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2025 Draft Class: OL
Feb 1, 2025 at 10:44 AM
- okdkid
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OL1 - OL8 are basically the same dude. Can't justify taking one top 15 with so many other instant starters available
Feb 1, 2025 at 11:59 AM
- Ezekiel38
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No OL in the 1st round at #11 unless we trade back to #17-20 and nab Simmons/Membou there. Otherwise the value is not there at #11 with guys like Starks and Warren likely on the board and other DL/EDGE players.
With Saleh coming back we need to go defense heavy and often in the early part of the draft.
With Saleh coming back we need to go defense heavy and often in the early part of the draft.
Feb 1, 2025 at 3:38 PM
- Sask49erFan
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Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:Between Graham and Johnson, who is the more elite talent? I'd be thrilled with either but i know we have a bigger hole in the D Line. But dam, adding Johnson to Lenoir and Green seems so dam tempting. Our DBs would be a real strength!
Originally posted by genus49:In a perfect world Graham falls to 11 but Johnson is way too good to pass on otherwise.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Kolohe:Johnson is one of the guys they should sprint the pick to the podium if available.
People that get paid to do Mock Drafts like Daniel Jeremiah really don't do their research. I don't see in any way how the 49ers select an Offensive Tackle at #11 and I don't see it in a trade down either. 49ers defense was atrocious last season, sure it had a lot to do with Nick Sorensen but the D-line is a mess. Not to mention Talanoa Hufanga and Charvarius Ward are set to become free agents. BPA+Need = Defense all day in the 1st round for the 49ers. Bucky Brooks had the 49ers selecting Will Johnson CB Michigan, now I could get behind that!!!!
Yeah I want us to address the trenches in a big way but if Johnson is there I'd love the pick. Good depth where we can get legit players on OL/DL in round 2 and beyond.
Getting a secondary with Johnson/Green/Lenoir can not only lead to more coverage sacks but allow Saleh to get more aggressive knowing the corners can lock things down.
No DB can cover forever.
Fix the pass rush and that makes even average corners look better
Feb 1, 2025 at 4:37 PM
- 49ers808
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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:Between Graham and Johnson, who is the more elite talent? I'd be thrilled with either but i know we have a bigger hole in the D Line. But dam, adding Johnson to Lenoir and Green seems so dam tempting. Our DBs would be a real strength!
Originally posted by genus49:In a perfect world Graham falls to 11 but Johnson is way too good to pass on otherwise.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Kolohe:Johnson is one of the guys they should sprint the pick to the podium if available.
People that get paid to do Mock Drafts like Daniel Jeremiah really don't do their research. I don't see in any way how the 49ers select an Offensive Tackle at #11 and I don't see it in a trade down either. 49ers defense was atrocious last season, sure it had a lot to do with Nick Sorensen but the D-line is a mess. Not to mention Talanoa Hufanga and Charvarius Ward are set to become free agents. BPA+Need = Defense all day in the 1st round for the 49ers. Bucky Brooks had the 49ers selecting Will Johnson CB Michigan, now I could get behind that!!!!
Yeah I want us to address the trenches in a big way but if Johnson is there I'd love the pick. Good depth where we can get legit players on OL/DL in round 2 and beyond.
Getting a secondary with Johnson/Green/Lenoir can not only lead to more coverage sacks but allow Saleh to get more aggressive knowing the corners can lock things down.
No DB can cover forever.
Fix the pass rush and that makes even average corners look better
That said; it works both ways, a solid secondary makes the DL look better with coverage sacks.
If Graham is there; I think that's the pick over anybody
Feb 2, 2025 at 8:42 AM
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The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Feb 2, 2025 at 8:43 AM ]
Feb 2, 2025 at 10:07 AM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Puni stepped right in and made an immediate impact. If Campbell is available at 11 i wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He could start at LG and then move over to LT when Trent retires.
The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
Feb 2, 2025 at 10:24 AM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Puni stepped right in and made an immediate impact. If Campbell is available at 11 i wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He could start at LG and then move over to LT when Trent retires.
The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
Yes he did but that's not normal. It's harder for centers who usually call out the signals to the line and for tackles. The point is the talent is better on the D line and they need help in both areas. Go for the highest rated guy at #11. Some are even saying they could pick a TE if Warren is available at 11. Not a terrible idea. Kittle is 31 and has never year left on hs contract.
They just need to get someone that's going to play and hopefully help this year. No injured guys that need a year to recover. No workout warriors that don't show up in game film.
Feb 2, 2025 at 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Warren at 11 is absolutely a terrible idea.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Puni stepped right in and made an immediate impact. If Campbell is available at 11 i wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He could start at LG and then move over to LT when Trent retires.
The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
Yes he did but that's not normal. It's harder for centers who usually call out the signals to the line and for tackles. The point is the talent is better on the D line and they need help in both areas. Go for the highest rated guy at #11. Some are even saying they could pick a TE if Warren is available at 11. Not a terrible idea. Kittle is 31 and has never year left on hs contract.
