2nd Best NFL QB of All-Time?

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Personally, I think that people put far too much weight on whether or not someone won big games. There are sooooooooo many factors that go into winning a football game, that no one person can do it by themselves, or come even close to doing it by themselves, IMO.

So true. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have as many Super Bowl rings as Steve Young and more than Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly ets,etc

Kansas City Joe Montana is the 2nd best. Niner Joe Montana is the first.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Kansas City Joe Montana is the 2nd best. Niner Joe Montana is the first.

I saw a coworker wear a KC Montana jersey...it made me sick

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Personally, I think that people put far too much weight on whether or not someone won big games. There are sooooooooo many factors that go into winning a football game, that no one person can do it by themselves, or come even close to doing it by themselves, IMO.

So true. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have as many Super Bowl rings as Steve Young and more than Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly ets,etc

I would agree with that assumption, because Kelley was a hell of a Qb, as was
Fouts.

But....I guess we are blessed in having seen Montana at his finest rallying the team from behind to win. I so clearly remember my wife saying it was all over and we
couldn't win all of them. I politely said BS to that, and then Montana took over.

I guess it does jade your view on things.

Originally posted by GoNiners:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Kansas City Joe Montana is the 2nd best. Niner Joe Montana is the first.

I saw a coworker wear a KC Montana jersey...it made me sick

We missed out on a SB because of that trade.

Originally posted by nvninerfan1:

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Personally, I think that people put far too much weight on whether or not someone won big games. There are sooooooooo many factors that go into winning a football game, that no one person can do it by themselves, or come even close to doing it by themselves, IMO.

So true. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have as many Super Bowl rings as Steve Young and more than Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly ets,etc

I would agree with that assumption, because Kelley was a hell of a Qb, as was
Fouts.

But....I guess we are blessed in having seen Montana at his finest rallying the team from behind to win. I so clearly remember my wife saying it was all over and we
couldn't win all of them. I politely said BS to that, and then Montana took over.

I guess it does jade your view on things.

Of course, but he had a tremendous group of players around him that helped him accomplish that.

Take the second SB against Cincinnati as an example. The score was 3-3 at halftime and our offense wasn't exactly lighting it up, but our defense kept us in the game against Esiason (who tore up the league won the MVP that year), an O-Line with Anthony Munoz & Max Montoya, and a backfield of Brooks/Woods. If Marino leads his team to 3 points in the first half against that Bengals team, he's probably looking at a two TD deficit.

Then, when it was time for Montana to lead the comeback, he had Rice (GOAT), John Taylor (an INCREDIBLE receiver who would have been a #1 almost anywhere else), Roger Craig (arguably the greatest receiver out of the backfield ever), Tom Rathman (a very good receiving FB), and an excellent O-Line with Barton, Sapolu, etc. He had a multitude of weapons that, to his credit, he utilized very well. But I think it's notable to recognize the weapons that he had at his disposal. Not all QBs have that, and they shouldn't be punished for things that they didn't have control over.

[ Edited by LA9erFan on Sep 2, 2009 at 07:05:34 ]