2025 Draft Class: OL

Ok Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Also could be Trent's replacement.

Trent is still here and signed for 3 more years. Why are we looking to replace him?

He's here for two seasons. That 3yr voids on 2/5.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
But he's still starting now right?

Or do we use a premium pick on a tackle just incase as a backup while we have 6 possibly 7 starting positions open on defense?

He would be a day 1 starter on the interior. He would be the starting RT in 2026. He "could" be the LT of the future all the same. Either way you're not drafting a backup player and he WILL be a OT long-term.

why are you making this more difficult to get than it is? If you just don't like him as a prospect just say that. No need to makeup narratives.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Has Membou shown he can play LG when all he has ever played is RT?

What makes you think he can't play either? That's a silly rebuttal

Because you can't just assume a guy who has only played RT in college at a high level for one year can make the change to LG.

Everyone says oh let's draft this tackle and slide him to guard but it's not that easy.

I can't remember what respected linemen said it but he was talking about switching from LT to RT and he compared it to having to learn to wipe your ass with your other hand.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He would be a day 1 starter on the interior. He would be the starting RT in 2026. He "could" be the LT of the future all the same. Either way you're not drafting a backup player and he WILL be a OT long-term.

why are you making this more difficult to get than it is? If you just don't like him as a prospect just say that. No need to makeup narratives.

Well first off I'm not taking a 6'3 OT with the 11th overall pick and I'm definitely not taking one to play LG even if it's for a year

This draft has two 1st round calibre OT's. Why reach on a position with a premium pick passing on better players at other positions?

If Membou or Campbell were in last years draft they would be the 6th or 7th OT picked.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/football-301/id1757723241?i=1000701169705

pretty good listen with Nate and his dad Mike Tice, former Vikings HC and long time OL coach in the NFL.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Well first off I'm not taking a 6'3 OT with the 11th overall pick and I'm definitely not taking one to play LG even if it's for a year

This draft has two 1st round calibre OT's. Why reach on a position with a premium pick passing on better players at other positions?

If Membou or Campbell were in last years draft they would be the 6th or 7th OT picked.

He's 6'4 1/4 at least get the numbers right.

dude we're drafting at 11, not top 5. This draft had like 2 or 3 blue chip players imo. After that it's a pick your poison guy. I don't see it as a reach at all of passing on "better" players at other positions at all.

Membou has damn good footwork, he's strong and a plus anchor. He's ideal for this scheme and ran a ton of zone. I just listen to Tice talk about him and he's been a HC/OL coach evaluating OL for WAY longer than you bud lol. He's got zero issues with playing him at RT. None

Membou after this past season would have been a 1st rd pick last yr all the same. Probably right around when Fautanu was taken (even smaller OT).

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Well first off I'm not taking a 6'3 OT with the 11th overall pick and I'm definitely not taking one to play LG even if it's for a year

This draft has two 1st round calibre OT's. Why reach on a position with a premium pick passing on better players at other positions?

If Membou or Campbell were in last years draft they would be the 6th or 7th OT picked.

He's 6'4 1/4 at least get the numbers right.

dude we're drafting at 11, not top 5. This draft had like 2 or 3 blue chip players imo. After that it's a pick your poison guy. I don't see it as a reach at all of passing on "better" players at other positions at all.

Membou has damn good footwork, he's strong and a plus anchor. He's ideal for this scheme and ran a ton of zone. I just listen to Tice talk about him and he's been a HC/OL coach evaluating OL for WAY longer than you bud lol. He's got zero issues with playing him at RT. None

Membou after this past season would have been a 1st rd pick last yr all the same. Probably right around when Fautanu was taken (even smaller OT).

NY i also have no problem taking a tackle at 11 but i have a hard time taking a player that is strapped to playing only rt. I really like banks a true lt at 11. I was sure they had to take an edge at 11 but the more i look at the tackle class the more i feel the best might be to go tackle at 11 and you can get plenty of edge and interior d in the following rounds. the main shift for me is I just can't trust Trent to be there and if you can get his replacement that can play other positions on the line you do it.

