Vick Eligible to play starting week 3

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by dman:
Ill be rooting for him ... what he did was f***ed up but he paid the price and served his time.

Its also f***ed up to root for someone to fail so Im not going to.

That's pretty much how I feel too. I'm not rooting for him on the field per se, but I hope he gets his life turned around, because the dogfighting was just one part of a pretty f**ked up life he was living. Hopefully he can get all that behind him and become a positive member of society.

There's something to be said for forgiveness and grace.

Same here, I guess I feel like him succeeding on the field will help turn his life around though.

I just hope he learned his lesson and works hard to succeed in his 2nd shot at the NFL.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mac707g:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mac707g:

Originally posted by susweel:
Good for him.

Yea, and let's also give a convicted animal abuser/killer a standing ovation when he comes in to play! Totally!

L.I.G. it Dude! seriously!

Why? Because some people have no class? I'm not saying the guy shouldn't be in the league or shouldn't get to play. I just think it's completely classless to applaud the guy, give him an ovation when he enters the game or chant his name. What has he done to deserve that type of treatment? Nothing, in fact, he's done a lot of things that would PRECLUDE that type of reaction.

Because they are clapping for him and his football skills. they are not clapping for what he did to those animals. What he did was not football related. Thus when it comes to him playing football he should be cheered by his believers/followers.


No if he was to enter a dog show and he got a standing ovation. Then feel free to hate on the audience!

Really? They're clapping for him and his football skills? When you cheer for someone you are cheering for THEM. A lot of who someone is is made up of what someone is done and while I AGREE that he should be allowed back into the game and has served his time, that doesn't mean that I'm going to CHEER for him.

By your ridiculous logic if a murderer played for your team you'd cheer for him as well since I guess in your head you can cheer for "him and his football skills" and conveniently forget everything wrong they've done....

Again, I'm all for forgiveness and second chances but I draw the line at cheering for someone who has done such reprehensible things.

come on Krizay, his talent as a football player, Vick SUCKS as a QB, he cant throw all he can do is run the ball, he is a joke of a QB IMO.

Originally posted by mac707g:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mac707g:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mac707g:

Originally posted by susweel:
Good for him.

Yea, and let's also give a convicted animal abuser/killer a standing ovation when he comes in to play! Totally!

L.I.G. it Dude! seriously!

Why? Because some people have no class? I'm not saying the guy shouldn't be in the league or shouldn't get to play. I just think it's completely classless to applaud the guy, give him an ovation when he enters the game or chant his name. What has he done to deserve that type of treatment? Nothing, in fact, he's done a lot of things that would PRECLUDE that type of reaction.

Because they are clapping for him and his football skills. they are not clapping for what he did to those animals. What he did was not football related. Thus when it comes to him playing football he should be cheered by his believers/followers.


No if he was to enter a dog show and he got a standing ovation. Then feel free to hate on the audience!

Really? They're clapping for him and his football skills? When you cheer for someone you are cheering for THEM. A lot of who someone is is made up of what someone is done and while I AGREE that he should be allowed back into the game and has served his time, that doesn't mean that I'm going to CHEER for him.

By your ridiculous logic if a murderer played for your team you'd cheer for him as well since I guess in your head you can cheer for "him and his football skills" and conveniently forget everything wrong they've done....

Again, I'm all for forgiveness and second chances but I draw the line at cheering for someone who has done such reprehensible things.

Ray Lewis still gets cheered. Leonard Little got cheered.

If YOU don't want to cheer for him. That is YOUR right. If Philly Fans or Football fans do want to cheer for him. That is their right.

So if you have a relative that was drinking and driving. Then killed an innocent bystander. You'd write your relative off completely?


If you agree that Vick should've been allowed back in the NFL. Then you are also saying that YOU'RE ok with him being a role model for kids. Whether athletes like it or not. That's what they are. Good enough to be a role model but not good enough to be cheered?

You obviously don't like what he did. that's fine. But as you said he paid his dues. So L.I.G. it and let the man live in piece.

[ Edited by krizay on Sep 3, 2009 at 16:10:50 ]

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
come on Krizay, his talent as a football player, Vick SUCKS as a QB, he cant throw all he can do is run the ball, he is a joke of a QB IMO.

While I agree he's not a great passer. I also may have used the wrong phrase to get my point across. But he still has skills.

All i'm saying is. They are cheering Mike Vick the football player. Not Mike Vick the felon.

Originally posted by krizay:

All i'm saying is. They are cheering Mike Vick the football player. Not Mike Vick the felon.

Mike Vick the felon and Mike Vick the football player are the SAME PERSON. You can't separate one from the other.

Clearly Eagle fans have every right to cheer for "their guy," but then I have every right to call them classless morons don't I?

And I fully realize Lewis and Little were cheered when they came back (just as Stallworth probably will be) and that is even worse than Vick's situation IMHO. As for being a role model, I leave that up to the parents to educate their children that even though he may be back in football that he isn't an example of how to live your life.

Edit: as for your drunk driving scenario. While I wouldn't right off a relative that did that I certainly wouldn't cheer for them when they returned to work...again, what would they have done to deserve praise? Serve their sentence? Sorry, not enough.

When he actually contributes to the team and is a good citizen for a while then by all means, cheer your ass off. But cheering because he's walking onto the field? Even the regular players don't get that treatment, why should a recently released convict?

[ Edited by mac707g on Sep 3, 2009 at 16:20:13 ]

all he's sorry about is that he got caught and lost almost all his fortune

Watching Vick the past few weeks, I forgot how awesome he is.

Originally posted by mac707g:
Clearly Eagle fans have every right to cheer for "their guy," but then I have every right to call them classless morons don't I?

Sure you do, doesn't mean you're right.

Mike Vick scored a TD!!!!! YES Vick you're the man it's good to have you back in the NFL I miss seeing his amazing runs and playmaking ability. Here's to you Mike Vick

some of you guys should let it go. people are going to root for him rather you agree with it or not. I for one hope Vick succeeds and gets his life back together.

Originally posted by mac707g:

Originally posted by krizay:

All i'm saying is. They are cheering Mike Vick the football player. Not Mike Vick the felon.

Mike Vick the felon and Mike Vick the football player are the SAME PERSON. You can't separate one from the other.

Clearly Eagle fans have every right to cheer for "their guy," but then I have every right to call them classless morons don't I?

And I fully realize Lewis and Little were cheered when they came back (just as Stallworth probably will be) and that is even worse than Vick's situation IMHO. As for being a role model, I leave that up to the parents to educate their children that even though he may be back in football that he isn't an example of how to live your life.

Edit: as for your drunk driving scenario. While I wouldn't right off a relative that did that I certainly wouldn't cheer for them when they returned to work...again, what would they have done to deserve praise? Serve their sentence? Sorry, not enough.

When he actually contributes to the team and is a good citizen for a while then by all means, cheer your ass off. But cheering because he's walking onto the field? Even the regular players don't get that treatment, why should a recently released convict?

Thank you for the Rules of Cheering

He'll debut against Kansas City in Phili. Not a bad way to start out.

"Vick put on IR by Week 4."

*crosses fingers*

Even better, I hope it's a career ending injury, too.

Originally posted by mac707g:


Even the regular players don't get that treatment, why should a recently released convict?

Because the regular players aren't putting on THEIR TEAM'S uniform for the 1st time.