebody in the mouth. Stay put and pick the best available.
There's nobody worth that in this draft imo. Mason would be if he falls a bit and we give up maybe one future 1 to get him etc
Originally posted by Cisco0623:Hard to screw this up…
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cwilson830:So this is like a 2021 year. Do we trade up again? Maybe not as high and for who?
We can't do any better than 10. And even that requires some unlikely help from the Saints who are underdogs in both games.
Mason maybe?
He's about the only one worth it imo but if we can get banks staying put thats pretty awesome as well. And if the OT go early that means a DE opposite bosa will be there. Hard to screw this up (on paper at least).
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:Hard to screw this up…
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cwilson830:So this is like a 2021 year. Do we trade up again? Maybe not as high and for who?
We can't do any better than 10. And even that requires some unlikely help from the Saints who are underdogs in both games.
Mason maybe?
He's about the only one worth it imo but if we can get banks staying put thats pretty awesome as well. And if the OT go early that means a DE opposite bosa will be there. Hard to screw this up (on paper at least).
49ers - hold my beer.