OFFICIAL Blaine Gabbert Thread

Originally posted by fakers23:
To those that do like Gabbert.. Just remeber 1 name. McNabb.. He was hated by Philly when picked also.. Just saying...

[ Edited by comeatmebrah on Apr 28, 2011 at 06:59:57 ]

I don't even understand why we are even debating a guy who's not even a Niner yet.

But it does add to one perspective that I always have in regards to a draft:

"As a fan, you should never FALL IN LOVE or HATE any prospect, because your team might/might not draft them." You'll spend the rest of the offseason trying to justify the draft pick or trying to figure out why your team passed on your favorite prospect."

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
how about no

Why not?

because taking gabbert, who seems just like the guy the webzone loves to hate while there is an elite defensive guy on the board would be dumb. there are other qbs i like better than gabbert in this draft. id much rather have dalton or ponder. ive looked up stanzi too and he looks like he has it all. defense first round unless its AJ green somehow and QB in the 2nd or late 1st from a trade

There aren't other QB's with...

~ The size.
~ Strength.
~ Quick release.
~ Accuracy.
~ Arm Strength.

Ponder and Dalton have nowhere near the arm. Molded by Harbaugh this guy could become special. This isn't NoWin or SingleBrainCell you know. A guy with the tools in combination with a QB GURU is a good combination. There are no D guarantees either. Those guys haven't taken one down in the NFL yet. You have no idea what they will be. Some will be busts.

SD is already in form!!! Let's get this draft rolling!!!

I think I am just gonna leave for now cause the stupidity of this thread is actually making me angry(its sad, I know, I need a life). Me disliking Blaine has nothing to do with Alex and everything to do with Blaine's pocket awareness. Its absolutely terrible and will be hard to correct because alot of it has to do with his natural instincts. And I really don't care about McNabb getting booed/hated when drafted cause that will zero impact on Gabbert's career. Alot of players are booed/hated...Ted Ginn Jr. was in Miami lol.

Originally posted by comeatmebrah:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Harbaugh can make a pro bowler out of many QBs.

No need to invest 7th overall and millions.

Harbaugh has been on point with grading QBs in later rounds to actually be better.

Those guys don't exist every year and the guy who you invest millions into is going to have a higher upside than the mid round find almost every time. The success rate of the 1st round QB is much higher than that of the mid round QB and we don't know if Harbaugh can make a PB'er out of many QB's....he hasn't made one into a PB'er so we shouldn't crown his ass just yet (and if you don't believe me ask Dennis Green). We have a one year example of Harbaugh grading QB's and we only know of but a few QB grades from that class so it's hard to tell how good he truly is, but all signs point to him being good.

Do you view Gabbert as a true 1st round talent? Or do you think he is just the beneficiary of a weak draft class with lots of teams needing QB's? I agree with everything you said there btw. Not really sure why I'm asking you but I haven't gone to sleep so w.e.

This.

If Harbaugh takes him, I support Blaine. But I don't see Harbaugh taking this guy who put up mediocre stats in college even with a spread offense.

Originally posted by comeatmebrah:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Harbaugh can make a pro bowler out of many QBs.

No need to invest 7th overall and millions.

Harbaugh has been on point with grading QBs in later rounds to actually be better.

Those guys don't exist every year and the guy who you invest millions into is going to have a higher upside than the mid round find almost every time. The success rate of the 1st round QB is much higher than that of the mid round QB and we don't know if Harbaugh can make a PB'er out of many QB's....he hasn't made one into a PB'er so we shouldn't crown his ass just yet (and if you don't believe me ask Dennis Green). We have a one year example of Harbaugh grading QB's and we only know of but a few QB grades from that class so it's hard to tell how good he truly is, but all signs point to him being good.

Do you view Gabbert as a true 1st round talent? Or do you think he is just the beneficiary of a weak draft class with lots of teams needing QB's? I agree with everything you said there btw. Not really sure why I'm asking you but I haven't gone to sleep so w.e.

Yes. I think in a stronger class he wouldn't be a top 10 pick...he'd likely fit in the 10-20 range.

Gabbert's 1st and 2nd year stats at Mizzou are actually very comparable and similar to those of Big Ben in his first 2 years starting at Miami. There games are different but statistically they are not that different, and Big Ben is also walking proof of an NFL QB who doesn't post big time numbers for a QB year in year out, however I think Gabbert is capable of posting better numbers with a better supporting cast (his cast was better in 09 and so were his TD numbers and this year he improved his completion %).

Another QB who didn't post eye popping numbers in college, Josh Freeman. So the whole 16 TD thing is overblown as is the "he came from a spread offense" because so did Sam Bradford & Tim Tebow as will many more QB's in the coming years. We can't get cold feet on taking a 1st round QB who isn't named Andrew Luck or has the hype and buzz that Luck has or on taking a 1st round QB because he played in a spread offense because many more QB's will be coming to the pro's from a spread...

In Harbaugh I trust! If we take Gabbert at #7, then Harbaugh likes him. If Harbaugh likes him, I like him!

I have a feeling if Gabbert is there at #7 with Peterson and Miller gone, we may end up trading back.

