2025 Draft Class: OL

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Also, if we take an OT in round 1 does that mean Winters is the starter? Does that OT play LG or do we have to draft a LG too? What about a starting edge and two starting DT's? Are we happy with Tre Brown at CB?

All drafting a RT does when we already have a good RT is push our other needs down the board. Needs where we don't currently even have a capable starter.

And like I said I don't think a rookie RT will move the needle at all over McKivitz. RT was not a weak spot last year. T

lol wut? It means we took the best player available that starts day 1 on the OL. Period.

They have 10 other picks to go get DL, LBer and whatever else. You're not filling every position in one draft. Take a good player at an important position with long term value.

And we didn't cut Floyd, Hargrave and Collins leaving us with 3 glaring holes on the Dline to draft a RT.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
And we didn't cut Floyd, Hargrave and Collins leaving us with 3 glaring holes on the Dline to draft a RT.

And this is one of the deepest drafts at DL in a very long time.

So let's go get Kinlaw and pass on Wirfs because you think we're forced into picking DL again?

the draft is never just about filling now needs…And again he would start and play 1,000 snaps here day 1. Then at worst be our long term RT

They can absolutely fill their DL needs and still land a very good OT in the 1st

agree to disagree

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And this is one of the deepest drafts at DL in a very long time.

So let's go get Kinlaw and pass on Wirfs because you think we're forced into picking DL again?

the draft is never just about filling now needs…And again he would start and play 1,000 snaps here day 1. Then at worst be our long term RT

They can absolutely fill their DL needs and still land a very good OT in the 1st

agree to disagree

Well there was alot of talk about how Kinlaw was the absolute perfect DT for the wide 9 D. He just couldn't stay healthy.

And at the time yes, Wirfs should have been the pick because we didn't have a steady RT like we do this year.

And there's no guaranteeing that if we do take Membou he isn't the bust and the DT we pass on goes on to be a Pro Bowler

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I asked why can't he play LT? Why can't he play there. No one had told me why. I also don't care if they draft him to play RT. IMO that's just as important now.

I said Barron will be at his best inside and not out in the boundary role. I didn't mean to say he physically can't…I'm saying I've seen him play there and that's not where he will be at his best. He's a NCB/S DB imo. Playing him outside is not playing him at his best position.

im not alone saying that either…a s**t ton of analysis have stated the same thing.

We don't know if he can because he has never played LT. Some guys can make the flip. Others can't.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You still have not provided any actual analysis as to why he couldn't play LT? We have a RT for one more yr. Trent for two, tops.

I think Colton is serviceable, he's absolutely replaceable and can be moved off in a yr…. Colton last yr allowed pressure on 6.0% of his snaps in pass protection at right tackle, ranked 21st out of 34 qualified players at the position. Like I said he's serviceable, he shouldn't be a long-term guy that's gonna cost us more than people think.

What about Membou's game leads you to believe he's not gonna be any better than Colton?

look I don't think he's gonna be the pick because he's not gonna be there. If he is there better take a hard look and invest in the OL to protect their highly paid QB.

You explain to me how HE CAN play a position he has never played.

Like I said it's not necessarily Membou. Very few OT's can come in and make an impact as rookies.

Can you guarantee he won't surrender pressures on 6% of his snaps? What if he allows pressures on 5% but isn't as good of a run blocker as McKivitz.

Does that move the needle enough to warrant replacing a serviceable starter with a premium pick?

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Well there was alot of talk about how Kinlaw was the absolute perfect DT for the wide 9 D. He just couldn't stay healthy.

And at the time yes, Wirfs should have been the pick because we didn't have a steady RT like we do this year.

And there's no guaranteeing that if we do take Membou he isn't the bust and the DT we pass on goes on to be a Pro Bowler

We had McG who is better than Colton is lol.

there's no guarantee that we're all gonna be alive tomorrow. So saying something like that is pretty silly imo.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
We don't know if he can because he has never played LT. Some guys can make the flip. Others can't.

What from his film shows you he can't play on the left side? Explain.

also if he's just our long-term RT, that's NOT a bad thing. Colton is not irreplaceable and will be due a contract in a yr. You act like he's some top 10 RT when he's clearly not.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
You explain to me how HE CAN play a position he has never played.

Like I said it's not necessarily Membou. Very few OT's can come in and make an impact as rookies.

Can you guarantee he won't surrender pressures on 6% of his snaps? What if he allows pressures on 5% but isn't as good of a run blocker as McKivitz.

