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With the 11th overall pick..

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
No, No, No. Everything coming out on Stewart sounds exactly like Trey. Not much production but high ceiling. NO more of that. I want someone who was productive against top competition, guys like Graham, Cambell etc.

This is such a dumb comparison. Also no one is saying take him over Graham, even though his production (numbers) isn't exactly great either.

How is it a dumb comparison. High ceiling, not much production, raw talent. Isn't that how they described Trey? That's the same being said about Stewart.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
First time I'm learning Stewart lined up all over the place. Every thing I've read about him, they don't mention that.

Massive sack production big deal my guy. Why do you keep bringing this up, I'm talking about the top passer rushers in the NFL, all had production in college. Regardless if it was 6 a year or 10 a year.

I mean just tell me you didn't watch the baldy clip. Literally shows him lineup up over the center

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Yes so you clearly don't think Graham is good because he most definitely doesn't have "massive sack" production over his 3 yrs as a starter. Why are you not applying the same thing to him?

You keep saying ALL yet I've already proven that is simply not true.

Did you just use a Senior Bowl clip to prove your point.

Oh yah I don't think Mason Graham is good okay. Bro calm take a deep breath please.

Projecting that he isn't calm is pretty corny .
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
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I mean just tell me you didn't watch the baldy clip. Literally shows him lineup up over the center


Yes so you clearly don't think Graham is good because he most definitely doesn't have "massive sack" production over his 3 yrs as a starter. Why are you not applying the same thing to him?

You keep saying ALL yet I've already proven that is simply not true.

Did you just use a Senior Bowl clip to prove your point.

Oh yah I don't think Mason Graham is good okay. Bro calm take a deep breath please.

Projecting that he isn't calm is pretty corny .

I guess we're all corny people do the same s**t to me all the time.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Did you just use a Senior Bowl clip to prove your point.

Oh yah I don't think Mason Graham is good okay. Bro calm take a deep breath please.

WTF are you watching? You're either trolling right now, or you still didn't watch what I just posted. Those are game reps.

why does Mason and his lack of production not matter too you? I mean that's seems to be how you're evaluating other players?
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[ Edited by Kolohe on Mar 17, 2025 at 1:11 PM ]
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
How is it a dumb comparison. High ceiling, not much production, raw talent. Isn't that how they described Trey? That's the same being said about Stewart.

Why don't you at least use a player that plays the same position? Lance played one yr of college football.

explain to me what's raw about SS's game?
Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Did you just use a Senior Bowl clip to prove your point.

Oh yah I don't think Mason Graham is good okay. Bro calm take a deep breath please.

Projecting that he isn't calm is pretty corny .

I guess we're all corny people do the same s**t to me all the time.

I understand your plight
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Projecting that he isn't calm is pretty corny .

Yeah I mean I'm completely calm lol…I'm not some massive SS guy, I just find it silly to judge a player completely off stats…and if you're gonna do that for one player, you'd better do it for all the players.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Did you just use a Senior Bowl clip to prove your point.

Oh yah I don't think Mason Graham is good okay. Bro calm take a deep breath please.

WTF are you watching? You're either trolling right now, or you still didn't watch what I just posted. Those are game reps.

why does Mason and his lack of production not matter too you? I mean that's seems to be how you're evaluating other players?

So you're saying that he has lined up there constantly that ots the reason for his low sack totals? 300 passing snaps in three seasons, 4.5 sacks?

We will see if it transfers to the NFL. But again these are my opinions on why I wouldn't take him at 11. Just like it was adrians opinion on why he wouldn't want Pearce at 11.

Love the energy though I gotta get back to work.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Projecting that he isn't calm is pretty corny .

Yeah I mean I'm completely calm lol…I'm not some massive SS guy, I just find it silly to judge a player completely off stats…and if you're gonna do that for one player, you'd better do it for all the players.

But you're judging him a pure athleticism. Didn't we pretty much do that with Trey Lance?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
How is it a dumb comparison. High ceiling, not much production, raw talent. Isn't that how they described Trey? That's the same being said about Stewart.

Why don't you at least use a player that plays the same position? Lance played one yr of college football.

explain to me what's raw about SS's game?

First off he was 2024 all SEC third team, 4.5 sacks in a 3 year college career from a DE is not great but he had a hell of a combine. Speed, vertical, etc were all great. To me, that's raw talent and the problem is the raw talent can be something to build and be great or can also be a complete flop.
Originally posted by jersey49er:
The San Francisco 49ers pick ????

as of now if I go BPA its CB Will Johnson out of Michigan ( best DB in drafts since Stingley )

as of need I got DE/LB Jalon Walker out of Georgia
( I think he's going to be the best edge rusher in this draft and just like Micah will become a full time one over the season )

who do you think we rake at 11 ?

A replacement for Jake Moodey, like the kid out of Maimi (Andres Borregales) or I would be down with the fan favorite Ben Sauls either one
Originally posted by Kolohe:
So you're saying that he has lined up there constantly that ots the reason for his low sack totals? 300 passing snaps in three seasons, 4.5 sacks?

We will see if it transfers to the NFL. But again these are my opinions on why I wouldn't take him at 11. Just like it was adrians opinion on why he wouldn't want Pearce at 11.

Love the energy though I gotta get back to work.

I'm saying he's lined up and down that DL. I'm not saying what that means for his sack totals.

I would assume they would use him a lot like we used Omenihu.

totally get you're opinion. If we're gonna use stats to determine if a player is good or not, gotta do it with every guy.
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
First off he was 2024 all SEC third team, 4.5 sacks in a 3 year college career from a DE is not great but he had a hell of a combine. Speed, vertical, etc were all great. To me, that's raw talent and the problem is the raw talent can be something to build and be great or can also be a complete flop.

And good stats in college don't always translate to the pros. If we want to stick with the QB theme. Mac Jones and dozens of other QBs come to mind.

you still didn't tell me what was raw about his game.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
So you're saying that he has lined up there constantly that ots the reason for his low sack totals? 300 passing snaps in three seasons, 4.5 sacks?

We will see if it transfers to the NFL. But again these are my opinions on why I wouldn't take him at 11. Just like it was adrians opinion on why he wouldn't want Pearce at 11.

Love the energy though I gotta get back to work.

I'm saying he's lined up and down that DL. I'm not saying what that means for his sack totals.

I would assume they would use him a lot like we used Omenihu.

totally get you're opinion. If we're gonna use stats to determine if a player is good or not, gotta do it with every guy.

I'm not using stats to determine if that player is good or not. I'm using the stats to say that I wouldn't take him at 11.
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