They just need to get someone that's going to play and hopefully help this year. No injured guys that need a year to recover. No workout warriors that don't show up in game film.
Feb 2, 2025 at 12:34 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Drafting Warren at 11 over a lineman is just a terrible idea. Some say he isnt even the top TE. If they draft a guy like Campbell he will be an instant starter at LG or perhaps RT. Do that and get a C in free agency and the line is fixed.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Puni stepped right in and made an immediate impact. If Campbell is available at 11 i wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He could start at LG and then move over to LT when Trent retires.
The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
Yes he did but that's not normal. It's harder for centers who usually call out the signals to the line and for tackles. The point is the talent is better on the D line and they need help in both areas. Go for the highest rated guy at #11. Some are even saying they could pick a TE if Warren is available at 11. Not a terrible idea. Kittle is 31 and has never year left on hs contract.
They just need to get someone that's going to play and hopefully help this year. No injured guys that need a year to recover. No workout warriors that don't show up in game film.
Feb 2, 2025 at 1:00 PM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Warren at 11 is absolutely a terrible idea.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Puni stepped right in and made an immediate impact. If Campbell is available at 11 i wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He could start at LG and then move over to LT when Trent retires.
The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
Yes he did but that's not normal. It's harder for centers who usually call out the signals to the line and for tackles. The point is the talent is better on the D line and they need help in both areas. Go for the highest rated guy at #11. Some are even saying they could pick a TE if Warren is available at 11. Not a terrible idea. Kittle is 31 and has never year left on hs contract.
They just need to get someone that's going to play and hopefully help this year. No injured guys that need a year to recover. No workout warriors that don't show up in game film.
I wouldn't do it but it's a possibility. As always it depends on whois there when they pick. I'm okay with D or Oline but it better be someone tha tis ready to play. I read the mock at the top of the page. It has them going for a raw LB from Alabama in round 2. Please no more raw athletes. Draft football players who have demonstrated they kniw how to play.
Feb 2, 2025 at 3:00 PM
- Ezekiel38
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Drafting Warren at 11 over a lineman is just a terrible idea. Some say he isnt even the top TE. If they draft a guy like Campbell he will be an instant starter at LG or perhaps RT. Do that and get a C in free agency and the line is fixed.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Puni stepped right in and made an immediate impact. If Campbell is available at 11 i wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He could start at LG and then move over to LT when Trent retires.
The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
Yes he did but that's not normal. It's harder for centers who usually call out the signals to the line and for tackles. The point is the talent is better on the D line and they need help in both areas. Go for the highest rated guy at #11. Some are even saying they could pick a TE if Warren is available at 11. Not a terrible idea. Kittle is 31 and has never year left on hs contract.
They just need to get someone that's going to play and hopefully help this year. No injured guys that need a year to recover. No workout warriors that don't show up in game film.
You want OL?
Then don't reach at #11 trade back in the 1st 4-10 spots and grab an extra 2nd/3rd rounder which we can use on DL/EDGE along with our other 2nd and 3rd rounder.
Getting Simmons at #18 and now having two 2nd rounders to grab Derrick Harmon DL and Darius Alexander DL and then EDGE at #75 is much more preferable than reaching for OL at #11 just because you are fixated on fixing the OL. Take the best player available at our spot. If that's Malachi Starks take him. If it's Warren take him. If it's an OL take him. Just take the best talent possible. If you don't that's how you get Mike McGlinchey and miss out on Fitzpatrick. Bet you loved that McGlinchey pick lol
Feb 2, 2025 at 3:35 PM
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
You want OL?
Then don't reach at #11 trade back in the 1st 4-10 spots and grab an extra 2nd/3rd rounder which we can use on DL/EDGE along with our other 2nd and 3rd rounder.
Getting Simmons at #18 and now having two 2nd rounders to grab Derrick Harmon DL and Darius Alexander DL and then EDGE at #75 is much more preferable than reaching for OL at #11 just because you are fixated on fixing the OL. Take the best player available at our spot. If that's Malachi Starks take him. If it's Warren take him. If it's an OL take him. Just take the best talent possible. If you don't that's how you get Mike McGlinchey and miss out on Fitzpatrick. Bet you loved that McGlinchey pick lol
I didn't realize Simmons had a torn Patellar Tendon. That s**t is brutal. That's what basically forced Richburg to retire (and a lot of other NFL players have never really been the same after that injury). I would be super hesitant to take him in rd 1
Feb 2, 2025 at 4:43 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:I'm okay trading back but it certainly won't be for a guy like Simmons at 18 given his injury history. Screw that. Give me Banks if he falls that far or an edge rusher like Green.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Drafting Warren at 11 over a lineman is just a terrible idea. Some say he isnt even the top TE. If they draft a guy like Campbell he will be an instant starter at LG or perhaps RT. Do that and get a C in free agency and the line is fixed.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Puni stepped right in and made an immediate impact. If Campbell is available at 11 i wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He could start at LG and then move over to LT when Trent retires.
