I was reading Bill Simmons a few seconds ago. The only comments he had for the sea hawks vs. niners game was that he wishes the NFC west would go away. The NFC West has represented the NFC in the championship game more than any other conference. Maybe Bill needs to wish a little harder because the NFC West has as good as a chance as anybody this year to represent the NFC in the super bowl again.
I simply took the last ten years of who has represented the NFC in the super bowl.
Here is the breakdown:
West - 4
East - 3
South - 2
North - 1
Maybe 10 years ago when the rams won the super bowl they were favored by the season's end to be there. But every other year the NFC west is usually the under dog that seems to end up in the super bowl. Maybe Bill Simmons does not realize that the lakers do not play football for the NFC west? A quick shot out to the NFC south and east because they are tied with four losses a piece for most losses in the NFC championship game over the last ten years. The North has only two losses.
Here is the breakdown of losing the NFC championship game.
West - 0
East - 4
South - 4
North - 2
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NFC West was best in NFC the last 10 years
Sep 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM
- PacTiger
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Sep 18, 2009 at 11:20 AM
- 49erfeeeever808
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so you're saying it's the niners turn to go to the superbowl this year?
Sep 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM
- XAnGeLicDiAbLoX
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Yeah i hate that whole "weak west" talk
Sep 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM
- 49erfeeeever808
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Originally posted by XAnGeLicDiAbLoX:
Yeah i hate that whole "weak west" talk
no kidding.....
i guess the AFC West is so terrible it makes us look bad. i mean c'mon.... how bad does a division have to be if the Raiders have a decent shot at winning the division?
Sep 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM
- PacTiger
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Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
so you're saying it's the niners turn to go to the superbowl this year?
The niners have to go to the super bowl in order to bring order, balance and justice back into the world. That and the fact that the niners are the only team in the NFC west that has not represented the West in the super bowl during the last ten years.
I can add that the west is the only conference that has three different teams represent the NFC in the super bowl over the last ten years. This would support that the NFC West has been the best division in the NFC over the last ten years.
[ Edited by fister30 on Sep 18, 2009 at 11:43 AM ]
Sep 18, 2009 at 12:02 PM
- TX9R
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I've grown to like Simmons. His description of Cutler is what IO've always thought, but didn't know how to express properly
"Jay Cutler always seems "like a pissed-off trust-fund kid who can't believe the valet just scratched his Escalade Hybrid."
"Jay Cutler always seems "like a pissed-off trust-fund kid who can't believe the valet just scratched his Escalade Hybrid."
Sep 18, 2009 at 4:27 PM
- fzrdave
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It just proves that the East Coast bias is a crock.
Sep 18, 2009 at 9:36 PM
- scopur49er
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Guys consider this:
Every division plays a total of 12 interdivision games each season and ends up with a 12-12 record within the division because one team always wins the game and one loses the game (barring ties, this is just common sense).
If you take out all interdivision games, here is a breakdown of division win/loss records in games OUTSIDE of their division last year...
2008
NFC South 28-12
NFC East 26-13-1
AFC East 26-14
AFC South 26-14
AFC North 19-20-1
NFC North 13-27
AFC West 11-29
NFC West 10-30
...basically the NFC West teams lost 3 out of 4 non-division games.
If you do the same math for the previous few years, you'll start to see a trend.
In 2007 the NFC West was tied for the worst combined record against non-division teams (14-26).
So I hate to be the party pooper but there is a legitimate reason why everyone thinks the NFC West sucks and quite frankly, I believe it.
Every division plays a total of 12 interdivision games each season and ends up with a 12-12 record within the division because one team always wins the game and one loses the game (barring ties, this is just common sense).
If you take out all interdivision games, here is a breakdown of division win/loss records in games OUTSIDE of their division last year...
2008
NFC South 28-12
NFC East 26-13-1
AFC East 26-14
AFC South 26-14
AFC North 19-20-1
NFC North 13-27
AFC West 11-29
NFC West 10-30
...basically the NFC West teams lost 3 out of 4 non-division games.
If you do the same math for the previous few years, you'll start to see a trend.
In 2007 the NFC West was tied for the worst combined record against non-division teams (14-26).