Originally posted by Izyniner:
NY i also have no problem taking a tackle at 11 but i have a hard time taking a player that is strapped to playing only rt. I really like banks a true lt at 11. I was sure they had to take an edge at 11 but the more i look at the tackle class the more i feel the best might be to go tackle at 11 and you can get plenty of edge and interior d in the following rounds. the main shift for me is I just can't trust Trent to be there and if you can get his replacement that can play other positions on the line you do it.

Why can't he play LT? What about his game precludes him from the left side? Sometimes guys play the right side because there's already an established LT OR the LT can't play on the right side.

Wirfs never played on the left side in college and he's currently playing LT. I remember there being a debate about Wirfs and if he could play on the outside

you think Philly regrets drafting Lane Jonhson or the lions regret drafting Sewell? RT is not a secondary thing in 2025, most teams have multiple edge rushers and move guys around.

Man I'm not really about Banks, not at pick 11. Great pass blocker from what I've seen. I feel like his run blocking out in space isn't good overall. But I could be wrong there

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Well first off I'm not taking a 6'3 OT with the 11th overall pick and I'm definitely not taking one to play LG even if it's for a year

This draft has two 1st round calibre OT's. Why reach on a position with a premium pick passing on better players at other positions?

If Membou or Campbell were in last years draft they would be the 6th or 7th OT picked.

He's 6'4 1/4 at least get the numbers right.

dude we're drafting at 11, not top 5. This draft had like 2 or 3 blue chip players imo. After that it's a pick your poison guy. I don't see it as a reach at all of passing on "better" players at other positions at all.

Membou has damn good footwork, he's strong and a plus anchor. He's ideal for this scheme and ran a ton of zone. I just listen to Tice talk about him and he's been a HC/OL coach evaluating OL for WAY longer than you bud lol. He's got zero issues with playing him at RT. None

Membou after this past season would have been a 1st rd pick last yr all the same. Probably right around when Fautanu was taken (even smaller OT).

So we draft Membou to replace a young, dependable guy who is getting better every year at RT and then move Membou to LT in 2 years when Trent retires and then we have to search for a RT again.

Will Membou even be that much better than McKivitz? Does Membou move the needle at all?

Why not just extend McKivitz, draft a young swing tackle and maybe that guy develops into a future starting LT and if not then use assets to get that LT when Trent retires.

This makes no sense. We aren't in a "planning for the future" stage just yet especially when the D needs at least 5 new starters. We don't need to create more holes when we already have a dependable starter at that position.

Draft a tackle when the time comes and then hopefully by then we won't have to replace half the defense and have way less needs and hopefully the draft at that time will have much better prospects.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
So we draft Membou to replace a young, dependable guy who is getting better every year at RT and then move Membou to LT in 2 years when Trent retires and then we have to search for a RT again.

Will Membou even be that much better than McKivitz? Does Membou move the needle at all?

Why not just extend McKivitz, draft a young swing tackle and maybe that guy develops into a future starting LT and if not then use assets to get that LT when Trent retires.

This makes no sense. We aren't in a "planning for the future" stage just yet especially when the D needs at least 5 new starters. We don't need to create more holes when we already have a dependable starter at that position.

Draft a tackle when the time comes and then hopefully by then we won't have to replace half the defense and have way less needs and hopefully the draft at that time will have much better prospects.

Dude just tell me why you don't like him as a prospect instead of making up reasons as to why he shouldn't be the pick because of the roster.

What about his game doesn't translate to playing OT at a high level in the NFL? He's just 21 yr old. He fits this scheme without question. He's got quick feet, a good anchor, and finishes plays.

Why pay Colton if you can replace him with a better OT who's on a rookie deal for 4 yrs? I think Colton is a serviceable RT, I don't think he's not replaceable. Membou is a starter on this OL day 1 and then moves to where he was intended to play next yr for the foreseeable future. Not sure why I have to keep repeating myself there.

every single draft pick is planning for the future. Assuming you can draft whomever when the time comes is a horrible philosophy to build a roster…go look at Philly.

also I don't think you have anything to worry about because he more than likely won't be there at 11 because he's probably the top OT in this draft and last I check that a damn important position

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude just tell me why you don't like him as a prospect instead of making up reasons as to why he shouldn't be the pick because of the roster.

