DE - Who is #2 on the 49ers Draft Board & Why?

It's a tight race between these 3-5 guys - who do you think is the next Edge on the 49ers draft board after Abdul Carter?

I bet 2 of them are going to become 10-sack NFL players, and the other 3 don't get a 2nd contract from the team that drafts them. What do you think? My pick and my rankings below. Curious to know what WZ thinks!

1a) Mykel Williams - Probably my pick based on the JPJ concerns. Wish he tested and do put the onus on the 49ers to vet that his athleticism ceiling is truly there. But in the current era of mobile QB's, I think his all-around package is there even though it is hard to see on tape due to Georgia's scheme & rotation. He was asked to set the edge & contain a lot though, and he delivered there very consistently.

1b) James Pearce Jr - Taking out the off-the-field concerns (as it's really hard to separate what's reality right now), his athleticism + production + high quality of competition is too much to pass up and he'd be my pick. If any concerns being reported are true and the commitment isn't there though, you have to pass. He's so similar to Vic Beasley from an athletic build + production standpoint - it makes it scary to bet on him when you see the commitment concerns.

3) Mike Green - Man, given the concern of his size and competition - watching him toss around OSU's RT was incredible and showed he could play with the big boys. That said, Josh Simmons really dominated that game, and won most snaps against Green that I saw. His size is a bigger risk in my book than JPJ as he got washed out of plays. That said, his team was obviously out-matched which makes it a bit tough to isolate.

4) Jalon Walker - Wish he was more explosive, and a better athlete than he is. He's great, just not the Micah Parsons profile at this point in his career. I don't believe he can be that edge guy. Will he continue to become more explosive in an NFL weight room? I have a hard time betting on that, but he does get rave reviews as a person and leader.

5) Shemar Stewart - His production is ridiculously bad for his talent level. I don't think you can take him there.

I think Walker is explosive enough and you're right to talk about him as a person and a leader, son of a DC, I think he'll work his butt off whatever we ask him to do.

Green is out for me, once a domestic abuser, always one.

Pearce sounds bit dangerous heard some work ethic concerns.

I don't see it with Mykel, he's got the size but I don't see anything now that jumps out.

On my board Green if his off field issues are cleared up.
John Lynch's board Shemar Stewart cause they love high ceiling freak athlete prospects

My board it's JTT for us

On their board no doubt it's Stewart

Interesting, and I apologise I heard it was Domestic abuse for Green, but it was two sexual assault allegations. You don't like that there are two, but nothing has been proven yet. Remember Matt Araiza? That looked iron clad and ended up being BS. Looks like I have to go back to the tape.

Jalon Walker's knock is he doesn't play in one position enough to become "great" or specializes in one position. They could've put that same knock on Miach Parsons as well.I'am not saying Jalon is the next M. Parsons ,"But" he does play the same positions only that he seems to play the outside lb position more.. But he does show flashes of Parsons motor and instincts to diagnose and blow up plays constantly at either outside line (9 wide) or as a outside lb.And Jaylon seems like he plays the game like Miach P. as far as his (passion) for the game .And he has the same knack of blowing up plays in both positions ! .
His measurables are not that different compared to Miach Parsons coming out of the 2021 Draft.One thing that we know is that Shanahan and Lynch prefer players with positional flex which is one of his best strengths to any team. When you look at past games especially the Texas Georgia SEC Championship this year Georgia played well, Especially in Defense But Jalon played Like his customary High Motor type of Game ! and Shutdown Texas chances as they were trying to come back .Like the saying says "Big players play Big in big games" And Jalon showed that at Georgia.

Jaylon walker Miach Parsons (2021 Draft #"s)
Height: 6'1" 6-3"
Weight 243 245
Hand Size 101/4" 11"
Arm Length 32" 31-1/2"
Wind Span 79.88" 78.78"
40 Yd Speed 4.50 4.39
Production Score 71 83
Athleticism Score 84 76
Tackling 84 99
Pass Rush 92 98
Run Defense 68 100
Coverage 71 77
Overall Rating (NFL SCOUTING PROFILE)
Total Score 87.4/100 93/100

Jaylon is not as fast as M .Parsons but not many LB'ers have that speed coming out of college in the past few years as Miach but at 4.50 thats in the 94% Rate which is excellent for a (Edge Olb ) but Jaylon has a bigger wingspan. and plays at the same weight ,And has a higher Athletic Score 84 to Miach's 76,With a very close (Total score) as Miach.Why wouldn't SF want him to help Rebuild the Defense playing along Warner or Y G Matos or Bosa ,If SF drafts Jaylon its going to make teams double teaming Bosa think hard if they dont account for Jaylon.Can you imagine what Saleh can do with These mis matches !

Knowing what we know about the 49ers' draft system, Kocurek and the wide 9, there's a chance that Shemar Stewart is their EDGE1.

Originally posted by Wewillwin:
It's a tight race between these 3-5 guys - who do you think is the next Edge on the 49ers draft board after Abdul Carter?

I bet 2 of them are going to become 10-sack NFL players, and the other 3 don't get a 2nd contract from the team that drafts them. What do you think? My pick and my rankings below. Curious to know what WZ thinks!

1a) Mykel Williams - Probably my pick based on the JPJ concerns. Wish he tested and do put the onus on the 49ers to vet that his athleticism ceiling is truly there. But in the current era of mobile QB's, I think his all-around package is there even though it is hard to see on tape due to Georgia's scheme & rotation. He was asked to set the edge & contain a lot though, and he delivered there very consistently.