So I hate to be the party pooper but there is a legitimate reason why everyone thinks the NFC West sucks and quite frankly, I believe it.
Sep 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM
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Originally posted by scopur49er:
Guys consider this:
Every division plays a total of 12 interdivision games each season and ends up with a 12-12 record within the division because one team always wins the game and one loses the game (barring ties, this is just common sense).
If you take out all interdivision games, here is a breakdown of division win/loss records in games OUTSIDE of their division last year...
2008
NFC South 28-12
NFC East 26-13-1
AFC East 26-14
AFC South 26-14
AFC North 19-20-1
NFC North 13-27
AFC West 11-29
NFC West 10-30
...basically the NFC West teams lost 3 out of 4 non-division games.
If you do the same math for the previous few years, you'll start to see a trend.
In 2007 the NFC West was tied for the worst combined record against non-division teams (14-26).
So I hate to be the party pooper but there is a legitimate reason why everyone thinks the NFC West sucks and quite frankly, I believe it.
No one cares about regular season. When was the last time the team with the most wins won the Super Bowl?
Sep 19, 2009 at 2:48 PM
- hondakillerzx
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Originally posted by Ether:Originally posted by scopur49er:
Guys consider this:
Every division plays a total of 12 interdivision games each season and ends up with a 12-12 record within the division because one team always wins the game and one loses the game (barring ties, this is just common sense).
If you take out all interdivision games, here is a breakdown of division win/loss records in games OUTSIDE of their division last year...
2008
NFC South 28-12
NFC East 26-13-1
AFC East 26-14
AFC South 26-14
AFC North 19-20-1
NFC North 13-27
AFC West 11-29
NFC West 10-30
...basically the NFC West teams lost 3 out of 4 non-division games.
If you do the same math for the previous few years, you'll start to see a trend.
In 2007 the NFC West was tied for the worst combined record against non-division teams (14-26).
So I hate to be the party pooper but there is a legitimate reason why everyone thinks the NFC West sucks and quite frankly, I believe it.
No one cares about regular season. When was the last time the team with the most wins won the Super Bowl?
1984 49ers with a 15-1 record
Sep 19, 2009 at 10:13 PM
- HessianDud
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Originally posted by Ether:Originally posted by scopur49er:
Guys consider this:
Every division plays a total of 12 interdivision games each season and ends up with a 12-12 record within the division because one team always wins the game and one loses the game (barring ties, this is just common sense).
If you take out all interdivision games, here is a breakdown of division win/loss records in games OUTSIDE of their division last year...
2008
NFC South 28-12
NFC East 26-13-1
AFC East 26-14
AFC South 26-14
AFC North 19-20-1
NFC North 13-27
AFC West 11-29
NFC West 10-30
...basically the NFC West teams lost 3 out of 4 non-division games.
If you do the same math for the previous few years, you'll start to see a trend.
In 2007 the NFC West was tied for the worst combined record against non-division teams (14-26).
So I hate to be the party pooper but there is a legitimate reason why everyone thinks the NFC West sucks and quite frankly, I believe it.
No one cares about regular season. When was the last time the team with the most wins won the Super Bowl?
When was the last time an NFC WEST team won the Super Bowl?
1999.
Scopur is right. The NFC WEST has generally stunk against the rest of the league. Two of those 4 west teams that made the SB were those dominant Rams teams, who went 1-1 in SB games. The Seahawks had a great season and maybe should have even won the Super Bowl, but they didn't. The Cardinals were at best an average team all last year and got hot.
its interesting that the NFC West has represented the NFC more than any other division over the last ten years, but that
does not speak to the quality of the division as a whole.
Sep 20, 2009 at 12:11 PM
- darkknight49
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Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:Originally posted by XAnGeLicDiAbLoX:
Yeah i hate that whole "weak west" talk
no kidding.....
i guess the AFC West is so terrible it makes us look bad. i mean c'mon.... how bad does a division have to be if the Raiders have a decent shot at winning the division?
damn the raiders...their suckage bleeds through conferences...
[ Edited by darkknight49 on Sep 20, 2009 at 12:11 PM ]
Sep 20, 2009 at 7:49 PM
- Shifty
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NFC West is definitely better than what people give it credit for.