What about his game doesn't translate to playing OT at a high level in the NFL? He's just 21 yr old. He fits this scheme without question. He's got quick feet, a good anchor, and finishes plays.

Why pay Colton if you can replace him with a better OT who's on a rookie deal for 4 yrs? I think Colton is a serviceable RT, I don't think he's not replaceable. Membou is a starter on this OL day 1 and then moves to where he was intended to play next yr for the foreseeable future. Not sure why I have to keep repeating myself there.

every single draft pick is planning for the future. Assuming you can draft whomever when the time comes is a horrible philosophy to build a roster…go look at Philly.

also I don't think you have anything to worry about because he more than likely won't be there at 11 because he's probably the top OT in this draft and last I check that a damn important position

It's nothing about him as a player.

Like I've said 10x, We already have starters at LT and RT and I'm not taking a guard 11th overall.

And I'm higher on McKivitz than most. I see no reason to replace him and I'm not sure Membou is that much better that it would even swing the needle.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why can't he play LT? What about his game precludes him from the left side? Sometimes guys play the right side because there's already an established LT OR the LT can't play on the right side.

Wirfs never played on the left side in college and he's currently playing LT. I remember there being a debate about Wirfs and if he could play on the outside

you think Philly regrets drafting Lane Jonhson or the lions regret drafting Sewell? RT is not a secondary thing in 2025, most teams have multiple edge rushers and move guys around.

banks imo is better inside. I think he's a poor run blocker on the outside…just finished Tice's breakdown of him and he would move him inside as well.

I'd rather draft Conerly than Banks if that was the case and we wanted a OT.

Typical hypocritical NY. So let me get this straight; you argue that Jahdae Barron playing boundary CB is all projection and that he can't do it when he literally played boundary this past season. You argue that Jalon Walker playing edge is all projection when he literally rushed from the edge. But for Membou; it isn't projection for him to LT when he played RT? Why can't he play LT you ask???

To use someone's words in here…
ITS ALL PROJECTION

Side note; I do believe that he can play LT and the transition from RT to LT gets waaaaay overblown IMO

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Typical hypocritical NY. So let me get this straight; you argue that Jahdae Barron playing boundary CB is all projection and that he can't do it when he literally played boundary this past season. You argue that Jalon Walker playing edge is all projection when he literally rushed from the edge. But for Membou; it isn't projection for him to LT when he played RT? Why can't he play LT you ask???

To use someone's words in here…
ITS ALL PROJECTION

Side note; I do believe that he can play LT and the transition from RT to LT gets waaaaay overblown IMO

I asked why can't he play LT? Why can't he play there. No one had told me why. I also don't care if they draft him to play RT. IMO that's just as important now.

I said Barron will be at his best inside and not out in the boundary role. I didn't mean to say he physically can't…I'm saying I've seen him play there and that's not where he will be at his best. He's a NCB/S DB imo. Playing him outside is not playing him at his best position.

im not alone saying that either…a s**t ton of analysis have stated the same thing.

Also, if we take an OT in round 1 does that mean Winters is the starter? Does that OT play LG or do we have to draft a LG too? What about a starting edge and two starting DT's? Are we happy with Tre Brown at CB?

All drafting a RT does when we already have a good RT is push our other needs down the board. Needs where we don't currently even have a capable starter.

And like I said I don't think a rookie RT will move the needle at all over McKivitz. RT was not a weak spot last year. T

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
It's nothing about him as a player.

Like I've said 10x, We already have starters at LT and RT and I'm not taking a guard 11th overall.

And I'm higher on McKivitz than most. I see no reason to replace him and I'm not sure Membou is that much better that it would even swing the needle.

You still have not provided any actual analysis as to why he couldn't play LT? We have a RT for one more yr. Trent for two, tops.

I think Colton is serviceable, he's absolutely replaceable and can be moved off in a yr…. Colton last yr allowed pressure on 6.0% of his snaps in pass protection at right tackle, ranked 21st out of 34 qualified players at the position. Like I said he's serviceable, he shouldn't be a long-term guy that's gonna cost us more than people think.

What about Membou's game leads you to believe he's not gonna be any better than Colton?

look I don't think he's gonna be the pick because he's not gonna be there. If he is there better take a hard look and invest in the OL to protect their highly paid QB.