Someone - Vikings, Skins, Titans or ? will jump up to # 2 and trade with Denver.

Totally agree + he'll be gone by then. Someone will trade up to get him.

Originally posted by fakers23:

Originally posted by modninerfan:
its 12:30 in the morning and its already blowin up with silly threads

lmao...true! true!

were all nervous


and yes i agree with you OP

I'm Harbaugh and I'm a QB maker, I take the consensus poplulist pick? No. I take raw material. Plus taking any QB at #7 will put greater pressure for him to succeed and start earlier. If Gabbert is available at 7 and we pick him. I'm real good with that because Harbaugh likes him. If he passes I real good with that because he sees something the draftniks do not.

Matt Barrows just came up with his mock. I think his analysis on the Niners is second to none.

Originally posted by SJniner7:
In Harbaugh I trust! If we take Gabbert at #7, then Harbaugh likes him. If Harbaugh likes him, I like him!

I have a feeling if Gabbert is there at #7 with Peterson and Miller gone, we may end up trading back.

Like he said.

Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
Id rather take: Peterson, Prince or Quinn.. Heck even Aj Green if Availible.

Why draft a quarterback number 7 overall, who will not be ready to start until 1-2yrs!? We still would have to aquire a qb. If I was GM and we had the 7th pick, id draft a player with instant impact to win a division that is very winnable. Peterson may go number 5 to Arizona.... just alone with that Pick Arizona will win 1-2 more games. We need that kind of impact, can Gabbert get us to 8 wins this season? NOPE.

If Gabbert is there at 7: Id either get Quinn if there or trade back with Washington who will want to get Gabbert. Than at pick number 10 trade back with the Eagles for pick number 23 and an extra 2nd round pick(or draft Prince at 10). At 23 we take Jimmy Smith.. With our 2 2nd round picks we take Brooks Reed and Coln Kaepernick(or best qb availible)

So you should never draft a QB top 10 if he has to sit a year ?

Did you know there is no guarantee with any player you take that he will impact from day 1 ?

How do we really know Gabbert won't be able to start this year or help us win 8 games ? Did anyone think Matt Ryan would lead Atlanta to 11 wins as a rookie ?

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by comeatmebrah:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Harbaugh can make a pro bowler out of many QBs.

No need to invest 7th overall and millions.

Harbaugh has been on point with grading QBs in later rounds to actually be better.

Those guys don't exist every year and the guy who you invest millions into is going to have a higher upside than the mid round find almost every time. The success rate of the 1st round QB is much higher than that of the mid round QB and we don't know if Harbaugh can make a PB'er out of many QB's....he hasn't made one into a PB'er so we shouldn't crown his ass just yet (and if you don't believe me ask Dennis Green). We have a one year example of Harbaugh grading QB's and we only know of but a few QB grades from that class so it's hard to tell how good he truly is, but all signs point to him being good.

Do you view Gabbert as a true 1st round talent? Or do you think he is just the beneficiary of a weak draft class with lots of teams needing QB's? I agree with everything you said there btw. Not really sure why I'm asking you but I haven't gone to sleep so w.e.

Yes. I think in a stronger class he wouldn't be a top 10 pick...he'd likely fit in the 10-20 range.

Gabbert's 1st and 2nd year stats at Mizzou are actually very comparable and similar to those of Big Ben in his first 2 years starting at Miami. There games are different but statistically they are not that different, and Big Ben is also walking proof of an NFL QB who doesn't post big time numbers for a QB year in year out, however I think Gabbert is capable of posting better numbers with a better supporting cast (his cast was better in 09 and so were his TD numbers and this year he improved his completion %).

Another QB who didn't post eye popping numbers in college, Josh Freeman. So the whole 16 TD thing is overblown as is the "he came from a spread offense" because so did Sam Bradford & Tim Tebow as will many more QB's in the coming years. We can't get cold feet on taking a 1st round QB who isn't named Andrew Luck or has the hype and buzz that Luck has or on taking a 1st round QB because he played in a spread offense because many more QB's will be coming to the pro's from a spread...

Purely on statistics, you're looking at a 3-year college starter in Ben versus a 2-year started in Gabbert. The former progressed and threw 15 more TDs for 1200 more yards and 1 less pick moving from his sophomore year to junior year, whereas the latter REGRESSED and threw 8 less TDs for about 500 less yards. There simply is no comparison between the two, and if someone would like to say the numbers are taken out of context, there was absolutely no context provided for the original point that the two are similar just because of their first two years.

Besides, as Tuna and Baalke said, you have to look at the film and the games, not just stats.

Furthermore, you're comparing Blaine Gabbert to a QB who has been in 3 superbowls. We could play the statistics game, and I could find other QBs with mediocre stats who can't hold a candle to Ben's greatness.

Although I'm neither an expert on either of their college careers, I do know that GMs and scouts put a lot of stock into players who had longer college careers and consistently showed improvement. Gabbert has too many question marks for someone who had only two starting years and a year of regression / mediocrity (comparing his final year of 16 TDs / 8 int 3100 yards to Ben's of 37 TDs / 10 int 4500 yards).