Does that move the needle enough to warrant replacing a serviceable starter with a premium pick?

Nothing from his film shows he's incapable of playing LT. he's got the foot speed. He's got enough length. He's got a good anchor. His pass-blocking efficiency is T-2 overall in this class. He's one of the best zone blocking OT in this class.

thorn who's opinion matters to me regarding lineman has him as his top OT in this draft. Now if Simmons didn't blowup his knee, I would want him….he also wouldn't be there at 11

can you guarantee that Colton improves or actually doesn't get worse? I'm not about overpaying for avg OTs and that's exactly what will happen if they have to re-sign him. Go look at the market, he will not be playing at that $5M mark anymore. It will at the very least be doubled because OTs are expensive. They're impactful and they go high in draft for a reason.

look you clearly have a draft "plan" and taking someone like membou early f**ks it up your "vision" and that's why you're against it. You have given me nothing in the form of analysis to why he can't be the pick…outside of he hasn't had to LT lol.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Nothing from his film shows he's incapable of playing LT. he's got the foot speed. He's got enough length. He's got a good anchor. His pass-blocking efficiency is T-2 overall in this class. He's one of the best zone blocking OT in this class.

thorn who's opinion matters to me regarding lineman has him as his top OT in this draft. Now if Simmons didn't blowup his knee, I would want him….he also wouldn't be there at 11

can you guarantee that Colton improves or actually doesn't get worse? I'm not about overpaying for avg OTs and that's exactly what will happen if they have to re-sign him. Go look at the market, he will not be playing at that $5M mark anymore. It will at the very least be doubled because OTs are expensive. They're impactful and they go high in draft for a reason.

look you clearly have a draft "plan" and taking someone like membou early f**ks it up your "vision" and that's why you're against it. You have given me nothing in the form of analysis to why he can't be the pick…outside of he hasn't had to LT lol.

He probably can. I never said he couldn't but he has never played LT so you can't telll me he can make the switch.

And it doesn't really matter because the odds are we aren't taking a tackle at 11

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
He probably can. I never said he couldn't but he has never played LT so you can't telll me he can make the switch.

And it doesn't really matter because the odds are we aren't taking a tackle at 11

He doesn't have to be the future LT for him to be a good pick at 11 anyway. I see nothing to say he can't play over there.

it doesn't matter because the top OT in the draft isn't dropping to 11, imo there shouldn't be some massive debate about taking a guy like that (unless you simply don't think he's good) because that's without a very impactful position and will be a need.

Another later RD guy to check out is MSU IOL Luke Newman. Looked good at the shrine game. Worked out at center. Pretty athletic.

It seems lie a lot of people feel anyone the 49ers take at #11 is a reach. The consensus is that there aren't ny great players after the first 56 picks. I don't know how true that is but that's what I keep hearing and reading. No mattewr who they take at #11 there will be a lot of people that say it was the wrong pick. I've said before that I don't care what position the pick is if he fills a need and becomes a solid starter.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It seems lie a lot of people feel anyone the 49ers take at #11 is a reach. The consensus is that there aren't ny great players after the first 56 picks. I don't know how true that is but that's what I keep hearing and reading. No mattewr who they take at #11 there will be a lot of people that say it was the wrong pick. I've said before that I don't care what position the pick is if he fills a need and becomes a solid starter.

IMO this draft lacks blue chip talent. I'd say the only real guy that fits that mold is Hunter. All the other prospects have their warts.

this is a great yr to have a ton of picks because there's good solid prospects though out this draft at certain positions. Not a great yr to have a top 10 pick or need a QB/high end playmaker on offense.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It seems lie a lot of people feel anyone the 49ers take at #11 is a reach. The consensus is that there aren't ny great players after the first 56 picks. I don't know how true that is but that's what I keep hearing and reading. No mattewr who they take at #11 there will be a lot of people that say it was the wrong pick. I've said before that I don't care what position the pick is if he fills a need and becomes a solid starter.

IMO this draft lacks blue chip talent. I'd say the only real guy that fits that mold is Hunter. All the other prospects have their warts.

this is a great yr to have a ton of picks because there's good solid prospects though out this draft at certain positions. Not a great yr to have a top 10 pick or need a QB/high end playmaker on offense.

Many of those so called blue chip guys never become great. On the other hand we see a lot of 3-5 round picks become pro bowl players. Fansd and scouts often become enamored with certain players and blow them up to be greater than they are. Often it's because they play for a big time program and get more coverage. I don't care whre a player is drafted as long as he can play.