Kenneth Grant-DT-Michigan

Originally posted by Izyniner:
When you watch the Graham tape Grant is the one fighting through double teams. And still making plays

Going back and watching it your half correct, wasn't always making plays more stone walled when double. A lot of Grahams highlights Grant was getting double. You can say vice versa watching grant a lot of his highlight they were running stunts with Graham. Grant does have some good block shedding against the run but man Graham has it all bull rush, swim, bend, acceleration, even saw him do a solid spin move.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Izyniner:
When you watch the Graham tape Grant is the one fighting through double teams. And still making plays

Going back and watching it your half correct, wasn't always making plays more stone walled when double. A lot of Grahams highlights Grant was getting double. You can say vice versa watching grant a lot of his highlight they were running stunts with Graham. Grant does have some good block shedding against the run but man Graham has it all bull rush, swim, bend, acceleration, even saw him do a solid spin move.

Yeah Graham is a solid player. But they both benefited from playing with each other. I think They both will be successful at the next level.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Izyniner:
When you watch the Graham tape Grant is the one fighting through double teams. And still making plays

Going back and watching it your half correct, wasn't always making plays more stone walled when double. A lot of Grahams highlights Grant was getting double. You can say vice versa watching grant a lot of his highlight they were running stunts with Graham. Grant does have some good block shedding against the run but man Graham has it all bull rush, swim, bend, acceleration, even saw him do a solid spin move.

Yeah Graham is a solid player. But they both benefited from playing with each other. I think They both will be successful at the next level.

Graham looks like he'll be a pro bowler, Grant looks like he'll be solid with the potential of becoming one. I wouldn't take him at 11 even though it seems like such a Lynch move, wouldn't be mad but disappointed for sure. The with how deep this class is at S and DT it might be best to draft a OT for the future even though it's not our biggest hole. For me I'm hoping some how we pull off Graham or Marks

I think we're only saying he's a reach because of how NT's are viewed. I think they're much more valuable in this era of two deep safeties and light boxes. The ones that can move to the extent you can play them on 3rd down are just as valuable (probably more so) than a 3 tech.

I love Graham's wrestling background and technique to the point where if they were both there I'd go Graham, but Grant is still worth it to me, and looks like there's room for improvement with coaching as well.

I've read that he was inconsistent, but showed out against Ohio State, and that's the only full game I've watched, so will go and do some more digging but I think he's well worth it at #11.

I still think 11 is too early for him but I have a feeling he's definitely in play for us. The team
is making a BIG push to improve the run D and this dude would go a long way to helping with that inside.

I sure hope we'd move down if he's the guy we're targeting tho but I'll mentally prepare myself for us to reach for a guy we fall for, even if it's Grant.

I would get both Deone Walker (Kentucky) and Kenneth Grant (Michigan) in the later rounds of this draft. Gotta build and beef up our D!...

Originally posted by SF493R5:
I would get both Deone Walker (Kentucky) and Kenneth Grant (Michigan) in the later rounds of this draft. Gotta build and beef up our D!...

Why stop there? I'll take Abdul Carter in the 5th round and Will Johnson in the 6th.

I think Grant is gonna slip, because there's so many NTs in this draft - that teams will wait

wouldn't be surprised if he went Rd1, but wouldn't take him until Rd2

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by SF493R5:
I would get both Deone Walker (Kentucky) and Kenneth Grant (Michigan) in the later rounds of this draft. Gotta build and beef up our D!...

Why stop there? I'll take Abdul Carter in the 5th round and Will Johnson in the 6th.

Rather grab Barron with the second 5th rounder. I think he's a little more versatile than Johnson.

May be able to get Johnson as an UDFA.

Watching the Texas game from early in the year. They've got a very good O-Line and Graham fared much better, Grant had some flashes but mostly shut out. Most of the gameplan was the quick game to keep them off balance, but I've cooled a little on Grant. Will do another game as that Ohio St game was immense.

Woo, after trying to finesse his way through most of the game he brought a bull rush in garbage time, that was big time. So impressive when he gets low and uncorks it. Will take a 3rd game in and say what I see.

Put on the Oregon game, heard a bit about Derrick Harmon, and wow, first play dominance! Does he need a thread?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by SF493R5:
I would get both Deone Walker (Kentucky) and Kenneth Grant (Michigan) in the later rounds of this draft. Gotta build and beef up our D!...

Why stop there? I'll take Abdul Carter in the 5th round and Will Johnson in the 6th.

Rather grab Barron with the second 5th rounder. I think he's a little more versatile than Johnson.

May be able to get Johnson as an UDFA.

You guys are mean. lol

Grant imo is slow of the LOS and really isn't it as far an interior pass rusher goes. There's definitely something to work with, but in no way am I taking him in the top 20.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Grant imo is slow of the LOS and really isn't it as far an interior pass rusher goes. There's definitely something to work with, but in no way am I taking him in the top 20.

The thing is that he's explosive, so I wonder if it's just because he's popping up to look where the play is going. If it's on him that's not great, but if he's coached to do it then it's fine. It does sometimes seem that his role is to occupy blockers and free up Graham, but that could just be Graham being better than him.