The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
Yes he did but that's not normal. It's harder for centers who usually call out the signals to the line and for tackles. The point is the talent is better on the D line and they need help in both areas. Go for the highest rated guy at #11. Some are even saying they could pick a TE if Warren is available at 11. Not a terrible idea. Kittle is 31 and has never year left on hs contract.
They just need to get someone that's going to play and hopefully help this year. No injured guys that need a year to recover. No workout warriors that don't show up in game film.
You want OL?
Then don't reach at #11 trade back in the 1st 4-10 spots and grab an extra 2nd/3rd rounder which we can use on DL/EDGE along with our other 2nd and 3rd rounder.
Getting Simmons at #18 and now having two 2nd rounders to grab Derrick Harmon DL and Darius Alexander DL and then EDGE at #75 is much more preferable than reaching for OL at #11 just because you are fixated on fixing the OL. Take the best player available at our spot. If that's Malachi Starks take him. If it's Warren take him. If it's an OL take him. Just take the best talent possible. If you don't that's how you get Mike McGlinchey and miss out on Fitzpatrick. Bet you loved that McGlinchey pick lol
One thing I'm not doing..... is drafting a guy coming off a serious injury in rd 1, drafting a TE in rd 1, or drafting a rb or wr in the first 3 rds.
Feb 2, 2025 at 5:18 PM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:I'm okay trading back but it certainly won't be for a guy like Simmons at 18 given his injury history. Screw that. Give me Banks if he falls that far or an edge rusher like Green.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Drafting Warren at 11 over a lineman is just a terrible idea. Some say he isnt even the top TE. If they draft a guy like Campbell he will be an instant starter at LG or perhaps RT. Do that and get a C in free agency and the line is fixed.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:Puni stepped right in and made an immediate impact. If Campbell is available at 11 i wouldn't hesitate to draft him. He could start at LG and then move over to LT when Trent retires.
The general feeling is D linemen can start and have an impact quicker than O linemen. There aren't many really great O linemen in this draft that will step in and have an immediate impact so the Niners would be better off using that first pick on defense. They need both positions but I don't want to see them waste the pick on a project.
Yes he did but that's not normal. It's harder for centers who usually call out the signals to the line and for tackles. The point is the talent is better on the D line and they need help in both areas. Go for the highest rated guy at #11. Some are even saying they could pick a TE if Warren is available at 11. Not a terrible idea. Kittle is 31 and has never year left on hs contract.
They just need to get someone that's going to play and hopefully help this year. No injured guys that need a year to recover. No workout warriors that don't show up in game film.
You want OL?
Then don't reach at #11 trade back in the 1st 4-10 spots and grab an extra 2nd/3rd rounder which we can use on DL/EDGE along with our other 2nd and 3rd rounder.
Getting Simmons at #18 and now having two 2nd rounders to grab Derrick Harmon DL and Darius Alexander DL and then EDGE at #75 is much more preferable than reaching for OL at #11 just because you are fixated on fixing the OL. Take the best player available at our spot. If that's Malachi Starks take him. If it's Warren take him. If it's an OL take him. Just take the best talent possible. If you don't that's how you get Mike McGlinchey and miss out on Fitzpatrick. Bet you loved that McGlinchey pick lol
One thing I'm not doing..... is drafting a guy coming off a serious injury in rd 1, drafting a TE in rd 1, or drafting a rb or wr in the first 3 rds.
Warren's name has been mentioned since Kittle is 31 and going into his final year of his contract. I also read that he is capable of playing H back or even in the fullback slot. That would make Juice expendable.
I wouldn't take him over a good O linemen or D linemen. I doubt the 49ers will unless some type of trade is involved that nets therm abn extra 1st rounder. ven then it's not likely but we've see some stranger things happen.
Feb 2, 2025 at 5:28 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
You want OL?
Then don't reach at #11 trade back in the 1st 4-10 spots and grab an extra 2nd/3rd rounder which we can use on DL/EDGE along with our other 2nd and 3rd rounder.
Getting Simmons at #18 and now having two 2nd rounders to grab Derrick Harmon DL and Darius Alexander DL and then EDGE at #75 is much more preferable than reaching for OL at #11 just because you are fixated on fixing the OL. Take the best player available at our spot. If that's Malachi Starks take him. If it's Warren take him. If it's an OL take him. Just take the best talent possible. If you don't that's how you get Mike McGlinchey and miss out on Fitzpatrick. Bet you loved that McGlinchey pick lol
I didn't realize Simmons had a torn Patellar Tendon. That s**t is brutal. That's what basically forced Richburg to retire (and a lot of other NFL players have never really been the same after that injury). I would be super hesitant to take him in rd 1
Wouldn't shock me if Simmons dropped cuz of that injury and given our history I'd let him keep dropping by our pick(s).
Possible another team takes the risk and he's a great player for them for 10+ seasons. If we take him, he'll be injury plagued bust that shows just enough flashes to sign a lower level deal with another team once we let him go.