1b) James Pearce Jr - Taking out the off-the-field concerns (as it's really hard to separate what's reality right now), his athleticism + production + high quality of competition is too much to pass up and he'd be my pick. If any concerns being reported are true and the commitment isn't there though, you have to pass. He's so similar to Vic Beasley from an athletic build + production standpoint - it makes it scary to bet on him when you see the commitment concerns.

3) Mike Green - Man, given the concern of his size and competition - watching him toss around OSU's RT was incredible and showed he could play with the big boys. That said, Josh Simmons really dominated that game, and won most snaps against Green that I saw. His size is a bigger risk in my book than JPJ as he got washed out of plays. That said, his team was obviously out-matched which makes it a bit tough to isolate.

4) Jalon Walker - Wish he was more explosive, and a better athlete than he is. He's great, just not the Micah Parsons profile at this point in his career. I don't believe he can be that edge guy. Will he continue to become more explosive in an NFL weight room? I have a hard time betting on that, but he does get rave reviews as a person and leader.

5) Shemar Stewart - His production is ridiculously bad for his talent level. I don't think you can take him there.

I think it's this guy. That said I'd rather see them go DL (with a slight trade down) in R1 then DE/EDGE in R2 with Scourton, Princely, Tuimoloau, or Swinson

Originally posted by Heroism:
Knowing what we know about the 49ers' draft system, Kocurek and the wide 9, there's a chance that Shemar Stewart is their EDGE1.

Don't sleep on Princely Umanmielan. Love to get this guy in R2.

What jumps off the tape immediately is how Umanmielen's game elevated in Oxford's wide-9 alignments. The statistical jump wasn't just about scheme - his technical refinement showed up consistently, particularly in a three-game stretch where he logged multiple sacks in each contest. That run included a momentum-shifting performance against Georgia where he notched two solo sacks and forced a fumble, showing he could dominate against elite competition. His combination of length and explosiveness started translating more consistently, evidenced by his team-leading 14 quarterback hurries and 13.5 tackles for loss.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Knowing what we know about the 49ers' draft system, Kocurek and the wide 9, there's a chance that Shemar Stewart is their EDGE1.

Don't sleep on Princely Umanmielan. Love to get this guy in R2.

What jumps off the tape immediately is how Umanmielen's game elevated in Oxford's wide-9 alignments. The statistical jump wasn't just about scheme - his technical refinement showed up consistently, particularly in a three-game stretch where he logged multiple sacks in each contest. That run included a momentum-shifting performance against Georgia where he notched two solo sacks and forced a fumble, showing he could dominate against elite competition. His combination of length and explosiveness started translating more consistently, evidenced by his team-leading 14 quarterback hurries and 13.5 tackles for loss.

I liked him watching them, but that D-Line creates havoc and easy looks for him. I'm not sure how good he actually is, as he's rarely the focus of attention.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Knowing what we know about the 49ers' draft system, Kocurek and the wide 9, there's a chance that Shemar Stewart is their EDGE1.

I'm terrified of him, just can't get over it he just runs ahead and puts his inside shoulder into the tackle and then thinks he's going to magically get past him without a move or any deception. I haven't seen his measurements but he plays like he has T-Rex arms.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Knowing what we know about the 49ers' draft system, Kocurek and the wide 9, there's a chance that Shemar Stewart is their EDGE1.

Don't sleep on Princely Umanmielan. Love to get this guy in R2.

What jumps off the tape immediately is how Umanmielen's game elevated in Oxford's wide-9 alignments. The statistical jump wasn't just about scheme - his technical refinement showed up consistently, particularly in a three-game stretch where he logged multiple sacks in each contest. That run included a momentum-shifting performance against Georgia where he notched two solo sacks and forced a fumble, showing he could dominate against elite competition. His combination of length and explosiveness started translating more consistently, evidenced by his team-leading 14 quarterback hurries and 13.5 tackles for loss.

I liked him watching them, but that D-Line creates havoc and easy looks for him. I'm not sure how good he actually is, as he's rarely the focus of attention.

Well that being said, he's a R2 prospect. If SF drafts Nolan, Grant, or Harmon in R1, then Princely in R2, between Bosa and a new DT or two, he will still not be the focus of attention.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Knowing what we know about the 49ers' draft system, Kocurek and the wide 9, there's a chance that Shemar Stewart is their EDGE1.

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Don't sleep on Princely Umanmielan. Love to get this guy in R2.

What jumps off the tape immediately is how Umanmielen's game elevated in Oxford's wide-9 alignments. The statistical jump wasn't just about scheme - his technical refinement showed up consistently, particularly in a three-game stretch where he logged multiple sacks in each contest. That run included a momentum-shifting performance against Georgia where he notched two solo sacks and forced a fumble, showing he could dominate against elite competition. His combination of length and explosiveness started translating more consistently, evidenced by his team-leading 14 quarterback hurries and 13.5 tackles for loss.

I liked him watching them, but that D-Line creates havoc and easy looks for him. I'm not sure how good he actually is, as he's rarely the focus of attention.

Well that being said, he's a R2 prospect. If SF drafts Nolan, Grant, or Harmon in R1, then Princely in R2, between Bosa and a new DT or two, he will still not be the focus of attention.

That's true, but the 1v1's he gets will be harder. I don't dislike him, think I have Swinson higher, not sure he's as good of an athlete though.

I think it's Mykell Williams and then Stewart. Both are trait players and neither had great production although at least with Williams you can see glimpses. The Texas A&M dline coach needs to be investigated. Dude had 3 NFL quality players (4 if you count Walter Nolen) and didn't get sack production from any.

Mike Green would be #1 if it weren't for his off field issues. I like Pearce but apparently he has off field issues too and he is starting to fall in a lot of mock drafts.

I think they have Mykell Williams high on their draft boards.