Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by Ninerfan775:
Originally posted by TheRatMan13:
Hopefully, the NFL sees what a lockout did to baseball and hockey. Hockey already struggled, and now they have less viewers than before. Baseball is still not as popular as it was before their strike. In fact, it took the steroid era to even bring back any interest.
Yeah this is the day and age of capitalism, greed, and being as cutthroat as possible. Just remember people in the end were the ones that are f***ed.
Hey go piss on capitalism somewhere else. It's because of capitalism that our country has dominated the world for so long. Have pride in America and her entrepreneurship, because she has taken care of those corrupt keynesian economies for decades/
Weird.
Let me see now, unbridled capitalism polluted the rivers, put crap in the food, paid starvation wages and made workers work in dangerous conditions. when they asked for fair treatment they were sacked, when they tried to stand together for justice unbridled capitalism called in the army to kill them and beat them up, and force them back to work. It puts money and power in the hands of the very few and destroys the lives of those it feeds on. Capitalism is a powerful force, but it has to be controlled and tempered. Like those Keynesian economies you despise have done.
And now your entrepreneurs are exporting your jobs and outsourcing your services. Happy?
When China overtakes the American economy, how will that be?
And, of course, if there is a lockout, well, that will merely be capitalism in action. So you wont mind, then?
Thats an excellent point, they definitely served a important role towards worker/owner relations. But before you anoint them, you might want to do some research on the things they did to minorities. Might want to research their stance against African Americans, Chinese, Hispanics, and other immigrants. You might want to research some of their tactics and deem if they were appropriate. You might want to research their affiliations with different clans back then.
After that we can fast forward to the modern day, you know where there generally isn't that same time of structure set up. Oh by the way, you might want to actually research the political affiliations of some of those greedy monsters :p.
Finally, in today's world we can sometimes see the massive flip that the two powers now have. You want to talk about how good union products are? Look at our school system to start. Who here had to buy things for their kids school that they have never had to before. How much are school lunches inflating, and how good is the quality of the schools now and where do we rank in the world... I believe 25th for science or math, somebody please name 25 countries off the top of their head. Now who knows that the fiscal 09 budget for school was 40bil and the fiscal10 budget was 80bil and how much of that money do u think is funneling right back towards political actions committee's. They are cutting field trips and programs and yet their budget doubled?
Look both have they're importance, but I think you could say a lot of unions have become to powerful and have overly effective lobbyist(way to snuggly with the government) which is hurting our country and causing the employee cost to rise to such a level that its no longer financially reasonable to keep the jobs and stay in business. Look there are many billion dollar industries that have filed bankruptcy.
I will agree that this argument falls along ideological lines, one person has the philosophy that has created the greatest power in the history of the world and another person has the philosophy that has repeatedly failed throughout history and lead to the ultimate failure of countries
I josh. I will concede that you wholly believe your views and I have mine and that neither will budge, therefor I leave this argument.
